DB's Mock Draft v6.0

[DraftBoy]

Thanks to NE39 for the draft order! You guys are used to this by now, comments and criticism welcome!

1. Miami-DE Chris Long-Virginia
2. St. Louis-DT Glenn Dorsey-LSU
3. NY Jets-RB Darren McFadden-Arkansas
4. Atlanta-OT Jake Long-Michigan
5. New England (San Francisco)-LB James Lauranitis-New England
6. Baltimore-QB Brian Brohm-Louisville
7. Kansas City-OT Sam Baker-USC
8. Oakland-S Kenny Phillips-Miami
9. Cincinnati-DT Sedrick Ellis-USC
10. Chicago-QB Matt Ryan-Boston College
11. Arizona-CB Antoine Cason-Arizona
12. Denver-WR Desean Jackson-Cal
13. Carolina-LB Dan Connor-Penn State
14. Detroit-DE Calais Campbell-Miami
15. Philadelphia-WR Malcolm Kelly-Oklahoma
16. New Orleans-LB Keith Rivers-USC
17. Buffalo-WR Adarius Bowman-Oklahoma State
18. Houston-OT Ryan Clady-Boise St
19. Washington-OT/OG Micheal Oher-Mississippi
20. Minnesota-WR Early Doucet-LSU
21. Tennessee-DE Vernon Gholston-Ohio State
22. Seattle-QB Andre Woodson-Kentucky
23. Dallas(Cleveland)-CB Malcolm Jenkins-Ohio State
24. Pittsburgh-LB Derrick Harvey-Florida
25. Tampa Bay-OT Gosder Cherilus-Boston College
26. New York Giants-CB Justin King-Penn State
27. San Diego-DE Tyson Jackson-LSU
28. Jacksonville-LB Quentin Groves-Auburn
29. Green Bay-RB James Stewart-Oregon
30. Dallas-DT Frank Okam-Texas
31. San Francisco(Indianapolis)-WR James Hardy-Indiana
32. New England-Forfeit

33. Miami-CB Aqib Talib-Kansas
34. St. Louis-DE Lawrence Jackson-USC
35. NY Jets-DE Chris Ellis-Virginia Tech
36. Atlanta-RB Mike Hart-Michigan
37. San Francisco-WR Mario Manningham-Michigan
38. Baltimore-WR Limas Sweed-Texas
39. Kansas City-WR DJ Hall-Alabama
40. Oakland-DT Demario Pressley-NC State
41. Cincinnati-LB Xavier Abidi-Virginia Tech
42. Chicago-TE Fred Davis-USC
43. Arizona-S Josh Barrett-Arizona St
44. Denver-DE Bruce Davis-UCLA
45. Carolina-OT Jeff Otah-Pittsburgh
46. Detroit-TE Martin Rucker-Missouri
47. Philadelphia-OT Barry Richardson-Clemson
48. New Orleans-TE Jon Carlson-Notre Dame
49. Buffalo-LB Beau Bell-UNLV
50. Atlanta (Houston)-DT Kentwan Barnes-North Carolina
51. Washington-S Jonathan Heffney-Tennessee
52. Minnesota-CB Chevis Jackson-LSU
53. Tennessee-CB Dejuan Tribble-Boston College
54. Seattle-OG Roy Shuening-Oregon State
55. Cleveland-RB Felix Jones-Arkansas
56. Pittsburgh-LB Erin Henderson-Maryland
57. Tampa Bay-LB Phillip Wheeler-Georgia Tech
58. NY Giants-OT Jon Greco-Toledo
59. Miami (San Diego)-RB James Davis-Clemson
60. Jacksonville-CB Dwight Lowry-San Jose St
61. Green Bay-DT Marcus Harrison-Arkansas
62. Indianapolis- LB Ali Highsmith-LSU
63. Dallas-WR Keenan Burton-Kentucky
64. New England-OT Tony Hills-Texas

[RockStar36]

I'm still learning all the prospects so I'm not overly familar with the WR you have the Bills taking. I'm hoping for Kelly myself.

[DraftBoy]

I'm still learning all the prospects so I'm not overly familar with the WR you have the Bills taking. I'm hoping for Kelly myself.

Bowman and Kelly are 1a and 1b in this years class, Bowman is bigger, and stronger but will need to learn more about going over the middle. His routes are rough and need to be polished but he has amazing natural hands and at 6'5 can jump with anybody in the league for a high ball.

[Mahdi]

I like most of your draft... I would make a few changes though....

Denver- theres no way they go WR. They are in excellent shape with their wr corps-- they have 2 #1 WRs with Brandon Marshall and Javon Walker and then they have Stokely who they just extended to a long term deal. Plus they also have 2 good TEs in Scheffler and Grahame. They are set with their receiving corps.

Arizona- Although taking a CB is possible I think they have a good trio with Rolle who has stepped up lately, Green and Rod Hood. Im almost certain that Arizona takes a DE with their first pick, which would be Gholston, Jackson or Campbell.

[DraftBoy]

I like most of your draft... I would make a few changes though....

Denver- theres no way they go WR. They are in excellent shape with their wr corps-- they have 2 #1 WRs with Brandon Marshall and Javon Walker and then they have Stokely who they just extended to a long term deal. Plus they also have 2 good TEs in Scheffler and Grahame. They are set with their receiving corps.

Arizona- Although taking a CB is possible I think they have a good trio with Rolle who has stepped up lately, Green and Rod Hood. Im almost certain that Arizona takes a DE with their first pick, which would be Gholston, Jackson or Campbell.

I see your point but with Denver they lack a deep field speed threat, Marshall is emerging as #1 but Jackson isnt near ready and would be a good pick for them to develop, and would add an immediate threat as a returner.

Arizona-Tough to pick for them, you may be right about them going DE in the end

[eyedog]

I see you got McFadden right now, that's if he even makes it to the Jets.

I see the Bills taking the cb-Jenkins from OSU in the 1st before a wr.

Neither the cb or wr would be my picks if drafting.

[Don't Panic]

WR and LB are two positions (along with QB, if nec.) I hope we address in FA, not the draft. I'd like to see us go TE/DE in the 1st and 2nd if there are good ones there when we pick.

[EDS]

If I am the Bills I look long and hard at DT in round one or two. WR is a huge need but I question whether relying on a rookie is the right way to go. It seems the bust rate at WR is very high for 1st rounders.

[DraftBoy]

I dont see a DT in round 1 that will fall to us and maybe Barnes in Round 2 would be a good pickup, but we'll have to see.

[eyedog]

You talking about Balmer ?

