The Official OC Candidate List [Archive] - BillsZone.com

The Jokeman

12-19-2007, 01:13 AM

Walt Harris. He coached TE at Stanford and considered a very good coach when it comes to QBs. Throw in an added bonus that he might convince Marv to go after Antonio Bryant who could be a steal in free agency.

yordad

12-19-2007, 01:40 AM

My dream coordinator would be Mike Martz. Followed by Jason Garrett. I think these guys know how to make the best of the personal. As opposed to implementing a system, and finding the players to suit it.

But, a guy I respect says keep an eye on this guy....

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Hue Jackson
Offensive coordinator; born Oct. 22, 1965, Los Angeles. Quarterback Pacific 1985-86. No pro playing experience. College coach: Pacific 1987-89, Cal State-Fullerton 1990, Arizona State 1992-95, California 1996, Southern California 1997-2000. Pro coach: London Monarchs (WFL) 1991, Washington Redskins 2001-03, Cincinnati Bengals 2004-06, joined Falcons in 2007.

BADTHINGSMAN

12-19-2007, 02:45 AM

LtFinFan66

12-19-2007, 04:23 AM

No way you get Garrett unless he is head coach

shelby

12-19-2007, 04:27 AM

What about promoting from within?
Alex Van Pelt!

Carlton Bailey

12-19-2007, 04:40 AM

http://cache.colts.com/sub.cfm?page=coachbio&coach_id=19

Kerr

12-19-2007, 06:47 AM

Jim Caldwell :up:

THE END OF ALL DAYS

12-19-2007, 07:15 AM

No Matter who we get, after 3 games we'll be trying to run him out of town. When was the last OC for the bills that was successful?

I am not too optimistic about anyone untill we get a DEFENSE that can get off the field on 3rd and LOOOOOOOOONG!

bigbub2352

12-19-2007, 08:28 AM

i think our conservative approach to coaches will keep it within with either Turk Schonert or AVP, probably Schonert then AVP gets promoted to QB coach

Michael82

12-19-2007, 09:01 AM

I'll stick with Turk Schonert. He's done a good job as a QB coach throughout the years and has a bunch of experience. Plus you don't have to change too much of the system.

Billzz

12-19-2007, 09:34 AM

Problem being is the Bills FO dosen't even know who they are going to choose at this point.

I almost feel like it will be some obscure person that we all may or may not of heard of. Some quality candidate that we probably never even thought of because of being fans sitting on the outside looking in.

Bills Juggernaut

12-19-2007, 09:50 AM

I'll stick with Turk Schonert. He's done a good job as a QB coach throughout the years and has a bunch of experience. Plus you don't have to change too much of the system.

I don't understand why some of you are so high on staying with the system. This system stinks and all of the numbers prove it. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
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Michael82

12-19-2007, 10:24 AM

I don't understand why some of you are so high on staying with the system. This system stinks and all of the numbers prove it. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
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It's like saying lets hire the second in charge engineer who help build the Titanic because he's familiar with the style of boat.<o:p></o:p>
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Why get someone, based mostly on his familiarity with the current system, whose familiarity is based on a offensive system that is crap? <o:p></o:p>
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I want someone with new ideas. <o:p></o:p>
He might have new ideas. You never know. The better thing is. I'd stick with Schonert because he knows the players and can keep things easier for them, so it isn't like we are getting a whole new playbook to learn, which takes time.

billsburgh

12-19-2007, 10:26 AM

Joe Pendry

RockStar36

12-19-2007, 10:26 AM

Jim Kelly

justasportsfan

12-19-2007, 10:27 AM

What about promoting from within?
Alex Van Pelt!

He's as unproven as Moolarkey and Fairchild. Maybe we'll finally strike gold with him this time but if not, we just made the same mistakes we did with hiring the 2 prior unproven OC's.

I'd be worried about AVP but MArv knows AVP more than anyone of us here. I trust Marv if he does think AVP is ready.

MY choices would be either MArtz and Chow. Both unavailable , I think.

trapezeus

12-19-2007, 10:30 AM

My vote is for Kevin Shenoy. Yes, i'm voting for myself. seeing that fairchild brought this junky system to the NFL, i'm not sure that i couldn't at the very least replicate the exact same thing.

Billzz

12-19-2007, 10:34 AM

I don't understand why some of you are so high on staying with the system. This system stinks and all of the numbers prove it. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
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It's like saying lets hire the second in charge engineer who help build the Titanic because he's familiar with the style of boat.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Why get someone, based mostly on his familiarity with the current system, whose familiarity is based on a offensive system that is crap? <o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
I want someone with new ideas. <o:p></o:p>

There is alot to do with the QB switch that has to do with the system. Jp might of been overloaded in the off season expecting more from him and the way he ended last year and just couldn't do it. The more then likely dumbed it down for TE when he came in cause he was a rookie. I don't think "The System" has really been used to it's full degree because of these circumstances.

