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BuffaloBlakely14
01-01-2008, 08:20 PM
http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm




JAURON'S JUICE ON THE RISE?

As the Buffalo Bills embark on their search for a new General Manager, it appears that coach Dick Jauron will emerge from the process with greater influence (http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/story/241070.html).

It's a far different circumstance than what Jauron faced seven years ago in Chicago. After Jerry Angelo was hired as G.M., it was an open secret in league circles that Angelo wanted to get his own coach.

A 13-3 season in 2001 delayed Angelo's plans for two additional years. Eventually, however, Jauron was out.

But Jauron has the Bills on the right track, and he already has final say over the team's personnel. He'll likely also have a strong voice in hiring of the successor to Marv Levy, who stepped down after two years on the job.

Per Mark Gaughan of the Buffalo News, Jauron's current role makes it less likely that the team will look outside of the organization for a replacement. But Gaughan throws an intriguing name into the mix -- Bears director of college scouting Greg Gabriel.

Gabriel is a Buffalo native, and he's a veteran scout who has drawn solid reviews for his work in shaping last year's NFC champs. If he's willing to defer to Jauron, and if he can convince Jauron that he's sincere in this regard, Gabriel could have a chance at the gig.

And if Gabriel is otherwise willing to not rock the front-office boat, the organization would benefit from his perspective as the 2008 draft approaches.

But if Gabriel won't be getting final say over personnel in Buffalo, the Bears would have to be willing to let him walk. And that's probably not likely to happen.

G. Host
01-01-2008, 08:21 PM
Rehash of Buffalo News story by ProFootballTrash

Nighthawk
01-01-2008, 08:31 PM
Also, can somebody please explain to me why Dickey should be getting more power? He's proven nothing, won nothing and coaches some of the most boring brand of football in the NFL. Another example (if true) of how clueless this organization is.

patmoran2006
01-01-2008, 08:36 PM
Another words.

Whomever the next GM is going to be, is basically a puppet.

Nighthawk
01-01-2008, 08:38 PM
Another words.

Whomever the next GM is going to be, is basically a puppet.

Yeah, but this team is moving in the right direction. [sarcasm]

YardRat
01-01-2008, 08:42 PM
But Jauron has the Bills on the right track, and he already has final say over the team's personnel.

Could somebody please start another thread about how terrible Marv Levy did in free agency?

Nighthawk
01-01-2008, 08:50 PM
Could somebody please start another thread about how terrible Marv Levy did in free agency?

Levy was just a figure head...Jauron is just a bad HC. It's all been said before.

ParanoidAndroid
01-01-2008, 08:54 PM
Could somebody please start another thread about how terrible Marv Levy did in free agency?

I also need to read another thread about "settling for mediocrity."

Nighthawk
01-01-2008, 08:57 PM
I also need to read another thread about "settling for mediocrity."

Oh, you'll see more if this happens...

Owen DeBoard
01-01-2008, 10:40 PM
http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm




JAURON'S JUICE ON THE RISE?




As the Buffalo Bills embark on their search for a new General Manager, it appears that coach Dick Jauron will emerge from the process with greater influence (http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/story/241070.html).



It's a far different circumstance than what Jauron faced seven years ago in Chicago. After Jerry Angelo was hired as G.M., it was an open secret in league circles that Angelo wanted to get his own coach.



A 13-3 season in 2001 delayed Angelo's plans for two additional years. Eventually, however, Jauron was out.



But Jauron has the Bills on the right track, and he already has final say over the team's personnel. He'll likely also have a strong voice in hiring of the successor to Marv Levy, who stepped down after two years on the job.



Per Mark Gaughan of the Buffalo News, Jauron's current role makes it less likely that the team will look outside of the organization for a replacement. But Gaughan throws an intriguing name into the mix -- Bears director of college scouting Greg Gabriel.



Gabriel is a Buffalo native, and he's a veteran scout who has drawn solid reviews for his work in shaping last year's NFC champs. If he's willing to defer to Jauron, and if he can convince Jauron that he's sincere in this regard, Gabriel could have a chance at the gig.



And if Gabriel is otherwise willing to not rock the front-office boat, the organization would benefit from his perspective as the 2008 draft approaches.



But if Gabriel won't be getting final say over personnel in Buffalo, the Bears would have to be willing to let him walk. And that's probably not likely to happen.

This better not happen. For one Jauron cant hire a good OC, what in the hell makes Ralph think he can hire a good GM. Also they better not bring in this clown because his drafts for the Bears have been absoulty terrible. Rex Grossman and Cedrick Benson are two horrible first round picks. The only good first round pick the bears have had in a while is Tommy Harris. Thats it.