[Mahdi]

I see your point but with Denver they lack a deep field speed threat, Marshall is emerging as #1 but Jackson isnt near ready and would be a good pick for them to develop, and would add an immediate threat as a returner.

Arizona-Tough to pick for them, you may be right about them going DE in the end
When Walker is healthy which he is now,,,, he is a very good deep threat. Remember what he did in Green Bay? The thing is if they do draft Jackson he wouldnt get much playing time. Their top three WRs are locked in and provide everything you need from a WR corps. But you never know I guess, crazier things have happened.

[DraftBoy]

When Walker is healthy which he is now,,,, he is a very good deep threat. Remember what he did in Green Bay? The thing is if they do draft Jackson he wouldnt get much playing time. Their top three WRs are locked in and provide everything you need from a WR corps. But you never know I guess, crazier things have happened.

I agree but Jackson is the deep field pure speed threat they dont have. Walker does not have top end speed and Jackson also is an electrifying PR. Besides I remember some other team taking a returner in the top 10 last year.

[DraftBoy]

You talking about Balmer ?
Yea mistype my mistake, good catch

[clumping platelets]

Lowery in rd 2.........we need bigger CBs

[mysticsoto]

Well here would be mine. Some areas I've changed my mind on, so we'll likely differ a bit. I had some people falling to the bottom of the 1st which even surprised me...and some people that I expected to get drafted in the 1st 2 rounds that didn't make it. Well...that's what's fun about this, right? People fall down drafts all the time unexpectedly!

1st Round:

1. Miami-DT Glenn Dorsey
2. St. Louis-DE Chris Long
3. NY Jets-RB Darren McFadden
4. Atlanta-QB Matt Ryan
5. New England (San Francisco)-OT Jake Long
6. Baltimore-LB Dan Connor
7. Kansas City-OT Ryan Clady
8. Oakland-OT/OG Micheal Oher
9. Cincinnati-DT Sedrick Ellis
10. Chicago-QB Brian Brohm
11. Arizona-CB Mike Jenkins
12. Denver-WR Desean Jackson
13. Carolina-S Kenny Phillips
14. Detroit-QB Andre Woodson
15. Philadelphia-WR Malcolm Kelly
16. New Orleans-LB James Lauranitis
17. Buffalo-WR James Hardy
18. Houston-CB Antoine Cason
19. Washington-DE Calais Campbell
20. Minnesota-DE Vernon Gholston
21. Tennessee-WR Early Doucet
22. Seattle-RB James Stewart
23. Dallas(Cleveland)-CB Malcolm Jenkins
24. Pittsburgh-OT Sam Baker
25. Tampa Bay-OT Gosder Cherilus
26. New York Giants-CB Aqib Talib
27. San Diego-LB Keith Rivers
28. Jacksonville-LB Derrick Harvey
29. Green Bay-CB Justin King
30. Dallas-DT Frank Okam
31. San Francisco(Indianapolis)-WR Adarius Bowman
32. New England-Forfeit

2nd Round:

33. Miami-LB Quentin Groves
34. St. Louis-OT Jeff Otah
35. NY Jets-WR Limas Sweed
36. Atlanta-RB Felix Jones
37. San Francisco-DE Lawrence Jackson
38. Baltimore-CB Reggie Smith
39. Kansas City-CB Dejuan Tribble
40. Oakland-DE Tyson Jackson
41. Cincinnati-DE Chris Ellis
42. Chicago-RB Mike Hart
43. Arizona-DT Demario Pressley
44. Denver-LB Xavier Abidi
45. Carolina-TE Martin Rucker
46. Detroit-OT Barry Richardson
47. Philadelphia-OT Chris Williams
48. New Orleans-TE Jon Carlson
49. Buffalo-TE Martellus Bennett
50. Atlanta (Houston)-WR Mario Manningham
51. Washington-S Jonathan Heffney
52. Minnesota-WR DJ Hall
53. Tennessee-TE Fred Davis
54. Seattle-OG Roy Shuening
55. Cleveland-DT Kentwan Barnes
56. Pittsburgh-DE Bruce Davis
57. Tampa Bay-WR Devin Thomas
58. NY Giants-OT Jon Greco
59. Miami (San Diego)-S Josh Barrett
60. Jacksonville-WR Steve Johnson
61. Green Bay-DT Marcus Harrison
62. Indianapolis- LB Phillip Wheeler
63. Dallas-WR Jordy Nelson
64. New England-LB Shawn Crable

[DraftBoy]

If Bennett declares no way I see him lasting till Round 2 but if he did I think Id have a man crush on him like MBB does with TE

[bigbub2352]

Well here would be mine. Some areas I've changed my mind on, so we'll likely differ a bit. I had some people falling to the bottom of the 1st which even surprised me...and some people that I expected to get drafted in the 1st 2 rounds that didn't make it. Well...that's what's fun about this, right? People fall down drafts all the time unexpectedly!

1st Round:

1. Miami-DT Glenn Dorsey
2. St. Louis-DE Chris Long
3. NY Jets-RB Darren McFadden
4. Atlanta-QB Matt Ryan
5. New England (San Francisco)-OT Jake Long
6. Baltimore-LB Dan Connor
7. Kansas City-OT Ryan Clady
8. Oakland-OT/OG Micheal Oher
9. Cincinnati-DT Sedrick Ellis
10. Chicago-QB Brian Brohm
11. Arizona-CB Mike Jenkins
12. Denver-WR Desean Jackson
13. Carolina-S Kenny Phillips
14. Detroit-QB Andre Woodson
15. Philadelphia-WR Malcolm Kelly
16. New Orleans-LB James Lauranitis
17. Buffalo-WR James Hardy
18. Houston-CB Antoine Cason
19. Washington-DE Calais Campbell
20. Minnesota-DE Vernon Gholston
21. Tennessee-WR Early Doucet
22. Seattle-RB James Stewart
23. Dallas(Cleveland)-CB Malcolm Jenkins
24. Pittsburgh-OT Sam Baker
25. Tampa Bay-OT Gosder Cherilus
26. New York Giants-CB Aqib Talib
27. San Diego-LB Keith Rivers
28. Jacksonville-LB Derrick Harvey
29. Green Bay-CB Justin King
30. Dallas-DT Frank Okam
31. San Francisco(Indianapolis)-WR Adarius Bowman
32. New England-Forfeit

2nd Round:

