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  • jpdex12
    Registered User
    • Jan 2005
    • 2670

    Realistic off season agenda

    Well, with the Bill sout of it early again this year there have been plenty of Zoners offering opinions on what this team needs in the off season.

    Realistically if we are going to contend for a playoff position next year we need immediate help from FA in some high priority positions. Yes, we should improve automatically with the return of a healthy roster but it is guarenteed that we will see some changes with both our offense and defense.

    A new offensive scheme will set us back a bit and it is a good possibility that we may see a new offense but naything will help at this point. I don't expect our defense to change much other than the addition of a few new players especially in the DT place.

    As far as free agency is concerned, we MUST get a solid #2 WR that is good at fighting off a CB and going up for the jump ball. Tall, fairly big bodied WR with good hands and reliability. We cannot rely on a rookie in the draft to start on day one. It won't happen. We are lucky that we have had good draft picks that have started for us in recent years. It won't happen every year.

    We also need to pick up a hefty DT in FA. Where will our next Ted Washington come from? That is the type of player we need to clog the D line and allow our linebackers to make more plays.

    The third need from FA is a back up QB. We need the services of a solid veteran play caller that will be able to help the learning curve of TE and also be able to hold down the fort in the event that Edwards goes down. Not a Vinny Testeverde but a Todd Collins/Kerry Collins type veteran.

    If we address any areas in FA these are the three positions we need to strengthen. We should expect to see a fairly high profile player signed in FA even if it comes in the form of a trade and not just a unrestricted FA. I would guess that it would be the DT position because there are not too many solid run stuffing DT's that are UFAs.

    As far as the draft, this will depend on what positions we can fill through FA. Assuming that we get who we need from FA for WR, DT and QB we will bolster depth and find soon to be starters in the draft to satisfy expectations in the 2009 season. Our first priority in the draft would have to be best player available for certain positions in the 1st round. Either an OLB or WR. I say this because the top players that we would jump at no matter what positions we needed to fill won't be there. No Chris Long, no Dorsey or Ellis. We won't go after a QB or offensive lineman, running back or a DE.

    1st round
    DT=Dorsey/Ellis, LB=Connor/Laurinaitis (either can play OLB), WR=Kelly/Sweed
    2nd round
    TE=Keller/Rucker, LB=Sean Lee/Highsmith, WR=Bowman, CB=McKelvin/Porter/Talib
    3rd round
    TE/WR/CB

    I would hope to see...
    1st-Ellis
    2nd-Highsmith
    Trade both 3rds to get a second rounder to take Keller
    Trade the 4th round pick I could see us getting for JP and one of our 5ths to get back into the 3rd and take a CB or a tall WR.

    Scrap the Hback crap and get a real tight end and FB formation.
    Where else would you rather be than right here right now?
  • shelby
    The Vanilla *****
    • Jul 2002
    • 48489

    #2
    Re: Realistic off season agenda

    ....thanks.
    Great breakdown.

    i billieve this team is headed in the right direction, but some changes do need to be made. We still have glaring needs on the roster which must be addressed, and i'd like the offensive gameplan to change drastically. Scrapping the Cover 2 wouldn't hurt my feelings any, but i doubt that would happen.

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    • ParanoidAndroid
      My battery is low and it's getting dark.
      • Apr 2004
      • 16837

      #3
      Re: Realistic off season agenda

      FA: WR Bryant Johnson, DT Randy Starks, CB Charles Tillman

      Draft: 1. DE Gholston (if he falls) or Calais Campbell
      2. TE Martin Rucker
      3. WR Keenan Burton (falls after a dropoff in productivity)
      3. OLB ? This is a deep draft at this position; take best available
      4. FB Jehuu Caulcrick (went to HS in WNY; Clymer)

      This is certainly a feasible offseason given our current cap space and one that I believe would fill nearly every hole and upgrade every weak spot on the roster.

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      • jpdex12
        Registered User
        • Jan 2005
        • 2670

        #4
        Re: Realistic off season agenda

        Originally posted by andyxc71
        FA: WR Bryant Johnson, DT Randy Starks, CB Charles Tillman

        Draft: 1. DE Gholston (if he falls) or Calais Campbell
        2. TE Martin Rucker
        3. WR Keenan Burton (falls after a dropoff in productivity)
        3. OLB ? This is a deep draft at this position; take best available
        4. FB Jehuu Caulcrick (went to HS in WNY; Clymer)

        This is certainly a feasible offseason given our current cap space and one that I believe would fill nearly every hole and upgrade every weak spot on the roster.
        those FAs would be great!
        Where else would you rather be than right here right now?

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        • Midwesternbillsfan
          Registered User
          • Apr 2007
          • 207

          #5
          Re: Realistic off season agenda

          Charles Tillman signed a contract extension w/Chicago last summer.

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          • Nighthawk
            Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
            • Jul 2002
            • 15437

            #6
            Re: Realistic off season agenda

            A realistic start would be getting a good GM in here who can ACTUALLY lead this team in the right direction and not this love fest everybody had for Marv. Get that done and maybe, just maybe...we see this team move in the right direction.

