For those of you that thinks our QB sucked today...

[jpdex12]

TE

C/ATT	YDS	AVG	TD	INT
T. Edwards	13/33	124	3.8	0	0

Anderson

	C/ATT	YDS	AVG	TD	INT
D. Anderson	9/24	137	5.7	0	0

Get real! Do you think that Browns fans are calling for a new OC or a new QB because of these stats?

Two field goals and a safety from the 8th best offense in the league averaging 27.7 points per game on a day of 30mph winds 20 degree temps and snow. Go find something else more intelligent to ***** about.

[OpIv37]

Re: For those of you that thinks our QB sucked today...

sorry but "someone else on another team is just as bad!" is NOT a legitimate excuse for sucking. Trent was one of many players who played poorly today- just accept it and move on.

And as far as calling for a new OC, it goes way beyond this game. Fairchild has been pulling this garbage since he came here.

[Philagape]

Re: For those of you that thinks our QB sucked today...

Tom Brady 14-27 140 0 1

[LtBillsFan66]

Re: For those of you that thinks our QB sucked today...

The weather sucked today across the board.

[LtBillsFan66]

Re: For those of you that thinks our QB sucked today...

sorry but "someone else on another team is just as bad!" is NOT a legitimate excuse for sucking. Trent was one of many players who played poorly today- just accept it and move on.

It puts things in perspective.

[jpdex12]

Re: For those of you that thinks our QB sucked today...

sorry but "someone else on another team is just as bad!" is NOT a legitimate excuse for sucking. Trent was one of many players who played poorly today- just accept it and move on.

And as far as calling for a new OC, it goes way beyond this game. Fairchild has been pulling this garbage since he came here.

How about the weather being a factor . No one lit it up today except Lewis but the weather was a major factor. Anderson is just as bad? No one has thrown as many TD's for the Browns sinse Kosar in their hayday. Why don't you quit with the poor statements?

Edited -- RS36

[jpdex12]

Re: For those of you that thinks our QB sucked today...

Tom Brady 14-27 140 0 1

According to Op Brady sucks then.

[Billzz]

Re: For those of you that thinks our QB sucked today...

sorry but "someone else on another team is just as bad!" is NOT a legitimate excuse for sucking. Trent was one of many players who played poorly today- just accept it and move on.

And as far as calling for a new OC, it goes way beyond this game. Fairchild has been pulling this garbage since he came here.

Where did that go, ohhhhhhhhhh there it is

[Crisis]

Re: For those of you that thinks our QB sucked today...

the only people trying to spin it are the losman fanboy(s) who didn't post at all during our winning streak with edwards.

[G. Host]

Re: For those of you that thinks our QB sucked today...

That horse is so dead it should either be ground up for dog food / glue or be burned before it becomes a health hazard.

[poreef]

Re: For those of you that thinks our QB sucked today...

Numbers can sometimes conceal the truth. 60 of those yards came on the last drive where Trent went 5 for 12. Three passes for 15 or more yards.

Prior to that drive Trent was 8 for 21 with 60 yards where as Anderson was 9/24 with 137. So with roughly same attempts and completions twice the yardage.

That was the difference in the game. Repeated completions for about 10 yards opened up the field for Jamal Lewis so he could continue performing well into the 4th quarter. I remember several 1st downs gained on 1st down passing (GASP!).

We didn't have those kind of completions so eventually they started stuffing Lynch. He ended up with 82 yards on 21 carries, but those came with one 29 yard dash and another 15 yarder. So ignoring a couple broken plays his average was more like 2-3 yards per carry.

Compare that to 163 yards by Lewis with 87 of those yards on carries of less than 10 yards and many more broken plays.

Ignoring the numbers my eyes told me the Browns packed the box pretty much every play from scrimmage. We only tested their man coverage a couple times.

So, Edwards didn't play well but the play calling was atrocious too. Welcome to Colorado, Mr. Fairchild. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

Edwards main problem seemed to be adjusting to timing and touch in the snow. He seemed to be rifling passes to points where receivers might be on turf in the fall. So passes sailed on by and when they didn't there were a lot of drops. Some of those drops were because of lack of receiving talent (I'm looking at you Gaines) and some were a combination of cold and a rifled pass just a hair off the mark.