33. Miami-LB Quentin Groves
34. St. Louis-OT Jeff Otah
35. NY Jets-WR Limas Sweed
36. Atlanta-RB Felix Jones
37. San Francisco-DE Lawrence Jackson
38. Baltimore-CB Reggie Smith
39. Kansas City-CB Dejuan Tribble
40. Oakland-DE Tyson Jackson
41. Cincinnati-DE Chris Ellis
42. Chicago-RB Mike Hart
43. Arizona-DT Demario Pressley
44. Denver-LB Xavier Abidi
45. Carolina-TE Martin Rucker
46. Detroit-OT Barry Richardson
47. Philadelphia-OT Chris Williams
48. New Orleans-TE Jon Carlson
49. Buffalo-TE Martellus Bennett
50. Atlanta (Houston)-WR Mario Manningham
51. Washington-S Jonathan Heffney
52. Minnesota-WR DJ Hall
53. Tennessee-TE Fred Davis
54. Seattle-OG Roy Shuening
55. Cleveland-DT Kentwan Barnes
56. Pittsburgh-DE Bruce Davis
57. Tampa Bay-WR Devin Thomas
58. NY Giants-OT Jon Greco
59. Miami (San Diego)-S Josh Barrett
60. Jacksonville-WR Steve Johnson
61. Green Bay-DT Marcus Harrison
62. Indianapolis- LB Phillip Wheeler
63. Dallas-WR Jordy Nelson
64. New England-LB Shawn Crable



I gotta tell u i think me and u share a brain, i would luv these picks, Hardy is 6ft 7in and Bennett can play and is also big, we need to go after DT and LB in FA, but if this is what we do in the draft i would be a happy fellow, GREAT POST

[EDS]

I dont see a DT in round 1 that will fall to us and maybe Barnes in Round 2 would be a good pickup, but we'll have to see.

This may be the draft where the Bills need to trade down.

[dannyek71]

why doesnt NE have their 2nd 1st round pick again?

[Ed]

I can't believe the fins, jets AND the pats are all picking in the top 5 right now. Welcome to the AFC East McFadden. ***** great.

[DraftBoy]

why doesnt NE have their 2nd 1st round pick again?


Spygate

[Captain gameboy]

Chris Long as the first or second pick of the draft?

Wow. I would not want to be the GM that made that pick.

[DraftBoy]

We shall see how he ends up

[mysticsoto]

I gotta tell u i think me and u share a brain, i would luv these picks, Hardy is 6ft 7in and Bennett can play and is also big, we need to go after DT and LB in FA, but if this is what we do in the draft i would be a happy fellow, GREAT POST

It's hard to tell for sure with Buffalo right now b'cse alot will likely depend on the OC we get for next year. I can tell you that if Fairchild were staying, I would not have picked Hardy as my 1st pick. Fairchild likes speedy guys vs tall. I went with what *I* would do if I were GM. I gave Trent Edwards 2 tall prospects to add to his arsenal - a tall WR at 6'7" and a speedy TE that Edwards could use as a checkdown across the middle. Alongside speedy Evans and two great tandem RBs in Lynch and Jackson, I figured that *SHOULD* upgrade the offense quite a bit!

It did nothing to upgrade our pass rush however. But I didn't feel there were DTs worth it after Dorsey and Ellis in the 1st or 2nd rd. There were plenty of DEs, but we have invested so much in Kelsay alongside Schobel, that I really can't see the FO grabbing one. As it stands, the our D has been playing decent as of late. If we can kickstart our O to produce more, that should make up for alot!!!

[mysticsoto]

If Bennett declares no way I see him lasting till Round 2 but if he did I think Id have a man crush on him like MBB does with TE

:lol:

[Ickybaluky]

I like mysticsoto's draft. Long and Crable are both good fits for the Pats.

Crable is raw, but he has the size and fist the OLB/DE profile for their LB. I'd be surprised if they took Laurinitis, who is small for an ILB in their system. Plus that is too high to take him. Dan Connor isn't a good fit, either.

I just don't see them going LB with the high pick.

[DraftBoy]

I like mysticsoto's draft. Long and Crable are both good fits for the Pats.

Crable is raw, but he has the size and fist the OLB/DE profile for their LB. I'd be surprised if they took Laurinitis, who is small for an ILB in their system. Plus that is too high to take him. Dan Connor isn't a good fit, either.

I just don't see them going LB with the high pick.

If NE stays behind ATL, I dont think Jake Long makes it to the Patriots.

In my mock situation who do you have NE take then?

[THATHURMANATOR]

Why does Chicago need another TE in the second round? Don't they have Clark are Olsen?

[Captain gameboy]

I like mysticsoto's draft. Long and Crable are both good fits for the Pats.


I would love for the Pats to take Chris Long.

Jason Peters would absolutely consume him, but of course the Pats wold be far too smart to line him up at RDE.

Peters is WAY better than Brick, and Brick had no problem with Long.

[mysticsoto]

Why does Chicago need another TE in the second round? Don't they have Clark are Olsen?

Desmond Clark is sporadic and a short TE. And to be honest, I was never really that high on Olsen. He was the best available TE at the time of draft, but I don't think he's anything special. And he's certainly shown nothing thus far - though admittedly, my view may be affected by the crappy QB play Chicago has had these last few years...

[mysticsoto]

I would love for the Pats to take Chris Long.

Jason Peters would absolutely consume him, but of course the Pats wold be far too smart to line him up at RDE.

Peters is WAY better than Brick, and Brick had no problem with Long.

I have the Pats taking Jake Long, not Chris Long...

But for the record, sometimes DEs take time to develop. I was one of the few who thought that Mario Williams was a good pick for Houston - vs the sexy Reggie Bush pick. Now, Williams is starting to pay off for the Texans.

Getting owned by someone doesn't mean you aren't good. Peters made JT his ***** last year and even this year. But nobody here is going to say that JT sucks b'cse of that...in fact, I know people here who absolutely hate Miami, but would accept JT on our team in a second...

[eyedog]

Where's Rey Maualuga the USC lb ?

There's your lb for the Pats NE39. I hope that guy doesn't end up in New Eng somehow. I think he will be gone before the Pats pick in rd.2.

[Dr. Lecter]

Desmond Clark is sporadic and a short TE. And to be honest, I was never really that high on Olsen. He was the best available TE at the time of draft, but I don't think he's anything special. And he's certainly shown nothing thus far - though admittedly, my view may be affected by the crappy QB play Chicago has had these last few years...

Clark has 42 receptions for 532 yards and 3 TDs. Olsen has 36 for 364 and 2.

Chicago will not take a TE. If they do, there will be riots.

[eyedog]

Chicago is taking a qb.