Jeff1220
01-02-2008, 07:26 AM
His first four drafts with Chicago yielded Pro Bowl selections Lance Briggs, Nathan Vasher and Tommie Harris, named an all-star starter in just his second NFL season.

Yeah, those are some terrible draft picks :rolleyes: I doubt he had final say in anything anyway - but clearly his input was not complete crap. The only PBers Buffalo's scouting dept. has drafted in the past 4 years are...well Schobel, Peters and Moorman, but I believe they were all drafted (or brought in undrafted) more than 4 years ago. I actually like what I've read of this guy over anything in-house. Plus, it could be a good connection in bringing in someone like Briggs or Ayabendejo.

http://www.chicagobears.com/team/FrontOfficeBio.asp?front_office_id=7

madness
01-02-2008, 09:04 AM
I was interested in Gabriel two years ago. I still think he'd be a good fit.





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What does everyone think of this Greg Gabriel guy? I certainly like the idea of a Buffalo native as the GM and he's even partly responsible for the Bears success. I like him already. :up:



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Owen DeBoard
01-02-2008, 09:11 AM
Yeah, those are some terrible draft picks :rolleyes: I doubt he had final say in anything anyway - but clearly his input was not complete crap. The only PBers Buffalo's scouting dept. has drafted in the past 4 years are...well Schobel, Peters and Moorman, but I believe they were all drafted (or brought in undrafted) more than 4 years ago. I actually like what I've read of this guy over anything in-house. Plus, it could be a good connection in bringing in someone like Briggs or Ayabendejo.

http://www.chicagobears.com/team/FrontOfficeBio.asp?front_office_id=7
Are all those first round draft picks. The Bears drafts have been bad in the recent years. I know because I live in the area. Thats all the radio talk shows talk about is how bad the drafts have been.

Jeff1220
01-02-2008, 10:55 AM
Chicago Bears Draft History

2007
Rd. 1 Pick 31: Greg Olsen - TE - Miami
Rd. 2 Pick 60: Dan Bazuin - DE - Central Michigan
Rd. 3 Pick 93: Garrett Wolfe - RB - Northern Illinois
Rd. 3 Pick 94: Michael Okwo - OLB - Stanford
Rd. 4 Pick 130: Josh Beekman - OG - Boston College
Rd. 5 Pick 167: Kevin Payne - S - Lousianna Monroe
Rd. 5 Pick 168: Corey Graham - CB - New Hampshire
Rd. 7 Pick 221: Trumaine McBride - CB - Ole Miss
Rd. 7 Pick 241: Aaron Grant - OT - Iowa State


2006
Rnd Name College Note
2 Danieal Manning Abilene Christian
2 Devin Hester Miami (FL)
3 Dusty Dvoracek Oklahoma
4 Jamar Williams Arizona State
5 Mark Anderson Alabama
6 J.D. Runnels Oklahoma
6 Tyler Reed Penn State

2005
Rnd Name College Note
1 Cedric Benson Texas
2 Mark Bradley Oklahoma
4 Kyle Orton Purdue
5 Airese Currie Clemson
6 Chris Harris Louisiana-Monroe
7 Rodriques Wilson South Carolina

2004
Rnd Name College Note
1 Tommie Harris Oklahoma
2 Terry Johnson Washington
3 Bernard Berrian Fresno State
4 Nathan Vasher Texas
4 Leon Joe Maryland
5 Claude Harriott Pittsburgh
5 Craig Krenzel Ohio State
7 Alfonso Marshall Miami (FL)

2003
Rnd Name College Note
1 Michael Haynes Penn State
1 Rex Grossman Florida
2 Charles Tillman Louisiana-Lafayette
3 Lance Briggs Arizona
4 Todd Johnson Florida
4 Ian Scott Florida
5 Bobby Wade Arizona
5 Justin Gage Missouri
5 Tron Lafavor Florida
6 Joe Odom Purdue
6 Brock Forsey Boise State
7 Bryan Anderson Pittsburgh

raphael120
01-02-2008, 11:03 AM
Jauron is not going to take this team anywhere.

Know what he does when we kick a field goal? Looks satisfied and claps his hands like "good job, chief!"

Know what other coaches do? They're pissed off because they couldn't score a touchdown.

It's little things like that that make good coaches great and bad coaches horrible.

We have a coach that doesn't make the right calls, doesnt have the guts to call out the people who arent doing a good job (including Fairchild)

If we wouldve fired Jauron and Fairchild after the Dallas game, I believe we would've been better off in the long run. Whoever wouldve taken over playcalling duties wouldve either shown us that the inside guy successor wouldve been capable or not.

Mahdi
01-02-2008, 11:59 AM
http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm




JAURON'S JUICE ON THE RISE?

As the Buffalo Bills embark on their search for a new General Manager, it appears that coach Dick Jauron will emerge from the process with greater influence (http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/story/241070.html).

