2007 buffalo bills season break down pertaining to QB play

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  • djjimkelly
    Registered User
    • Apr 2003
    • 7045

    2007 buffalo bills season break down pertaining to QB play

    Now this isn’t going to be a simple analysis of opinion or of simple wins and losses. I am going to attempt to break down the bills season through pure numbers it will relate to wins and losses by us and of our opponents.

    This analysis will break down each QB and Defense did in certain circumstances. And then correlate them to each other. This will not take into account any injuries.

    This analysis will be purely performance based on yardage and turnovers.

    Any game both appeared in will not be considered I will be nice to both qbs in not calling game vs the pats as either their responsibility even though I would deem it as a trent start he did not practice as the starter not fair for analysis. The second jets game also was basically won by JP in the 4th quarter I will give no one credit for this game.

    One other thing must be added OUR O regardless of qb has not given up points because of an interception or fumble

    ALL FG’s considered product of the O

    JP’s starts 6 of them

    TOTAL O = 271 per game or 1626 in 6 games

    TOTAL D = 397.3 per game or 2384 in 6 games

    GIVEAWAYS 8total 6 picks 2 fumbles or 1.33 per game

    TAKEAWAYS 4 total or 0.66 per game

    TOTAL points 87 points 7 scored on a punt return D scored 0

    TOTAL allowed 144

    AVERAGE D THAT HE FACE 14.6 ranked

    AVERAGE O OUR D FACED 11.5 ranked

    Record 2-4

    Opponents record 45-39 .536 3 playoff teams faced


    Trent’s starts 6 of them

    TOTAL O = 292.1 per game or 1753 in 6 games

    TOTAL D = 319..3 per game or 1916 in 6 games

    GIVEAWAYS 3 picks 2 fumbles or 0.83 per game

    TAKEAWAYS 16 total or 2.66 per game

    TOTAL points 115 D scored 28 special teams 0

    TOTAL ALLOWED 94

    AVERAGE D THAT HE FACE 17 ranked

    AVERAGE O OUR D FACED 17.6 ranked

    Record 4-2

    Opponents record 36-48 .428 2 playoff teams faced


    So all in all this analysis should show one thing both qbs basically have same result !

    They lose to playoff caliber teams and beat the bottom feeders of the league.

    Trent has played a much easier schedule then JP did. And JP is this coaching staffs whipping boy for their complete lack of coaching skill.

    My cursing of trent has been to be simple as an offset to the constant JP bashing that went on here for last couple years. it makes it easier as i am not high on his overall potential

    The truth is currently there isn’t much a difference between the 2. their strengths and weaknesses are different as can be.

    JP played better in 2006 then trent has at ANY POINT THIS SEASON

    JP’s short game is not as bad most would like to believe

    Trents deep ball isn’t as bad as most would like to believe.

    Which one do I think has the upside JP

    I think trent is a backup type im pretty positive I wont be wrong a Kyle Orton type nothing wrong with that on our bench

    Why have I been cursing coaches all year and calling for a new qb to be drafted because I want the bills to be elite to mean something I do know this staff seems to not want JP as I believe they didn’t draft him so why bother this is todays NFL
    you go down with the girl you like not what the other GM liked

    GO BILLS
  • YardRat
    Well, lookie here...
    • Dec 2004
    • 86210

    #2
    Re: 2007 buffalo bills season break down pertaining to QB play

    Wow.

    I knew the team played better with Trent under center, but I didn't realize it was that much of a disparity.
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    • HHURRICANE
      Registered User
      • Mar 2005
      • 15490

      #3
      Re: 2007 buffalo bills season break down pertaining to QB play

      Good post. Obviously Trent is the better QB. Hopefully we'll get him a big #2 in the off-season.

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      • djjimkelly
        Registered User
        • Apr 2003
        • 7045

        #4
        Re: 2007 buffalo bills season break down pertaining to QB play

        Originally posted by YardRat
        Wow.