[eyedog]

My bad. I see your talking Chicago in rd.2. I agree still no T-end.
I do see them going rb though.

[DraftBoy]

Well here would be mine. Some areas I've changed my mind on, so we'll likely differ a bit. I had some people falling to the bottom of the 1st which even surprised me...and some people that I expected to get drafted in the 1st 2 rounds that didn't make it. Well...that's what's fun about this, right? People fall down drafts all the time unexpectedly!

1st Round:

1. Miami-DT Glenn Dorsey
2. St. Louis-DE Chris Long
3. NY Jets-RB Darren McFadden
4. Atlanta-QB Matt Ryan
5. New England (San Francisco)-OT Jake Long
6. Baltimore-LB Dan Connor
7. Kansas City-OT Ryan Clady
8. Oakland-OT/OG Micheal Oher
9. Cincinnati-DT Sedrick Ellis
10. Chicago-QB Brian Brohm
11. Arizona-CB Mike Jenkins
12. Denver-WR Desean Jackson
13. Carolina-S Kenny Phillips
14. Detroit-QB Andre Woodson
15. Philadelphia-WR Malcolm Kelly
16. New Orleans-LB James Lauranitis
17. Buffalo-WR James Hardy
18. Houston-CB Antoine Cason
19. Washington-DE Calais Campbell
20. Minnesota-DE Vernon Gholston
21. Tennessee-WR Early Doucet
22. Seattle-RB James Stewart
23. Dallas(Cleveland)-CB Malcolm Jenkins
24. Pittsburgh-OT Sam Baker
25. Tampa Bay-OT Gosder Cherilus
26. New York Giants-CB Aqib Talib
27. San Diego-LB Keith Rivers
28. Jacksonville-LB Derrick Harvey
29. Green Bay-CB Justin King
30. Dallas-DT Frank Okam
31. San Francisco(Indianapolis)-WR Adarius Bowman
32. New England-Forfeit

2nd Round:

33. Miami-LB Quentin Groves
34. St. Louis-OT Jeff Otah
35. NY Jets-WR Limas Sweed
36. Atlanta-RB Felix Jones
37. San Francisco-DE Lawrence Jackson
38. Baltimore-CB Reggie Smith
39. Kansas City-CB Dejuan Tribble
40. Oakland-DE Tyson Jackson
41. Cincinnati-DE Chris Ellis
42. Chicago-RB Mike Hart
43. Arizona-DT Demario Pressley
44. Denver-LB Xavier Abidi
45. Carolina-TE Martin Rucker
46. Detroit-OT Barry Richardson
47. Philadelphia-OT Chris Williams
48. New Orleans-TE Jon Carlson
49. Buffalo-TE Martellus Bennett
50. Atlanta (Houston)-WR Mario Manningham
51. Washington-S Jonathan Heffney
52. Minnesota-WR DJ Hall
53. Tennessee-TE Fred Davis
54. Seattle-OG Roy Shuening
55. Cleveland-DT Kentwan Barnes
56. Pittsburgh-DE Bruce Davis
57. Tampa Bay-WR Devin Thomas
58. NY Giants-OT Jon Greco
59. Miami (San Diego)-S Josh Barrett
60. Jacksonville-WR Steve Johnson
61. Green Bay-DT Marcus Harrison
62. Indianapolis- LB Phillip Wheeler
63. Dallas-WR Jordy Nelson
64. New England-LB Shawn Crable




Few comments-
Atlanta-Wont go QB in Rd 1 or 2 imo, they cant protect one so why invest it, GM Rich McKay said the same pretty much this week, thats why I say Long
Kansas City-You got Clady overtaking Baker?
Arizona-You think Mike Jenkins is the top CB in the class?
Detroit-Are they giving up on Drew Stanton already?
Houston-Dunta Robinson and Hutchings make a good combo
Minnesotta-Udeze and Edwards each have 5 sacks and they have adequate depth
Seattle-They take Stewart to sit behind Alexander and Morris?
Keith Rivers-Falling like a rock, you see that?
Reggie Smith-Wont leave unless he's a top 15 pick
Pittsburgh-Bruce Davis is a 3-4 hybrid LB/DE you think they'll use him like that?
Dallas-Jordy Nelson, awesome pick

[DraftBoy]

Where's Rey Maualuga the USC lb ?

There's your lb for the Pats NE39. I hope that guy doesn't end up in New Eng somehow. I think he will be gone before the Pats pick in rd.2.


Already annouced his intent to stay in school;

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=141671

Thats the official tracking list for those that declare or dont

[mysticsoto]

Clark has 42 receptions for 532 yards and 3 TDs. Olsen has 36 for 364 and 2.

Chicago will not take a TE. If they do, there will be riots.

I had them taking a RB not a TE. I'm just trying to rationalize why maybe DB chose a TE. What they have is serviceable, but I don't think great...

[DraftBoy]

Clark has 42 receptions for 532 yards and 3 TDs. Olsen has 36 for 364 and 2.

Chicago will not take a TE. If they do, there will be riots.


Thought Clark was a FA, I was wrong, it will be changed for the next mock

[mysticsoto]

Few comments-
Atlanta-Wont go QB in Rd 1 or 2 imo, they cant protect one so why invest it, GM Rich McKay said the same pretty much this week, thats why I say Long Atlanta should get their QB of the future while they have a high pick. Or else they'll be stuck like us w/mediocre QBs. You can always get serviceable linemen in later rds, but good QBs in later rds are rare!


Kansas City-You got Clady overtaking Baker? For now I have Clady over Baker b'cse of Baker's injury. He seems to get injured alot and I guess I question his toughness which makes me drop him a bit.


Arizona-You think Mike Jenkins is the top CB in the class? Yes, I do have Jenkins at the top (or atleast among the top). I think Cason is too slow to be at the top and would fit better in a cover 2 system - I probably should have lowered him further than Houston...


Detroit-Are they giving up on Drew Stanton already? Maybe not given up, but they need a QB now that they have a decent team. If they wait too long, by the time they mold a QB, the rest of the team will be gone and they'll have to start over. Them grabbing a QB might be akin to Cleveland grabbing Brady Quinn. If Stanton becomes their Anderson, then great. If not, they have a good backup plan to implement!


Houston-Dunta Robinson and Hutchings make a good combo They could go CB or S. Their secondary could be better!!!


Minnesotta-Udeze and Edwards each have 5 sacks and they have adequate depth Edwards has off the field issues and Udeze has been up and down. Last year he had 0 sacks and the year before that, just 1...


Seattle-They take Stewart to sit behind Alexander and Morris? Alexander has not been the same since his injury. They need a top prospect to begin easing his load and take over eventually.