It's a far different circumstance than what Jauron faced seven years ago in Chicago. After Jerry Angelo was hired as G.M., it was an open secret in league circles that Angelo wanted to get his own coach.

A 13-3 season in 2001 delayed Angelo's plans for two additional years. Eventually, however, Jauron was out.

But Jauron has the Bills on the right track, and he already has final say over the team's personnel. He'll likely also have a strong voice in hiring of the successor to Marv Levy, who stepped down after two years on the job.

Per Mark Gaughan of the Buffalo News, Jauron's current role makes it less likely that the team will look outside of the organization for a replacement. But Gaughan throws an intriguing name into the mix -- Bears director of college scouting Greg Gabriel.

Gabriel is a Buffalo native, and he's a veteran scout who has drawn solid reviews for his work in shaping last year's NFC champs. If he's willing to defer to Jauron, and if he can convince Jauron that he's sincere in this regard, Gabriel could have a chance at the gig.

And if Gabriel is otherwise willing to not rock the front-office boat, the organization would benefit from his perspective as the 2008 draft approaches.

But if Gabriel won't be getting final say over personnel in Buffalo, the Bears would have to be willing to let him walk. And that's probably not likely to happen.
I think Jauron sees this team exactly for what it is and thats why you dont see him criticizing them too much and just applauds their effort. He knows that our team is under-manned, and lacks talent in areas where talent is a requirement. I think its only the Fans that have unrealistic expectations of the Bills.

That being said I think giving Jauron more power is a great idea. He knows what the team needs are and he will address them mainly through the draft and maybe a signing or 2 in FA.

Why would Jauron not want his offense to be productive? He will hire an OC who he thinks will do a good job and thats the bottom line. If he thinks Shoenert provides an advantage because he is already in the system he will promote him and if he thinks a change is needed he will do that also.

Mahdi
01-02-2008, 12:00 PM
Chicago Bears Draft History

2007
Rd. 1 Pick 31: Greg Olsen - TE - Miami
Rd. 2 Pick 60: Dan Bazuin - DE - Central Michigan
Rd. 3 Pick 93: Garrett Wolfe - RB - Northern Illinois
Rd. 3 Pick 94: Michael Okwo - OLB - Stanford
Rd. 4 Pick 130: Josh Beekman - OG - Boston College
Rd. 5 Pick 167: Kevin Payne - S - Lousianna Monroe
Rd. 5 Pick 168: Corey Graham - CB - New Hampshire
Rd. 7 Pick 221: Trumaine McBride - CB - Ole Miss
Rd. 7 Pick 241: Aaron Grant - OT - Iowa State


2006
Rnd Name College Note
2 Danieal Manning Abilene Christian
2 Devin Hester Miami (FL)
3 Dusty Dvoracek Oklahoma
4 Jamar Williams Arizona State
5 Mark Anderson Alabama
6 J.D. Runnels Oklahoma
6 Tyler Reed Penn State

2005
Rnd Name College Note
1 Cedric Benson Texas
2 Mark Bradley Oklahoma
4 Kyle Orton Purdue
5 Airese Currie Clemson
6 Chris Harris Louisiana-Monroe
7 Rodriques Wilson South Carolina

2004
Rnd Name College Note
1 Tommie Harris Oklahoma
2 Terry Johnson Washington
3 Bernard Berrian Fresno State
4 Nathan Vasher Texas
4 Leon Joe Maryland
5 Claude Harriott Pittsburgh
5 Craig Krenzel Ohio State
7 Alfonso Marshall Miami (FL)

2003
Rnd Name College Note
1 Michael Haynes Penn State
1 Rex Grossman Florida
2 Charles Tillman Louisiana-Lafayette
3 Lance Briggs Arizona
4 Todd Johnson Florida
4 Ian Scott Florida
5 Bobby Wade Arizona
5 Justin Gage Missouri
5 Tron Lafavor Florida
6 Joe Odom Purdue
6 Brock Forsey Boise State
7 Bryan Anderson Pittsburgh
I think Tank Johnson and Charles Tillman should be highlighted as well.

TigerJ
01-02-2008, 12:24 PM
Another words.

Whomever the next GM is going to be, is basically a puppet.

That might be a little strong, but essentially I think it means Dick Jauron stays as head coach until Ralph Wilson decides he's toast. I also think that if Levy was honest with Dick Jauron (and I think he probably was) and told him he was only going to be GM for two years, that was probably a promise that Wilson made to Jauron to get him to sign. Would you take a job as head coach if the GM said he was going to quit in 2 years? If Jauron screws up to the point that Ralph Wilson lets him go, then I think the GM at the time will have traditional GM authority to hire Jauron's successor.