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  • shelby
    The Vanilla *****
    • Jul 2002
    • 48489

    No shake-up in the works

    The Buffalo Bills embarked Monday on another offseason of change.
    The likeliest scenario is it will be change with a lower case “C.”
    The Bills need to reorganize their front office in the wake of Monday’s resignation of Marv Levy as general manager. They have a big change coming on their coaching staff due to the departure of offensive coordinator Steve Fairchild, the new head coach at Colorado State University.
    History and the strong position of head coach Dick Jauron suggest the Bills will not strike off in a bold, new direction in filling the shoes of Levy.
    The Bills have gone outside the organization in hiring a general manager just once in their 48-year history. That was when Tom Donahoe was hired in 2001. Bills owner Ralph C. Wilson Jr. still has a foul taste in his mouth over how that five-year tenure finished. There virtually is no chance the Bills will make an outsider “king” of the organization and give him sweeping powers over all departments.
    Furthermore, the Bills are certain to be careful to ensure that the frontoffice remains figuratively joined at the hip with Jauron. The Bills have finished 7-9 in both of Jauron’s seasons. He is held in high regard by Wilson, the members of the Bills’ administration and the players.
    If the Bills hired a new general manager from outside the organization with full control of the football department, there is a risk that person would want to bring in his own man as coach. That’s precisely what happened to Jauron during his first head-coaching stint in Chicago, when the general manager who hired Jauron was ousted two years into his coaching tenure.
    That doesn’t mean an outsider could not take the reins this time, but he would have to meet Jauron’s full approval. The Bills believe they built good organizational trust between the front office, scouting and coaching departments the past two years, and they will not want to lessen Jauron’s security.
    As Levy departs, Jauron seems secure as Bills’ coach

  • Nighthawk
    Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
    • Jul 2002
    • 15437

    #2
    Re: No shake-up in the works

    Very bad news for this organization. Status quo and more losing seasons on the way. I just don't understand the acceptance of mediocrity of Bills fans? Oh well...what can you do.

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    • Night Train
      Retired - On Several Levels
      • Jul 2005
      • 33117

      #3
      Re: No shake-up in the works

      Originally posted by Nighthawk
      Very bad news for this organization. Status quo and more losing seasons on the way. I just don't understand the acceptance of mediocrity of Bills fans? Oh well...what can you do.
      Why even bring up the fans ? That's like blaming spoons for being fat.

      We all know the score with Ralph. Stick to the subject.
      Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

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      • Nighthawk
        Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
        • Jul 2002
        • 15437

        #4
        Re: No shake-up in the works

        Originally posted by Night Train
        Why even bring up the fans ? That's like blaming spoons for being fat.

        We all know the score with Ralph. Stick to the subject.
        I bring up the fans because of the continued support of mediocrity. It is a valid and pertinent fact that is relevant to the subject.

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        • Night Train
          Retired - On Several Levels
          • Jul 2005
          • 33117

          #5
          Re: No shake-up in the works

          Originally posted by Nighthawk
          I bring up the fans because of the continued support of mediocrity. It is a valid and pertinent fact that is relevant to the subject.
          So all ticket paying customers are part of the problem ? You never pay for a ticket or buy any Bills merchandise ? If so, those who do are fools ?
          Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

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          • Nighthawk
            Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
            • Jul 2002
            • 15437

            #6
            Re: No shake-up in the works

            Originally posted by Night Train
            So all ticket paying customers are part of the problem ? You never pay for a ticket or buy any Bills merchandise ? If so, those who do are fools ?
            No, no...but to not voice displeasure is to accept mediocrity. A lot of fans on here just seem to accept that Dickey is doing a great job, when, if you look at the numbers...HE'S NOT! Further evidence can be had if you go back and do research into when he held the HC position at Chicago. Everybody and I mean everybody, seems to think that Fairchild was the problem. Well, guess what??? He's wasn't! Every team Dickey has run has been horrible on the offensive side of the ball and most of this can be attributed to him coaching scared! I don't just say things to hear myself talk...these are facts and I don't feel we have any hope of winning anything with this guy. Also, now that it seems that there is a chance he gets more power because of Marv leaving, I feel even less optimistic that this team will win anything in the near future. Not going outside of the organization for a GM who is in tune with today's NFL and has some connections with what is going on in the league will again set this team back for years. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think so.