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            • DraftBoy
              Administrator
              • Jul 2002
              • 107452

              #7
              Re: Realistic off season agenda

              My Offseason:
              FA: DT Corey Williams (our one big addition), LB Boss Bailey, OC Jeff Faine, OG Jake Scott

              R1: TE Martellus Bennett-Texas A&M
              R2: WR Limas Sweed-Texas
              R3: CB Dominique Rodgers-Croamartie-Tennessee State
              R3: LB Phillip Wheeler-Georgia Tech
              R4: QB Joe Flacco-Delaware
              R5: DE Tommy Blake-TCU
              R6: SS Chris Horton-UCLA
              R7: OC Fernando Velasco-Georgia
              R7: WR Shareer McBride-Delaware State

              Thoughts?
              COMING SOON...
              Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
              We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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              • Luisito23
                Men Have Superbowl Gold, Legends Have Platinum Hearts!!!
                • Apr 2003
                • 7433

                #8
                Re: Realistic off season agenda

                Limas Sweed will not last until the 2nd. round....





                GO BILLS!!!!!!
                "Expect rejection, but expect more to overcome it."
                ***Marv Levy.***


                "Coach Levy is one of the most inspirational people that I have ever known."
                ***Thurman Thomas.***


                "You're not going to find a more classier, down-to-Earth person away from the field than Marv Levy. He's a guy who's pretty much made me what I am today as far as a professional player and a person."
                ***Jim Kelly***


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                • DraftBoy
                  Administrator
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 107452

                  #9
                  Re: Realistic off season agenda

                  Originally posted by Luisito23
                  Limas Sweed will not last until the 2nd. round....





                  GO BILLS!!!!!!

                  No he will actually, he's currently being projected to go there once Kelly declares he'll drop even more.
                  COMING SOON...
                  Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                  We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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                  • ParanoidAndroid
                    My battery is low and it's getting dark.
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 16837

                    #10
                    Re: Realistic off season agenda

                    Originally posted by Midwesternbillsfan
                    Charles Tillman signed a contract extension w/Chicago last summer.
                    Thanks....that's what I get for trusting KFFL.

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                    • ParanoidAndroid
                      My battery is low and it's getting dark.
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 16837

                      #11
                      Re: Realistic off season agenda

                      Originally posted by DraftBoy
                      My Offseason:
                      FA: DT Corey Williams (our one big addition), LB Boss Bailey, OC Jeff Faine, OG Jake Scott

                      R1: TE Martellus Bennett-Texas A&M
                      R2: WR Limas Sweed-Texas
                      R3: CB Dominique Rodgers-Croamartie-Tennessee State
                      R3: LB Phillip Wheeler-Georgia Tech
                      R4: QB Joe Flacco-Delaware
                      R5: DE Tommy Blake-TCU
                      R6: SS Chris Horton-UCLA
                      R7: OC Fernando Velasco-Georgia
                      R7: WR Shareer McBride-Delaware State

                      Thoughts?
                      The chances of spending more FA money on the O-line is slim, but Williams and Bailey would be nice. Bennett and Sweed would also be great but I'm not sure a TE in round 1 is the way Jauron will go. Either WR or defense makes more sense. I wouldn't complain about Wheeler either. That may be too early for a QB, especially if we pick up a FA which would be wise if Losman moves on.

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                      • Bmax
                        Registered User
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 1711

                        #12
                        Re: Realistic off season agenda

                        Ok here goes FA sign

                        WR-Ernest Wiliford Haven't always been a big fan of his but his size and play making skills are very good...Bryan Johnson would choice 2..

                        DT-Would go Corey Williams but price may be a little too steep...Damione Lewis-Cheaper option to fill the void ..

                        TE-Gaines - Another cheap fill in for depth....good blocker...Back up


                        Draft
                        1. WR-Malcom Kelly-WR-6-4-220-Big WR the Bills covet..with Wiliford he can come along slowly and blow up late in the season...DE- Jason Jones-I Know we need a WR and TE....But how many sacks did we have last year ? 26 yikes !!!.... yeah we spent big money on schobel and Kelsy .. But Hargrove is a FA and Denney is banged up we need Quality depth....Harvey will give us that.. For all we know Denney may be gone by 2009 we his contract is up....

                        2. DT- Frank Okam-Texas-6-5-320 needs a little work.. Big time stuffer who may not fit our Def. Dre Moore may be another option

                        3a. DE- Jason Jones-Eastern Mich 6-5-262 -I Know we need a TE....But how many sacks did we have last year ? 26 yikes !!!.... yeah we spent big money on Schobel and Kelsy .. But Hargrove is a FA and Denney is banged up we need Quality depth....Jones is a riser who will give the Bills the athlete they need at the position.. For all we know Denney may be gone by 2009 when his contract is up....

                        3b.Tavres Gooden Miami-OLB can also polay inside LB 6-2-236 4.5 speed ...Need some grooming but he is a great athlete ....

                        4.Dwight Lowery-San jose St-CB.. Injuries and Youboty have Bills seeking another CB

                        5a. Kellen Davis-Mich ST- TE-6-6-252... Rugged stud who can get downfield.

                        5b-.Curtis Gatewood-OLB -Vandy-6-2-242....

                        6. Curtis Johnson -Clark-Atlanta-DE-OLB-6-3-245...

                        7A.Marcus Coleman-C-Wisc.6-5-305

                        7B.Mike Gibson-OT-OG Cal-6-4-308...


                        Bmax
                        Last edited by Bmax; 01-06-2008, 09:09 PM.

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                        • jpdex12
                          Registered User
                          • Jan 2005
                          • 2670

                          #13
                          Re: Realistic off season agenda

                          Originally posted by DraftBoy
                          No he will actually, he's currently being projected to go there once Kelly declares he'll drop even more.
                          Doubt it.
                          Where else would you rather be than right here right now?

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