Keith Rivers-Falling like a rock, you see that? Didn't plan on it. But that's what happened...


Reggie Smith-Wont leave unless he's a top 15 pick Hard to tell with some players. I simply chose the best candidate I thought. If he doesn't declare, then obviously the draft would need to be readjusted.


Pittsburgh-Bruce Davis is a 3-4 hybrid LB/DE you think they'll use him like that? Sure. Why not?


Dallas-Jordy Nelson, awesome pick They'll need to groom TO's replacement soon.

[Ickybaluky]

I would love for the Pats to take Chris Long.

If they did, they might make him a LB.

[DraftBoy]

Atlanta should get their QB of the future while they have a high pick. Or else they'll be stuck like us w/mediocre QBs. You can always get serviceable linemen in later rds, but good QBs in later rds are rare!
For now I have Clady over Baker b'cse of Baker's injury. He seems to get injured alot and I guess I question his toughness which makes me drop him a bit.
Yes, I do have Jenkins at the top (or atleast among the top). I think Cason is too slow to be at the top and would fit better in a cover 2 system - I probably should have lowered him further than Houston...
Maybe not given up, but they need a QB now that they have a decent team. If they wait too long, by the time they mold a QB, the rest of the team will be gone and they'll have to start over. Them grabbing a QB might be akin to Cleveland grabbing Brady Quinn. If Stanton becomes their Anderson, then great. If not, they have a good backup plan to implement!
They could go CB or S. Their secondary could be better!!!
Edwards has off the field issues and Udeze has been up and down. Last year he had 0 sacks and the year before that, just 1...
Alexander has not been the same since his injury. They need a top prospect to begin easing his load and take over eventually.
Didn't plan on it. But that's what happened...
Hard to tell with some players. I simply chose the best candidate I thought. If he doesn't declare, then obviously the draft would need to be readjusted.
Sure. Why not?
They'll need to groom TO's replacement soon.

Why do you gotta post in blue?

Atlanta does not need to waste the time or money on a good QB until they can adequately protect one, other wise they are pissing away money. I think they'll be looking at maybe a Colt Brennan in Rd 3.

Understandable about Clady and Baker

I got Jenkins 3rd or 4th, Cason's speed is not as bad people think if he clocks in the 4.45-4.5 range he'll be the top CB taken bc he is the most physical.

I get your logic from Detroit but Woodson need alot of work still, I dont know that he's any further along then Stanton at this point.

Could be better yes, but they need OL help, and RB

Im pretty sure its Morris's job when Alexander goes bye bye and he has filled in quite nicely, they'll need a backup but Im not sure Stewart would be ok with that.

Yes Edwards does but keep in mind behind him is UT Pass Rush specialist Brian Robinson, and James is still around.

[ParanoidAndroid]

I love the Bowman pick. Hopefully, Martin Rucker makes his way into a Bills uniform, too.
Lynch, Jackson, Evans, Bowman, Parrish and Rucker would be all the weapons that Trent could ever need.
I wouldn't want to neglect the D-line, though, so a FA, trade, or 3rd round steal would be nice.

[OpIv37]

why doesnt NE have their 2nd 1st round pick again?

cuz they got busted for cheating. It's part of their spygate punishment.

[Ickybaluky]

In my mock situation who do you have NE take then?

No matter what, I think they do everything possible to trade down, unless there is a guy there they fall in love with (I don't see on in this draft, but maybe a Jr. will declare). I don't think they want to pay a rookie top-5 money, and would expect they would rather slide down to the middle of the round and pick up extra value.

It would be interesting if SF finishes bad enough to give them a shot at Darren McFadden. Jerry Jones is close to the Arkansas program, and loves McFadden. Dallas has two picks late in the round. They could trade out of the top-5 for both Dallas picks in the bottom 1st (where they like the value money-wise) and Marion Barber. I'd love to see Barber in a Pats uniform, teaming once again with Maroney.

[OpIv37]

I know you guys are trying to do it based on today's standings, but doesn't the SB loser get #31? That would put Dallas behind Indy.

[Ickybaluky]

I know you guys are trying to do it based on today's standings, but doesn't the SB loser get #31? That would put Dallas behind Indy.

The final seedings for playoff teams won't be settled until they play the games.

Dallas is no shoo-in in the NFC. Green Bay is obviously very good, and I think Tampa Bay is a darkhorse that might upset someone in the playoffs.

[mysticsoto]

Why do you gotta post in blue? I like color.


Atlanta does not need to waste the time or money on a good QB until they can adequately protect one, other wise they are pissing away money. I think they'll be looking at maybe a Colt Brennan in Rd 3. In that case, Buffalo never should have gotten JP b'cse we really couldn't protect him - nor Drew Bledsoe for that matter or Rob Johnson or Flutie...or any QB since Jim Kelly's line was retired. You can still get serviceable Olinemen (especially guards) in the 2nd and 3rd rds and occasionally, you may get lucky and get a great OT even lower (see Jason Peters)


Understandable about Clady and Baker :up:


I got Jenkins 3rd or 4th, Cason's speed is not as bad people think if he clocks in the 4.45-4.5 range he'll be the top CB taken bc he is the most physical. Perhaps if he shows that speed, but I'm thinking 4.5 might be the top speed he shows...


I get your logic from Detroit but Woodson need alot of work still, I dont know that he's any further along then Stanton at this point. Woodson might have the better future overall though once he develops...


Could be better yes, but they need OL help, and RB I get the impression that they are trying to build a sick defense - which is why I went toward their secondary.


Im pretty sure its Morris's job when Alexander goes bye bye and he has filled in quite nicely, they'll need a backup but Im not sure Stewart would be ok with that. I'm not that high on Morris. He's a good backup. That's it.


Yes Edwards does but keep in mind behind him is UT Pass Rush specialist Brian Robinson, and James is still around. Again, cover 2 systems are predicated on Dline effectiveness. It can never hurt to have good pass rushing DEs - something we would be focused on if the FO hadn't spent so much on Kelsay!!!