At some point this season I finally lost my hope for Losman because it became clear that he had problems beyond play calling that didn't often try to go more than 20 yards and didn't encourage scrambling/bootlegs/etc.

I'm nowhere near that point with Edwards. His problems in the snow seemed like timing problems and hopefully time will solve them.

If we're not going to make the playoffs I prefer an outcome that highlights deficiencies and this certainly was one.

I blame bad play-calling by experienced staff and bad play due to rookie inexperience.

Box score
Drive Summary

TE

C/ATT	YDS	AVG	TD	INT
T. Edwards	13/33	124	3.8	0	0

Anderson

	C/ATT	YDS	AVG	TD	INT
D. Anderson	9/24	137	5.7	0	0

Get real! Do you think that Browns fans are calling for a new OC or a new QB because of these stats?

Two field goals and a safety from the 8th best offense in the league averaging 27.7 points per game on a day of 30mph winds 20 degree temps and snow. Go find something else more intelligent to ***** about.

[LtFinFan66]

Re: For those of you that thinks our QB sucked today...

Cleo Lemon

23-39
315 yards
1 TD
0 int.



See how meaningless stats can be sometimes

[jpdex12]

Re: For those of you that thinks our QB sucked today...

Numbers can sometimes conceal the truth. 60 of those yards came on the last drive where Trent went 5 for 12. Three passes for 15 or more yards.

Prior to that drive Trent was 8 for 21 with 60 yards where as Anderson was 9/24 with 137. So with roughly same attempts and completions twice the yardage.

That was the difference in the game. Repeated completions for about 10 yards opened up the field for Jamal Lewis so he could continue performing well into the 4th quarter. I remember several 1st downs gained on 1st down passing (GASP!).

We didn't have those kind of completions so eventually they started stuffing Lynch. He ended up with 82 yards on 21 carries, but those came with one 29 yard dash and another 15 yarder. So ignoring a couple broken plays his average was more like 2-3 yards per carry.

Compare that to 163 yards by Lewis with 87 of those yards on carries of less than 10 yards and many more broken plays.

Ignoring the numbers my eyes told me the Browns packed the box pretty much every play from scrimmage. We only tested their man coverage a couple times.

So, Edwards didn't play well but the play calling was atrocious too. Welcome to Colorado, Mr. Fairchild. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

Edwards main problem seemed to be adjusting to timing and touch in the snow. He seemed to be rifling passes to points where receivers might be on turf in the fall. So passes sailed on by and when they didn't there were a lot of drops. Some of those drops were because of lack of receiving talent (I'm looking at you Gaines) and some were a combination of cold and a rifled pass just a hair off the mark.

At some point this season I finally lost my hope for Losman because it became clear that he had problems beyond play calling that didn't often try to go more than 20 yards and didn't encourage scrambling/bootlegs/etc.

I'm nowhere near that point with Edwards. His problems in the snow seemed like timing problems and hopefully time will solve them.

If we're not going to make the playoffs I prefer an outcome that highlights deficiencies and this certainly was one.

I blame bad play-calling by experienced staff and bad play due to rookie inexperience.

Box score
Drive Summary

Don't forget that scewed pass from Anderson to Joe J when the ball bounced out of one WR and into Joe's hands. That was meant for Joe. Meaningless, scewed 30+yard gain by Anderson.

[Johnny Bugmenot]

Re: For those of you that thinks our QB sucked today...

Brady - W
Anderson - W
Edwards - 0 points, couldn't even get the team to FG range against the worst defense in the NFL.

The only stat that matters.

(Sorry for beating this dead horse... but so is everyone else)

[jamze132]

Re: For those of you that thinks our QB sucked today...

Nobody would be *****ing about Edwards today if we won. If we won 8-0, Trent would be hailed as a King.

I in no way will blame this game on a QB. Blame Fairchild. And if ya want to go to the Defensive side of the ball, put a little blame on Fewell too for having a 10 yard cushion between our DBs and their revievers.