        I knew the team played better with Trent under center, but I didn't realize it was that much of a disparity.

        do u mean the defense take a look at the avg ranked O our D played in games trent started in comparison to JP's starts

        take a serious look at takeaways QB doesnt effect that stat. D has been on in trents starts but i think that has alot to do with quality of opponent played

        both qbs IMO have been good not giving ball away

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        • djjimkelly
          Registered User
          • Apr 2003
          • 7045

          #5
          Re: 2007 buffalo bills season break down pertaining to QB play

          Originally posted by HHURRICANE
          Good post. Obviously Trent is the better QB. Hopefully we'll get him a big #2 in the off-season.

          not trying to fight how is trent the much better qb when our D played better in his games.

          and

          JP played against much more difficult defenses

          they are basically the same IMO

          20 yards per game as an O difference is nothing

          the 90 extra our D gave up in JP starts is alarming but that goes to how solid the teams he played agst where

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          • Billzz
            Registered User
            • Sep 2003
            • 1131

            #6
            Re: 2007 buffalo bills season break down pertaining to QB play

            Wow Trent really shows how a NFL caliber QB looks in your stats. Thanks for the quality stat info DJm it has been great reading!

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            • djjimkelly
              Registered User
              • Apr 2003
              • 7045

              #7
              Re: 2007 buffalo bills season break down pertaining to QB play

              nobody interested in facts once again

              go figure

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              • MikeInRoch
                Registered User
                • Sep 2003
                • 10446

                #8
                Re: 2007 buffalo bills season break down pertaining to QB play

                Originally posted by djjimkelly
                So all in all this analysis should show one thing both qbs basically have same result !
                And this is why people bash JP. If a ROOKIE can come in and do the same job as you, then you are a failure as a third year QB.
                "'Clean up your room.', 'Stand up straight.', 'Pick up your feet.', 'Take it like a man.', 'Be nice to your sister.', 'Don't mix beer and wine, ever.'. Oh yeah, 'Don't drive on the railroad track.'"

                "Eh, Phil. That's one I happen to agree with."

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                • Crisis
                  Registered User
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 12738

                  #9
                  Re: 2007 buffalo bills season break down pertaining to QB play

                  Great posts.

                  The stats really show that Trent was a much better option than JP.

                  Good research.
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                  • djjimkelly
                    Registered User
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 7045

                    #10
                    Re: 2007 buffalo bills season break down pertaining to QB play

                    Originally posted by Crisis
                    Great posts.

                    The stats really show that Trent was a much better option than JP.

                    Good research.

                    so trent made the D take the ball away better.

                    trent made marshawn and jackson both break 100 yards vs the dolphins.

                    i think these stats actually show JP played much better competition then wasnt allowed to play vs the weaker teams.

                    i think what these stats show the most is the our coaching staff cant beat a decent team regardless of QB

                    dont be surprised when its JP and trent in camp battling to be the qb in 2008

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                    • BillsNick
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 3898

                      #11
                      Re: 2007 buffalo bills season break down pertaining to QB play

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                      • djjimkelly
                        Registered User
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 7045

                        #12
                        Re: 2007 buffalo bills season break down pertaining to QB play

                        our D played like **** with JP in game agst superior opponents

                        our D actually took ball away agst the weaker teams.

                        the O scores less with trent but read them your way lol

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                        • Crisis
                          Registered User
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 12738

                          #13
                          Re: 2007 buffalo bills season break down pertaining to QB play



                          You're right.

                          Trent is just that damn good. Your stats prove it.

                          GO BILLS!!
                          Originally posted by LOSman WINS
                          Vanek is Austrian not European
                          Originally posted by Prov401
                          Pacquiao isn't asian. He's from the philippines
                          Originally posted by better days
                          I will not be surprised if Tebow has more success than Peyton in the NFL.

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                          • Devin
                            The Octagon
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 23878

                            #14
                            Re: 2007 buffalo bills season break down pertaining to QB play

                            Wow the team seems to really rally around Trent!
                            http://gridironjunkies.net/forums/index.php

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                            • Mr. Pink
                              Peterman Sucks!
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 35303

                              #15
                              Re: 2007 buffalo bills season break down pertaining to QB play

                              Good job on the analysis...too bad you can't figure out what it means. Or you can't figure out that with better offensive play, you in turn get better defensive play.

                              Hence, it's obvious the team plays better under Trent than it does under Loseman.

                              Hold the ball longer you get more yards and keep the ball away from the other teams offense. When the other team has the ball less they get less yards. Also the defense isn't as tired so they can make more plays. Hence why the turnovers are up.

                              When you fully understand the game of football someday, you'll see the stats you've posted is exactly why JP is done as an NFL QB and that moving forward with Trent was the right move for the bettermint of the franchise.

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