[Mahdi]

Few comments-
Atlanta-Wont go QB in Rd 1 or 2 imo, they cant protect one so why invest it, GM Rich McKay said the same pretty much this week, thats why I say Long
Kansas City-You got Clady overtaking Baker?
Arizona-You think Mike Jenkins is the top CB in the class?
Detroit-Are they giving up on Drew Stanton already?
Houston-Dunta Robinson and Hutchings make a good combo
Minnesotta-Udeze and Edwards each have 5 sacks and they have adequate depth
Seattle-They take Stewart to sit behind Alexander and Morris?
Keith Rivers-Falling like a rock, you see that?
Reggie Smith-Wont leave unless he's a top 15 pick
Pittsburgh-Bruce Davis is a 3-4 hybrid LB/DE you think they'll use him like that?
Dallas-Jordy Nelson, awesome pick
Actually I definitely see Minnesota taking a DE in round 1 if they dont sign one in FA. Their whole problem defensively is that no one will run on them so teams pass on them all day instead, and they do it because Minnesota has no pass rush from the DEs which is forcing them to blitz way too often and leave gaps in coverage. A pass rushing DE would do wonders for Minnesota who have great athletes at LB and in the secondary to benefit from it. Then again they have been burned twice by drafting DE in the first round so maybe they solve that issue in FA. If not... Gholston or Jackson would be good picks.

[Dr. Lecter]

Atlanta should get their QB of the future while they have a high pick. Or else they'll be stuck like us w/mediocre QBs. You can always get serviceable linemen in later rds, but good QBs in later rds are rare!


They can take one next year too, as they are not exactly winning the Super Bowl anytime soon.

Regardless, lets look at the top 5-10 QBs in the NFL right now to test that theory.

Brady - 6th round
P. Manning - 1st round, 1st overall
T. Romo - UDFA
B. Favre - 2nd Round
Rothlesberger - 1st round, 11 overall
Drew Brees - 2nd round
Derek Anderson - 6th round
Carson Palmer -1st round, 1st overall
Matt Hasselbeck - 6th round (?)

Of the nine listed, only 3 were high first round picks.

Good QBs are found all over the place.

[DraftBoy]

Actually I definitely see Minnesota taking a DE in round 1 if they dont sign one in FA. Their whole problem defensively is that no one will run on them so teams pass on them all day instead, and they do it because Minnesota has no pass rush from the DEs which is forcing them to blitz way too often and leave gaps in coverage. A pass rushing DE would do wonders for Minnesota who have great athletes at LB and in the secondary to benefit from it. Then again they have been burned twice by drafting DE in the first round so maybe they solve that issue in FA. If not... Gholston or Jackson would be good picks.


Could they use a pass rushing DE? Yes, but I dont see that as their main need, they got nobody opposite Winfield who is aging himself. Their issue isnt lack of a pass rush its lack of capable cover guys. Sharper is getting older at FS too. Griffin was supposed to come in and be a shut down guy but he has been anything but only 2 INT's in 2 years. He's good tackler but they need a shutdown CB before they take a DE, imo.

[Dr. Lecter]

Thought Clark was a FA, I was wrong, it will be changed for the next mock

JP for Clark anyone?

Just throwing it out there.

[DraftBoy]

JP for Clark anyone?

Just throwing it out there.

Pass

[Dr. Lecter]

Really?

I would take Clark over a 4th round pick.

[mysticsoto]

Could they use a pass rushing DE? Yes, but I dont see that as their main need, they got nobody opposite Winfield who is aging himself. Their issue isnt lack of a pass rush its lack of capable cover guys. Sharper is getting older at FS too. Griffin was supposed to come in and be a shut down guy but he has been anything but only 2 INT's in 2 years. He's good tackler but they need a shutdown CB before they take a DE, imo.

Minnesota plays a cover 2. They don't need shutdown CBs. This draft is pretty good with speedy CBs and they can afford to wait until 3rd rd.

[mysticsoto]

Really?

I would take Clark over a 4th round pick.
I'd take it too!

Edit: Sorry, for a second I thought you were talking about Dallas Clark. Desmond Clark does nothing for me. He represents more of the same of what we have already at TE...

[DraftBoy]

Really?

I would take Clark over a 4th round pick.
Im very selective on the type of TE I think we need and I want. Im of the belief that we need a KII, Vernon Davis type who can stretch the field, out leap safeties and cause immediate match up issues. Clark doesnt fit that mold and Id almost always take the pick over the player but thats bc I always think I can draft a better player though.

[DraftBoy]

Minnesota plays a cover 2. They don't need shutdown CBs. This draft is pretty good with speedy CBs and they can afford to wait until 3rd rd.

You still need CB's who can pick the ball off, Im so tired of this argument, you dont need shutdown guys but you need guys who will make plays.

[Dr. Lecter]

Im very selective on the type of TE I think we need and I want. Im of the belief that we need a KII, Vernon Davis type who can stretch the field, out leap safeties and cause immediate match up issues. Clark doesnt fit that mold and Id almost always take the pick over the player but thats bc I always think I can draft a better player though.

Those TEs are few and far between. Of course I would take one like that too, but which ones are out there?

Clarks career numbers are 100X better than Royal's or Gaines.

[mysticsoto]

They can take one next year too, as they are not exactly winning the Super Bowl anytime soon.

Regardless, lets look at the top 5-10 QBs in the NFL right now to test that theory.

Brady - 6th round
P. Manning - 1st round, 1st overall
T. Romo - UDFA
B. Favre - 2nd Round
Rothlesberger - 1st round, 11 overall
Drew Brees - 2nd round
Derek Anderson - 6th round
Carson Palmer -1st round, 1st overall
Matt Hasselbeck - 6th round (?)

Of the nine listed, only 3 were high first round picks.

Good QBs are found all over the place.

Yes, but giving that QBs take time to mold, and the importance of the position, you want to start with one and then fill in the other positions. What's wrong with grabbing a top 5 guard in the 3rd rd and atleast shoring up the interior of the line for protection? Meanwhile, your QB is learning terminology, getting acquainted with the speed of the NFL, etc. Almost nobody builds their Oline up 1st, and then brings in the QB to benefit from that Oline...

[Dr. Lecter]

Yes, but giving that QBs take time to mold, and the importance of the position, you want to start with one and then fill in the other positions. What's wrong with grabbing a top 5 guard in the 3rd rd and atleast shoring up the interior of the line for protection? Meanwhile, your QB is learning terminology, getting acquainted with the speed of the NFL, etc. Almost nobody builds their Oline up 1st, and then brings in the QB to benefit from that Oline...

Why not do both and find a QB in a later round? Take a top O-lineman early and then find a QB? Or fill another need in that spot (since Atlanta has tons of needs)

Besides, that is not what you said originally.

Admit that I am awesome and we can move on. :D

[DraftBoy]

Those TEs are few and far between. Of course I would take one like that too, but which ones are out there?

Clarks career numbers are 100X better than Royal's or Gaines.