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            • Night Train
              Retired - On Several Levels
              • Jul 2005
              • 33117

              #7
              Re: No shake-up in the works

              Originally posted by Nighthawk
              No, no...but to not voice displeasure is to accept mediocrity. A lot of fans on here just seem to accept that Dickey is doing a great job, when, if you look at the numbers...HE'S NOT! Further evidence can be had if you go back and do research into when he held the HC position at Chicago. Everybody and I mean everybody, seems to think that Fairchild was the problem. Well, guess what??? He's wasn't! Every team Dickey has run has been horrible on the offensive side of the ball and most of this can be attributed to him coaching scared! I don't just say things to hear myself talk...these are facts and I don't feel we have any hope of winning anything with this guy. Also, now that it seems that there is a chance he gets more power because of Marv leaving, I feel even less optimistic that this team will win anything in the near future. Not going outside of the organization for a GM who is in tune with today's NFL and has some connections with what is going on in the league will again set this team back for years. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think so.
              Ok, just checking. I can't disagree with much of that.

              I thought Jauron was a bad hire. The schemes we run on both sides of the ball prove that out. He's organized but lacks the footabll instincts once the game starts. 20 TD's total on Offense and a D that gets steamrolled in the running game eqauls a long way to go. I can only hope the OC hire has vision and a realization of a small DL means more size in the middle is a crying need.

              The capper was the post game blurb from Jauron this past Sunday. " I thought our Offense did a good job. They didn't turn it over " . Just an incredible statement to be quoted on.
              Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

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              • Johnny Bugmenot
                Will not tolerate vandalism.
                • Apr 2006
                • 4311

                #8
                Re: No shake-up in the works

                Originally posted by Night Train
                So all ticket paying customers are part of the problem ? You never pay for a ticket or buy any Bills merchandise ? If so, those who do are fools ?
                Yes.

                Let him run a team on the fat welfare-- I mean, revenue sharing-- check he gets from the league every year.

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                • THE END OF ALL DAYS
                  The Allen Era has begun.... no looking back now, come hell or high water!
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 4525

                  #9
                  Re: No shake-up in the works

                  Status Quo for the bills now means boring and dull and loosing alot.

                  C'mon! Shake it up a bit and lets light a fire under this organization~
                  In my day we did not have self-esteem... we had self-respect, and no more of it then we earned.

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                  • YardRat
                    Well, lookie here...
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 86315

                    #10
                    Re: No shake-up in the works

                    Not going outside of the organization for a GM who is in tune with today's NFL and has some connections with what is going on in the league will again set this team back for years.
                    What makes you assume whoever they may promote from within isn't 'in tune with today's NFL' and may not act accordingly?
                    YardRat Wall of Fame
                    #56 DARRYL TALLEY
                    #29 DERRICK BURROUGHS#22 FRED JACKSON #95 KYLE WILLIAMS

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                    • Nighthawk
                      Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 15437

                      #11
                      Re: No shake-up in the works

                      Originally posted by YardRat
                      What makes you assume whoever they may promote from within isn't 'in tune with today's NFL' and may not act accordingly?
                      Umm, how has this team done with them in the organization the last 10+ years? Just checking.

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                      • YardRat
                        Well, lookie here...
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 86315

                        #12
                        Re: No shake-up in the works

                        Originally posted by Nighthawk
                        Umm, how has this team done with them in the organization the last 10+ years? Just checking.
                        Umm, how many of them have been able to exert their influence over the organization under the title of general manager?
                        YardRat Wall of Fame
                        #56 DARRYL TALLEY
                        #29 DERRICK BURROUGHS#22 FRED JACKSON #95 KYLE WILLIAMS

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                        • YardRat
                          Well, lookie here...
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 86315

                          #13
                          Re: No shake-up in the works

                          BTW NightHawk...I didn't neg you, and if I ever did I would most certainly sign for it.
                          YardRat Wall of Fame
                          #56 DARRYL TALLEY
                          #29 DERRICK BURROUGHS#22 FRED JACKSON #95 KYLE WILLIAMS

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                          • colin
                            Drew's my hero!
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 2491

                            #14
                            Re: No shake-up in the works

                            i don't buy it all yet.

                            we are getting a new OC, our key players are all very young, we have a ton of cap money and 10+ picks, including 4 in the first 75 and 5 in the first 110.

                            i think we are gonna trade jp, package up picks and get 3 or 4 starters/major players in the draft (cb, dt, OG/C, wr/TE) as well as some new blood for the bench (lb, s, anyone else).

                            i also think we are gonna get the best wr and olb we can in FA. we might also nab a DT and TE.

                            having continuity, a solid O line, and getting better at nearly every position is the best position this franchise has been in in well over a decade, why go for huge changes now?

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                            • djjimkelly
                              Registered User
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 7045

                              #15
                              Re: No shake-up in the works

                              Originally posted by Nighthawk
                              Very bad news for this organization. Status quo and more losing seasons on the way. I just don't understand the acceptance of mediocrity of Bills fans? Oh well...what can you do.

                              i agree 10000000000000%

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