DraftBoy

12-19-2007, 10:36 AM

Im voting for Urban Meyer

Billzz

12-19-2007, 12:31 PM

Im voting for Urban Meyer

Never happen

DraftBoy

12-19-2007, 12:50 PM

Yea I know I was kidding, I figured if we are throwing out random names why not shoot for the sky.

Billzz

12-19-2007, 01:09 PM

Yea I know I was kidding, I figured if we are throwing out random names why not shoot for the sky.

lol np. Even if he was available though would you really want him here? Assuming he took about a 1.5 mil pay decrease and left one of the biggest college programs in America ofcourse.

Don't think the spread and the NFL work on a constant basis. Nice in certain situations but not the bread and butter of it anyway IMO.

DynaPaul

12-19-2007, 06:27 PM

I have my choice narrowed down to 2 candidates: Marty Schottenheimer or whatever 12 year old kid wins this year's Madden Challenge.

PECKERWOOD

12-19-2007, 06:34 PM

I don't think that the system was the problem, it was the playcalling. So often we would pass the ball on 3rd and short and then run it on 3rd and long, it made no sense at times.

shelby

12-19-2007, 07:27 PM

My vote is for Kevin Shenoy. Yes, i'm voting for myself. seeing that fairchild brought this junky system to the NFL, i'm not sure that i couldn't at the very least replicate the exact same thing.

i had no idea you were Kevin Shenoy.
i really enjoy your articles!

Kerr

12-19-2007, 07:59 PM

Chan Gailey...he available?

colin

12-19-2007, 08:26 PM

justa might be right on with norm chow.

usc guy, knows how to really get a running team going, but is a wco guru as well who can IMO get trent into the best position for him.

a guy like him will bring in a big play WR, use the running back, and want a C upgrade (the wco is a C's dream, pulling and lots of calls, and you out smart and out maneuver big interior linemen instead of just stacking them up every play).

an O like that moving around whoever our new TE/WR is and evans, along with passes to backs will really keep the D even (as opposed to stacked) and off balance. now mix in a couple quick plays to roscoe and our O could really hurt people.

ParanoidAndroid

12-19-2007, 10:52 PM

The return of Ted Marchibroda!

njsue

12-19-2007, 10:54 PM

What about promoting from within?
Alex Van Pelt!

Would be great to see the Dough Boy back on the sidelines!

njsue

12-19-2007, 10:57 PM

Norv Turner if he got canned from San Diego.

jamze132

12-20-2007, 04:18 AM

Mike Mularkey anyone?

j/k

HAMMER

12-20-2007, 01:02 PM

Jim Kelly

Suuuure, let's hire someone with zero coaching experience, that's brilliant.

Typ0

12-20-2007, 01:24 PM

Norv Turner
Ted Marchibroda
Marty Shottenheimer

Bring in a guy we know knows what he's doing...

Mr. Pink

12-20-2007, 01:34 PM

Bill Callahan!

Mahdi

12-20-2007, 01:37 PM

Norv Turner
Ted Marchibroda
Marty Shottenheimer

Bring in a guy we know knows what he's doing...
Teams will be lining up to get Shottenheimer as a HC.... why would he pick Buffalo to be an OC?

Typ0

12-20-2007, 01:50 PM

Teams will be lining up to get Shottenheimer as a HC.... why would he pick Buffalo to be an OC?

well...you really never know what people are thinking. I can honestly say that someone might not want to be a HC for a period of time...but they would still want to get paid well and that's where I think our organization falls off the earth on getting any really good coaches outside of just getting lucky and someone overperforming.

Kerr

12-20-2007, 01:51 PM

Scratch Norv out. He's getting SD on a roll.

Schonert
Gailey
Caldwell
Callahan

are the obvious choices...

TigerJ

12-20-2007, 11:30 PM

I don't think that the system was the problem, it was the playcalling. So often we would pass the ball on 3rd and short and then run it on 3rd and long, it made no sense at times.

Agreed. Fairchild's system was fine. He overcompensated for the fact that he had young inexperienced QBs and tried to protect them with an oversimplified game plan. I think in the end it handcuffed them more than protected them. Give Fairchild an experienced QB and I think he's pretty creative.

TigerJ

12-20-2007, 11:31 PM

Turk Schonert
Cam Cameron

Jaybird

12-20-2007, 11:43 PM

After the signing of the BIG TUNA i would be very surprised if he didn't get 'his guy' as head coach.

Leading Cam Cameron an experienced OC, and the next OC of the BILLS