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Bill Brasky
12-17-2007, 09:18 PM
what is the BIGGEST priority of the front office this coming offseason?


WR?
DL?
OL?
SS/CB/FS?
TE?

justasportsfan
12-17-2007, 09:19 PM
OC

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Billzz
12-17-2007, 09:23 PM
what is the BIGGEST priority of the front office this coming offseason?


WR?
DL?
OL?
SS/CB/FS?
TE?

All the above in no particular order.

Serious tip:

It all starts at the lines, then I would say a $ WR then go TE.

Bill Brasky
12-17-2007, 09:26 PM
IMO:

#1 - Run stuffing DT
#2 - #2WR... I'm talking a guy with size and speed... a guy who can spread the field and go over the middle
#3 - a TE... anything will be an upgrade over what we have

Billzz
12-17-2007, 09:36 PM
IMO:

#1 - Run stuffing DT
#2 - #2WR... I'm talking a guy with size and speed... a guy who can spread the field and go over the middle
#3 - a TE... anything will be an upgrade over what we have

Only problem is we don't play a 4-3 where a run stuffer like wilfork is needed. We used to run that with some great players and ranked #2 on D 2 years in a row. Too bad our offense sucked balls.

We require fast smaller Dlinemen according to the cover 2. Not my opinion just stating what a Cover 2 defense we run uses.

Cannot argue the WR. Would love Manningham or Kelly etc type player here.

I think we can thru FA pick up a decent TE. We tried with Royal from the skins and he showed up in 1 game so far. I think with more game planning using them to sit down in the defense's holes he will be better, underutilized I guess I am saying.

realdealryan
12-17-2007, 09:44 PM
OC

:couch:

X2!

Find someone who can take advantage of our talent.

(for example, I thought Marshawn was a good receiver, capable of creating LB mismatches)

The Jokeman
12-17-2007, 09:45 PM
Only problem is we don't play a 4-3 where a run stuffer like wilfork is needed. We used to run that with some great players and ranked #2 on D 2 years in a row. Too bad our offense sucked balls.

We require fast smaller Dlinemen according to the cover 2. Not my opinion just stating what a Cover 2 defense we run uses.

Cannot argue the WR. Would love Manningham or Kelly etc type player here.

I think we can thru FA pick up a decent TE. We tried with Royal from the skins and he showed up in 1 game so far. I think with more game planning using them to sit down in the defense's holes he will be better, underutilized I guess I am saying.
Freman's analysis is spot on. We don't need Wilfolk but we do need a starting NT. As much as I love Kyle Williams' grit he's a career backup. I've mentioned Russell Davis in the past. In terms of FA TEs, while love to see us get Eric Johnson I think we'd be more apt to draft one in Round 2. I think we can also get an UFA WR with size but there's still question if any of them are true #2 WRs or #3s.

RockStar36
12-17-2007, 10:33 PM
I'd like to see them go after a big time WR and TE. Maybe a real good CB as well.

Mr. Pink
12-18-2007, 02:18 AM
Strong mauling type of Center that would open up lanes and gaps in the run game. Fowler is garbage.

Ingtar33
12-18-2007, 02:22 AM
Fowler and Butler both... C-RG are pretty mediocre.

C - RG - DT - WR - TE - QB - WLB - DB

we're weak in all those positions.

i'll refrain from ranking them, because a football team is a "team" and you're only as strong as your weakest link. all of those are "mediocre" - to - "terrible" in talent atm and need an immediate upgrade.

jamze132
12-18-2007, 02:29 AM
We need to be as active in FA and fill as many holes as possible prior to the draft.

We need a legit #2 receiver, a #1 TE, a better DT and a C. If we could aquire that through FA, we could should go CB in round one.

Or if they want to get a good CB through FA, we can just pick BPA all day.

tampabay25690
12-18-2007, 06:23 AM
#1 Run Stuffing DT we need a STUD here, ALBERT HAYNESWORTH looks great in a BILLS UNI..

#2 OLB POZ/CROWELL look great we get a 3rd wow...

#3 CB ENOUGH SAID Greer has stepped in fine and are young talent will get better

#4 WR Tall big WR/ Malcom Kelly/Mannigham would be great to draft here

Safety/ We need some talent behind Simpson and Whitner

TE/ Royal and Gaines are fine here could use a pass catching TE

DE/ SOmeone that can actually pressure the QB

OL/ Position has played well this year but we need some depth to push Fowler for his job

Yasgur's Farm
12-18-2007, 06:31 AM
Between FA and draft...

1a) Big speedy WR - Notice I didn't say a #2 WR.
1b) Big dominating TE with soft hands.
1c) Big smart talented Center.
2) CB
3) RG

colin
12-18-2007, 07:20 AM
in terms of importance i think it is easy

1. play making wr. we need a threat accross the middle, in outs, someone with some go up and get the ball ability. forget linemen, we have some good big guys, we have zero wr's besides evans and evans is not a true star (remember how much better the giants got with plexico? we need a guy like that, maybe chad johnson).

2/3. DB/LB. we've got one of each coming back, but this is where our real need on D is. we lost spikes fletcher and clements, we need to replace them.

4. interior OL. pass blocking is good, but run blocking is poor at times. i think just one day one type guy would be enough for now, maybe some guys later in the draft.

