This is Ralph Wilson's last chance to prove that he isn't a cheap idiot...

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  • HHURRICANE
    Registered User
    • Mar 2005
    • 15490

    This is Ralph Wilson's last chance to prove that he isn't a cheap idiot...

    Sorry, but we need a GM and an OC plus a lot of players. Marv did an excellent job of putting us in a situation to succeed moving forward.

    Cam Cameron is the top OC available. He will not come here on the cheap so Ralph will have to open up the purse strings to get him.

    GM is by far one of the most critical positions so taking it lightly is a mistake. I'll be the first to say that Overdorf is the only guy that I would trust internally but we should be looking outside.

    I'll tell you right now if Guy is our GM and Turk becomes our OC I'm going to be ripping Wilson until he's pushing daisies.

    Ralph has a real chance of making two solid moves before going into FA and the draft.

    He better not be stupid.
  • chernobylwraiths
    Registered User
    • Jan 2003
    • 41838

    #2
    Re: This is Ralph Wilson's last chance to prove that he isn't a cheap idiot...

    Hiring an OC is the job of the head coach, not the owner. Unless you want Dan Snyder as your owner.

    Hiring a GM will be tricky. If you hire someone from outside the organization, there is a good chance you be looking for a new coach and then a new philosophy and all new personnel and we will have to go through this rebuilding all over again.

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    • HHURRICANE
      Registered User
      • Mar 2005
      • 15490

      #3
      Re: This is Ralph Wilson's last chance to prove that he isn't a cheap idiot...

      Originally posted by chernobylwraiths
      Hiring an OC is the job of the head coach, not the owner. Unless you want Dan Snyder as your owner.

      Hiring a GM will be tricky. If you hire someone from outside the organization, there is a good chance you be looking for a new coach and then a new philosophy and all new personnel and we will have to go through this rebuilding all over again.
      Uhh, no way the OC is getting hired by Jauron alone.

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      • chernobylwraiths
        Registered User
        • Jan 2003
        • 41838

        #4
        Re: This is Ralph Wilson's last chance to prove that he isn't a cheap idiot...

        Originally posted by HHURRICANE
        Uhh, no way the OC is getting hired by Jauron alone.
        maybe not, but he should have a large part in the picking process as SHOULD he being the HC.

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        • justasportsfan
          Registered User
          • Jul 2002
          • 71579

          #5
          Re: This is Ralph Wilson's last chance to prove that he isn't a cheap idiot...

          I wonder if Dick will hire somone who commands a bigger salary than his own salary or be forced to find one in the dollar store or salvation army.
          sacrifice1
          https://theinterviewwithgod.com/video/

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          • Confused
            All-Pro Zoner
            • Jun 2007
            • 2479

            #6
            Re: This is Ralph Wilson's last chance to prove that he isn't a cheap idiot...

            uuuuuuhhhhhhh.........he is a cheap idiot.

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            • Jan Reimers
              Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
              • May 2003
              • 17353

              #7
              Re: This is Ralph Wilson's last chance to prove that he isn't a cheap idiot...

              Be careful what you wish for. The last time we hired a big name, expensive GM and OC, their names were Tom Donahoe and Kevin Gilbride, respectively.
              Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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              • HHURRICANE
                Registered User
                • Mar 2005
                • 15490

                #8
                Re: This is Ralph Wilson's last chance to prove that he isn't a cheap idiot...

                Originally posted by Jan Reimers
                Be careful what you wish for. The last time we hired a big name, expensive GM and OC, their names were Tom Donahoe and Kevin Gilbride, respectively.
                We know what taking the cheap way out gets us. I'll take my chances.

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                • justasportsfan
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 71579

                  #9
                  Re: This is Ralph Wilson's last chance to prove that he isn't a cheap idiot...

                  Originally posted by HHURRICANE
                  We know what taking the cheap way out gets us. I'll take my chances.
                  we don't agree majority of the time, bit I agree 100% on this. Greghead, Mularkey Fairchild. I'm almost sure Dick isn't a top paid HC, but so far he's worth the value.
                  sacrifice1
                  https://theinterviewwithgod.com/video/

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                  • Philagape
                    WIN NOW
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 19432

                    #10
                    Re: This is Ralph Wilson's last chance to prove that he isn't a cheap idiot...

                    When it comes to any decision, past failures, by us or others, can't be a factor. Every decision should be made on its merits alone. Every "way to go" has succeeded and failed at some point. Every option, as far as general philosophy, should at least be on the table.
                    "It is better to be divided by truth than to be united by error." -- Martin Luther

                    "Those who appease the crocodile will simply be eaten last." -- Winston Churchill

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                    • Jan Reimers
                      Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
                      • May 2003
                      • 17353

                      #11
                      Re: This is Ralph Wilson's last chance to prove that he isn't a cheap idiot...

                      Originally posted by HHURRICANE
                      We know what taking the cheap way out gets us. I'll take my chances.
                      All I'm saying is that blockbuster names don't always get results.

                      Way back when, we took a relatively unknown scout/front office guy named Bill Polian and a failed, aging coach named Marv Levy and created magic.

                      Sometimes you succeed simply by hiring good people, regardless of their reputation or past accomplishments.
                      Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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                      • Dr. Lecter
                        Zero for Zero!
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 67930

                        #12
                        Re: This is Ralph Wilson's last chance to prove that he isn't a cheap idiot...

                        Originally posted by HHURRICANE
                        We know what taking the cheap way out gets us. I'll take my chances.
                        You would have hated the Polian hiring. It was the "cheap" way out.
                        Originally posted by mysticsoto
                        Lecter is right in everything he said.

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                        • venis2k1
                          Youboty can hope
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 4621

                          #13
                          Re: This is Ralph Wilson's last chance to prove that he isn't a cheap idiot...

                          Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

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                          • Philagape
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                            • Jul 2002
                            • 19432

                            #14
                            Re: This is Ralph Wilson's last chance to prove that he isn't a cheap idiot...

                            Originally posted by venis2k1
                            Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
                            What we learned from hiring Tom Donahoe is not to hire Tom Donahoe again. That's it.
                            "It is better to be divided by truth than to be united by error." -- Martin Luther

                            "Those who appease the crocodile will simply be eaten last." -- Winston Churchill

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                            • Dr. Lecter
                              Zero for Zero!
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 67930

                              #15
                              Re: This is Ralph Wilson's last chance to prove that he isn't a cheap idiot...

                              Originally posted by Philagape
                              What we learned from hiring Tom Donahoe is not to hire Tom Donahoe again. That's it.
                              While I do agree, we also learned that hiring a big name FA GM is not a magical fix.
                              Last edited by Dr. Lecter; 01-06-2008, 12:29 PM.
                              Originally posted by mysticsoto
                              Lecter is right in everything he said.

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