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League is planning on CBA after 2008?

12-29-2007, 03:02 PM

Clayton: Resolutions review

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=3172499

The NFL should be headed for a happy New Year, as trends and story lines developed that made the game more intriguing this season. But in his review of 2007, John Clayton writes there is one scary prospect looming.

One resolution doesn't appear to be changing, and that's scary. The league held a salary cap seminar recently and the feeling is the NFL owners plan to blow up the current collective bargaining agreement after the 2008 season. That's disturbing. The league needs labor peace. While the strategy is just a negotiating tool, the NFL can't slip back into the threats of strikes and non-salary cap years as it had in the 1970s and 1980s. The NFL has a great game now. It doesn't need to go back into the Dark Ages.

The only reason I see they would is some owners are already busting cap (i.e. Washington) and they see no reason why they can not increase amount of money they pay to baseball levels even if most of teams can not.
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12-29-2007, 03:04 PM

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The last agreement was terrible...Some knew at the time, apparently others are catching on.

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12-29-2007, 03:15 PM

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I think there is way too much money off the table and rookies get far too much guaranteed.
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12-29-2007, 03:15 PM

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maybe RW was right in the end.

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12-29-2007, 05:28 PM

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The only thing I hate is that rookies are getting millions. They should have to prove their worth first.
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12-29-2007, 05:31 PM

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Originally posted by Ebenezer

maybe RW was right in the end.

Really?

I had that figured out 2 weeks after it was signed.

Ralph is sharper than the rest of teh NFL comibined, even at his age.

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Lecter is right in everything he said.
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12-29-2007, 05:31 PM

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1st rounders still deserve to get paid but probably half of what they get right now.

guys in 3rd-7th round deserve minimum deals maybe a bit more
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12-29-2007, 05:40 PM

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Originally posted by djjimkelly

1st rounders still deserve to get paid but probably half of what they get right now.

guys in 3rd-7th round deserve minimum deals maybe a bit more

Not that I disagree with you, but cut the allocation for signing draft picks and the likely result is that rookie high draft picks will hold out in much greater numbers as their agents attempt to negotiate shorter contracts. If owners play hardball, I can see agents heading to congress complaining about the NFL's antitrust exemption. I'm not sure the league really wants to go there.

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12-29-2007, 07:35 PM

Re: League is planning on CBA after 2008?

Originally posted by Dr.Lecter

Really?

I had that figured out 2 weeks after it was signed.

Ralph is sharper than the rest of teh NFL comibined, even at his age.

Exactly. It was apparent after reading the specs of the new CBA that the owners panicked at the 11th hour because they didn't want to have to cut players. I guarantee you that IF the Cowboys, Redskins, and Pats weren't all near the cap, the deal wouldn't have been done. What got me was them caving and giving the players 59.5% of total revenue (down just 0.5% from what the NFLPA was asking), while the owners were holding-fast at 54.5%.

Among the owners that voted "yes," Al Davis put it best/truthfully when he said "this brings labor peace," which it did...for a couple years. The NFLPA has vowed that IF this new CBA is scuttled at the first chance/"opt-out period" (after the 2008 season), they won't agree to a salary cap again.

Congrats to the "brightest business minds" that crafted this CBA.
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12-29-2007, 07:41 PM

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This is how the rookies should get paid......

By Escalation like the top pick gets 3M or whatever total and then work your way down. No negotiations. EXACT amount depending on where your picked PERIOD!
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12-29-2007, 07:56 PM

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The NBA has max rookie contracts regardless of where you are picked. Check and see how much #1 overall pick Greg Oden is making this season.
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12-29-2007, 08:19 PM

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It's unconscionable that a top-5 pick makes more money than more established, sometimes Pro Bowl, players. Again another thing in the NFL's infinite wisdom that they DIDN'T fix.
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12-29-2007, 08:57 PM

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You can't have top 5 picks making 30 million dollars guaranteed. It screws up the entire salary cap.

Russell not starting this year is a joke. 30 million and you might suck worse than Ryan Leaf.
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12-29-2007, 10:30 PM

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No salary cap = No Buffalo Bills
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12-29-2007, 10:39 PM

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The NFL really should be careful because the product is so watered down and boring that this is honestly the first time I might not care if they went on strike.

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