5. DT.

i know everyone bangs the dt drum, but we are ok againt the run with what we have, and 2 of our DTs are just enterig their 3rd year. our LBs get schooled all the damn time (ellison and dipizza are lost out there at times), and our secondary is tiny.

most of all tho we need a new OC, and i think we have to let mcnally on his way. we need a whole new offensive staff IMO

realdealryan
12-18-2007, 07:25 AM
Speaking of NT, anyone see the nobody that the Bears just signed? He blew up a few plays in the fourth quarter, absolutely blowing up Matt Birk. Why can't we find these guys?

Don't Panic
12-18-2007, 07:53 AM
In no particular order...

1. Experienced QB who is not necessarily looking ot start but could be servicable if pressed into action OR keep JP if we can't get a decent return for him (If we couldn't get a 3rd, which I doubt we can, then I would keep him)
2. Quality #2 WR. I honestly don't care how big he is (does size scare you off with Steve Smith?). I feel like if we get a great possession WR in the mold of Smith or Coles, it will take a ton of pressure of Evans and open up a lot of things that aren't there for him now. Plus, I think the perfect compliment to a cover 2 D is a great ball control offense which requires a possession WR
3. Pass catching TE. Enough has been said about this already... should be obvious why we need one.
4. Run blocking C. Fowler has been adequate, but we need someone who is going to be able to match up with big interior linemen and be able to provide a little push so that Marshawn and Co. can run inside more effectively.
5. Another speed DE. One who can compete to start so we can rotate 4 at 2 spots and have fresh pass rushers in there every down. Getting to the QB is key to making the cover 2 work.
6. WLB. If we brought in a true stud here, it would make every individual on the D instantly a better player.

If we address those 6 spots, I'll feel pretty good about our chances next year.

bigbub2352
12-18-2007, 08:40 AM
We need a WR with size,
we need a TE with recieving skills and size
we need a nasty LB
we need a run stoppin DT, a real nose guard
we need a true H-back-maybe Schouman didnt see enough of him
we need a real C, Fowler kills us on run plays
upgrade at RG, but this might not be a priority Butler is still developing
We need a real OC
Depth in the secondary
Backup Vet QB
Pass Rushing specialist at DE, we really **** the bed with Kelsay and Schobel

10 picks and 30million under, lets make it happen this year some of the pieces are there, we need to make a real run this year

OpIv37
12-18-2007, 08:45 AM
I'd like to see something done at DT, but with all the money we have tied up in the DL and Tripplett having a whole 2 good games out of 14, I don't see it happening.

I'd say a true #2 receiver is the #1 priority, preferably someone with some height so we can throw sideline routes and fades in the red zone.

2a is a receiving TE and 2b is an upgrade over Fowler at C. A good enough TE could even be #1 because it would reduce the need for a tall WR. We need a WR one way or the other, but if we get a receiving TE we won't necessarily need a top guy for WR.

We need some depth at LB, possibly another starter. Ellison is invisible out there and DiG is inconsistent. Poz looked great before going down and Crowell is decent but I still think we could use an upgrade.

We also need depth at S. Jim Leonard just doesn't cut it.

NorthCarBills
12-18-2007, 09:29 AM
True Red Zone target --- either big and fast WR or TE. I think this is an area you can pull from the draft.
Outside LB - Ellison is a great depth player, but would love to see a real proven veteran start at this position. Find via FA if possible.
Depth within the secondary -- We are so thin at CB and S, I'd be happy addressing either position in any shape or form. Even with Ko back, Wilson is the only justifiable depth guy we have in the backfield.
Center - Fowler moves to #2. This upgrade could come from proven vet or stud within draft.
DT - Bring someone in to challenge Trips during TC. I realize his salary is a concern, but as most coaches say, no one's job is 100% secure.

BlackMetalNinja
12-18-2007, 09:41 AM
Three big ones in my book...

Run Stuffing DT
Tall, Strong WR
a TE... not picky here, anything is an upgrade at this point...

After that I think CB, then OLB are the next areas of concern.

alohabillsfan
12-18-2007, 10:07 AM
I will break this down into both FA and Draft...

Free Agency

1) TE Dallas Clark if not resigned or franchised by Indy! LJ Smith Back-up plan
2) DT Corey Williams GB

Draft

1) WR Malcolm Kelly, Oklahoma
2) CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Tennessee State
3a) C Steve Justice, Wake Forest
3b) OLB Ezra Butler, Nevada

Bill Brasky
12-18-2007, 11:27 AM
We need to be as active in FA and fill as many holes as possible prior to the draft.

We need a legit #2 receiver, a #1 TE, a better DT and a C. If we could aquire that through FA, we could should go CB in round one.

A FREAKIN MEN brother!

but judging from the past, i just don't see this team making a huge dip in free agency. i hope they prove me wrong this year.

Ed
12-18-2007, 11:29 AM
Fowler and Butler both... C-RG are pretty mediocre.

C - RG - DT - WR - TE - QB - WLB - DB

we're weak in all those positions.

i'll refrain from ranking them, because a football team is a "team" and you're only as strong as your weakest link. all of those are "mediocre" - to - "terrible" in talent atm and need an immediate upgrade.
Do you think Butler just needs more time to develop, or does he just not have the talent to become a good player? It seemed like the coaches were pretty high on his potential coming into the season. I thought it was impressive that he won the starting job too, despite missing a lot of training camp.

So what position would you consider terrible? Even with the injuries, I haven't really felt like we've had any glaring or obvious weaknesses like in years past.

jamze132
12-19-2007, 12:31 AM
A FREAKIN MEN brother!

but judging from the past, i just don't see this team making a huge dip in free agency. i hope they prove me wrong this year.
Well if you consider dropping over $25 mil on Langston Walker a huge dip...

I really hope we can sign some better players for that type of money.