TE's in the mold I like;
Martin Rucker
Martellus Bennett
Travis Beckum
Kellen Davis

[DraftBoy]

Why not do both and find a QB in a later round? Take a top O-lineman early and then find a QB? Or fill another need in that spot (since Atlanta has tons of needs)

Besides, that is not what you said originally.

Admit that I am awesome and we can move on. :D


Haha

[Dr. Lecter]

TE's in the mold I like;
Martin Rucker
Martellus Bennett
Travis Beckum
Kellen Davis

That is fine and you know more about these guys than I do, but there are enough needs that some will be filled with vets.

Find a veteran TE and then draft to fill other needs.

[mysticsoto]

Why not do both and find a QB in a later round? Take a top O-lineman early and then find a QB? Or fill another need in that spot (since Atlanta has tons of needs)

Besides, that is not what you said originally.

Admit that I am awesome and we can move on. :D

I won't say your awesome...but I'll say you're the Master (bater). :D

[DraftBoy]

That is fine and you know more about these guys than I do, but there are enough needs that some will be filled with vets.

Find a veteran TE and then draft to fill other needs.
I disagree but I always do :D

[mysticsoto]

That is fine and you know more about these guys than I do, but there are enough needs that some will be filled with vets.

Find a veteran TE and then draft to fill other needs.

My draft doesn't take into consideration what "MIGHT" be done in FA. I don't think DB's draft does either. It would become too complex to start listing all the variables beforehand...

[justasportsfan]

It would become too complex to start listing all the variables beforehand...
slacker.

[DraftBoy]

My draft doesn't take into consideration what "MIGHT" be done in FA. I don't think DB's draft does either. It would become too complex to start listing all the variables beforehand...
God no, Im doing this while working, I waste time enough but dont have that much time.

[Oaf]

WIN out SAN FRaN! :pray:

Seattle taking Woodson? With Hasselbeck's consistent solid, not spectacular play?

[DraftBoy]

WIN out SAN FRaN! :pray:

Seattle taking Woodson? With Hasselbeck's consistent solid, not spectacular play?


He's getting older Woodson would have time to polish his skills and learn from one of the best.

[Bmax]

Evan Moore the WR from Stanford a good convert to TE....2nd day guy.....High character good athlete....COULD BE A GOOD 5TH OR 6TH RD PICK...

Mike Peterson-HB-TE-NW Missouri ST...2nd day 4th- 5th rd saw him play in D 2 CHAMPIONSHIP GAME ...25 YEARS OLD....

Jason Jones-Eastern Mich....DE 2nd day rd 3-OR 4 gonna need a guy if hargrove leaves...Ryan Neil can't cut it...

1st rd Jenkins-CB or Kelly-WR...Bills won't pick Bowman past of smoking weed might just be too risky for some teams....

Rd2 ..LB no way....Hope Rucker slips ...i doubt it ....Lowery cb,Bryant DT,Moore maryland -DT..Big guys always find a way to move up in the draft ....I love Balmer ..But i got him going in the bottom of rd 1 or top of rd 2

TE-Rd 4 -5 or FA .....Unless Rucker is on board.....


BMAX

[Slim]

TE's in the mold I like;
Martin Rucker
Martellus Bennett
Travis Beckum
Kellen Davis

Fred Davis?

[jimbohastle51]

there is no way manningham last till the mid second round, and buffalo is not going to take a wide reciever in the first round. we all know ralph is not a big spender and there is no way lee evens will ever get a contract extension if buffalo takes a wide reciever in the first round. when teams draft a skill position in the first round it is a starter not a number 2. if it happened lees days in buffalo are numbered. but who knows the way we usually treat our vets his days are probably numbered anyways LOL! after all he was a donahoe pick.

[jimbohastle51]

i would love to see buffalo draft chris long DE out of virginia or dan connor LB out of penn state first round (connor and poz were nasty together in college).
round 2 if limas sweed WR texas (injuries last year could easily drop him to mid second round, if not package one of our 2 3rds and our 2nd to move up and grad him)
round 3 depending on weather we trade up or not we could get the opposite of what we dont go after in the first round either an OLB like ali highsmith lsu or dt/de like quinten groves auburn or sedrick ellis usc
round 4 and our second 3rd depending on trading up would be perfect to look for a TE because there are really no explosive TEs in this years draft class. but if not TE we could always look for a 2nd qb if we dont go the vetern route to sit behind edwards like a joe flacco out of delaware (he is a stud)
i think if in the second round we will get our WR and hopefully it is a stud like sweed or dj hall and we dont have to trade up for him.

[The Jokeman]

He's getting older Woodson would have time to polish his skills and learn from one of the best.
I suppose you think Seneca Wallace is going to sign elsewhere as an UFA? Not that I believe he has a legitimate future in the NFL as a QB but do know Holmgren likes him.

[DraftBoy]

I suppose you think Seneca Wallace is going to sign elsewhere as an UFA? Not that I believe he has a legitimate future in the NFL as a QB but do know Holmgren likes him.


Yea Im aware that Holmgren has a man crush on him, but like you I dont see him as a legitimate NFL QB

[Dr. Lecter]

there is no way manningham last till the mid second round, and buffalo is not going to take a wide reciever in the first round. we all know ralph is not a big spender and there is no way lee evens will ever get a contract extension if buffalo takes a wide reciever in the first round. when teams draft a skill position in the first round it is a starter not a number 2. if it happened lees days in buffalo are numbered. but who knows the way we usually treat our vets his days are probably numbered anyways LOL! after all he was a donahoe pick.

The "Ralph is not a big spender" theory has been disproven numerous times.

[mysticsoto]

i would love to see buffalo draft chris long DE out of virginia or dan connor LB out of penn state first round (connor and poz were nasty together in college).
round 2 if limas sweed WR texas (injuries last year could easily drop him to mid second round, if not package one of our 2 3rds and our 2nd to move up and grad him)
round 3 depending on weather we trade up or not we could get the opposite of what we dont go after in the first round either an OLB like ali highsmith lsu or dt/de like quinten groves auburn or sedrick ellis usc
round 4 and our second 3rd depending on trading up would be perfect to look for a TE because there are really no explosive TEs in this years draft class. but if not TE we could always look for a 2nd qb if we dont go the vetern route to sit behind edwards like a joe flacco out of delaware (he is a stud)
i think if in the second round we will get our WR and hopefully it is a stud like sweed or dj hall and we dont have to trade up for him.

Neither Chris Long nor Dan Connor will be available by the time Buffalo picks. Sedrick Ellis??? He's a projected 1st rounder = there's extreme little probability that he drops to the 3rd...hell,if he drops to our 1st rd pick, we should grab him!!!

[mysticsoto]

You still need CB's who can pick the ball off, Im so tired of this argument, you dont need shutdown guys but you need guys who will make plays.

All true, but the 1st CBs that go are usually ones that are great at man to man. Cover 2 CBs don't have to be great at man to man which requires speed, athleticness, toughness, etc. Cover 2 need speed and ideally, decent hands. The 1st rd CBs need to have it all. Cover 2 CBs don't need to have it all b'cse they depend on the front 4 to rush the QB and create hurries, mistakes, etc for them to capitalize on.

But you know all this, so I don't know why I'm telling you other than to rationalize why Minnesota can afford to wait until the 2nd or even 3rd rd...

[DraftBoy]

there is no way manningham last till the mid second round, and buffalo is not going to take a wide reciever in the first round. we all know ralph is not a big spender and there is no way lee evens will ever get a contract extension if buffalo takes a wide reciever in the first round. when teams draft a skill position in the first round it is a starter not a number 2. if it happened lees days in buffalo are numbered. but who knows the way we usually treat our vets his days are probably numbered anyways LOL! after all he was a donahoe pick.

Why is it that you think Manningham wont last till Round 2? He disappeared at times this year and is still raw. He needs to put on weight and work on his routes. He's great at getting the jump ball and making amazing catches but he doesnt consistently dominate games.

[DraftBoy]

Fred Davis?


Doesnt fit that mold, he's not going to burn anybody deep with his 4.6-4.7 speed, he's not going to outjump many safeties, he's a good pass catching TE but he's not in the K2, Vernon Davis mold.

[DraftBoy]

All true, but the 1st CBs that go are usually ones that are great at man to man. Cover 2 CBs don't have to be great at man to man which requires speed, athleticness, toughness, etc. Cover 2 need speed and ideally, decent hands. The 1st rd CBs need to have it all. Cover 2 CBs don't need to have it all b'cse they depend on the front 4 to rush the QB and create hurries, mistakes, etc for them to capitalize on.

But you know all this, so I don't know why I'm telling you other than to rationalize why Minnesota can afford to wait until the 2nd or even 3rd rd...

I know what the "theory" is behind the Cover 2, but that doesn't mean the blueprint is an exact science we both know that there are issues with it. Winfield is not a Cover 2 CB, he is a man to man guy, he's physical and he's a good cover corner, and has the speed to run with alot of WR's. You can use guys like that in the Cover 2 and be successful, Tampa did it for years. Barber and Kelly were two of the most underrated CB's in coverage during their hey day.

[mysticsoto]

I know what the "theory" is behind the Cover 2, but that doesn't mean the blueprint is an exact science we both know that there are issues with it. Winfield is not a Cover 2 CB, he is a man to man guy, he's physical and he's a good cover corner, and has the speed to run with alot of WR's. You can use guys like that in the Cover 2 and be successful, Tampa did it for years. Barber and Kelly were two of the most underrated CB's in coverage during their hey day.

Sure you can use man to man CBs in a cover 2...cover 2 is easier. Protect your zone and if you get a chance, come down with the ball if it's thrown your way. You don't have to keep up with a receiver step by step, muscling for position, etc. Winfield has done okay, and I'm sure that Minn would like more interceptions from him, but it still doesn't mean that they can't afford to wait until the 3rd rd and still get a speedy guy. In the meantime, they need to keep in mind that Pat Williams is getting older, Edwards has off the field issues, and Udeze is doing ok *THIS* year, but has been inconsistent across the years. I don't see it as a stretch for them to go Dline.

We may have to agree to disagree here...

[Ickybaluky]

I suppose you think Seneca Wallace is going to sign elsewhere as an UFA? Not that I believe he has a legitimate future in the NFL as a QB but do know Holmgren likes him.

Wallace signed a contract extension prior to this season and won't be an UFA for a while. Seattle has him under contract through 2010.

[Billzz]

I know what the "theory" is behind the Cover 2, but that doesn't mean the blueprint is an exact science we both know that there are issues with it. Winfield is not a Cover 2 CB, he is a man to man guy, he's physical and he's a good cover corner, and has the speed to run with alot of WR's. You can use guys like that in the Cover 2 and be successful, Tampa did it for years. Barber and Kelly were two of the most underrated CB's in coverage during their hey day.

Barber is still an excellent corner and you forgot about Phillips as well.

[madness]

15. Philadelphia-WR Malcolm Kelly-Oklahoma
16. New Orleans-LB Keith Rivers-USC
17. Buffalo-WR Adarius Bowman-Oklahoma State


You have got to be kidding me. If it goes down like this, it will just give me another reason to hate on the Eagles.

[DraftBoy]

Barber is still an excellent corner and you forgot about Phillips as well.

Phillips is not a great cover safety but he has come a long way since his days at UGA where he was a coverage liability.

[DraftBoy]

Sure you can use man to man CBs in a cover 2...cover 2 is easier. Protect your zone and if you get a chance, come down with the ball if it's thrown your way. You don't have to keep up with a receiver step by step, muscling for position, etc. Winfield has done okay, and I'm sure that Minn would like more interceptions from him, but it still doesn't mean that they can't afford to wait until the 3rd rd and still get a speedy guy. In the meantime, they need to keep in mind that Pat Williams is getting older, Edwards has off the field issues, and Udeze is doing ok *THIS* year, but has been inconsistent across the years. I don't see it as a stretch for them to go Dline.

We may have to agree to disagree here...

I agree I think we will have to, I see your point but I dont completely agree with it

[mysticsoto]

I like most of your draft... I would make a few changes though....

Denver- theres no way they go WR. They are in excellent shape with their wr corps-- they have 2 #1 WRs with Brandon Marshall and Javon Walker and then they have Stokely who they just extended to a long term deal. Plus they also have 2 good TEs in Scheffler and Grahame. They are set with their receiving corps.



By the way, to address your Denver/WR point, Brandon Marshall has looked good as of late, but there are issues there that need to be resolved if he can't get along with the receivers coach...I'm sure Denver would like nothing better than to develop another top WR and use Brandon as possible trade bait...

ProFootballTalk.com is reporting that Brandon Marshall and receivers coach Jeremy Bates got into a "verbal altercation" on Monday.
Marshall is one of Rotoworld's favorite receivers heading into next season, but his off-field antics continue to be a concern. He has admitted to initiating contact with the group suspected of shooting teammate Darrent Williams, and also was arrested for DUI this season.

[DraftBoy]

They also need a true speed based game break imo