AFC East Player Position rankings

[fabolouspaul]

Saw this thread at Finheaven and thought it would be cool to see your thoughts. These are my rankings.

QB
1. Bledsoe
2. Pennington
3. Brady
4. Fiedler


RB
1. Williams
2. Henry
3. Martin
4. Smith

FB
1. Konrad
2. Gash
3. McCrary
4. Dyer


WR
1. Moulds
2. Chambers
3. Brown
4. Moss


TE
1. McMichael
2. Graham
3. Campbell

DE
1. Taylor
2. Abraham
3. M. Jones
4. Mcginist

DT
1. P. Williams
2. Ferguson
3. Pleasant
4. Adams

MLB
1. Fletcher
2. Thomas
3. M. Jones
4. Bruschi

SLB
1. Colvin
3. M. Lewis
3. Posey
4. Greenwood

WLB
1. SPIKES
2. Cowart
3. Phifer
4. Rodgers

CB
1. Winfield (best CB tackler in the league)
2. Law
3. Surtain
4. Abraham
5. Clements
6. Madison
7. Poole
8. Beasley

FS
1. T. Jones
2. Marion
3. Reese
4. Mcgraw

SS
1. Milloy
2. Garnes
3. Wire
4. Freeman

K
1. Vinateri
2. Mare
3. Lindell (still unsure)
4. Brien


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[Brian H]

I hope they know we have two great tight ends.......

[RedEyE]

Nice post - I agree with all of it.

[gonzo1105]

No offense but this thing is so biased towards the bills

QB:
1A. Bledsoe
1B. Brady
3. Pennington
4. Fiedler

RB:
1. Ricky Williams
2A. Travis Henry
2B. Curtis Martin
4. Antowain Smith

FB:
1. McCrary
2. Gash
3. Dyer
4. Sowell
(Konrad is gonna be released or is an FA)

WR:
1. Eric Moulds
2. Chris Chambers
3. Troy Brown
4. David Patten

TE:
1. Randy McMichael
2. Anthony Becht
3. Daniel Graham
4. Mark Campbell/Dave Moore

DE
1. Jason Taylor
2. John Abraham
3. Shaun Ellis
4. Ogunleye( 9 sacks his rookie year)

DT:
1. Pat Williams
2. Tim Bowens
3. Richard Seymour
4. Jason Ferguson

MLB:
1. London Fletcher
1B. Zach Thomas
3. Marvin Lewis
4. Bruschi

SLB:
1. Colvin
2. Mo Lewis
3. Posey
4. Greenwood

WLB:
1. Spikes
2. Cowart
3. Phifer
3B. Greenwood

CB:
1. Ty Law
2. Sam Madison
3. Patrick Surtain
4. Nate Clements

I'm done with the rest

[fabolouspaul]

Originally posted by gonzo1105
No offense but this thing is so biased towards the bills

No. I wastnt trying to be biased. These are just my opinions. there were a lot of Dolphins in the top spots also. Bledsoe, Spikes, Moulds. Williams are definitely #1. Winfield and fletcher are both debateable. Your ranked all my #1's on your list #1 also except for Winfield.

[ublinkwescore]

Originally posted by fabolouspaul
Saw this thread at Finheaven and thought it would be cool to see your thoughts. These are my rankings.

QB
1. Bledsoe
2. Pennington
3. Brady
4. Fiedler


RB
1. Williams
2. Henry
3. Martin
4. Smith

FB
1. Konrad
2. Gash
3. McCrary
4. Dyer


WR
1. Moulds
2. Chambers
3. Brown
4. Moss


TE
1. McMichael
2. Graham
3. Campbell

DE
1. Taylor
2. Abraham
3. M. Jones
4. Mcginist

DT
1. P. Williams
2. Ferguson
3. Pleasant
4. Adams

MLB
1. Fletcher
2. Thomas
3. M. Jones
4. Bruschi

SLB
1. Colvin
3. M. Lewis
3. Posey
4. Greenwood

WLB
1. SPIKES
2. Cowart
3. Phifer
4. Rodgers

CB
1. Winfield (best CB tackler in the league)
2. Law
3. Surtain
4. Abraham
5. Clements
6. Madison
7. Poole
8. Beasley

FS
1. T. Jones
2. Marion
3. Reese
4. Mcgraw

SS
1. Milloy
2. Garnes
3. Wire
4. Freeman

K
1. Vinateri
2. Mare
3. Lindell (still unsure)
4. Brien


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QB
1. Bledsoe
2. Pennington
3. Brady
4. Fiedler

Gotta agree with that.

RB
1. Williams
2. Henry
3. Martin
4. Smith

Last year that was true, this year, Henry surpasses Williams - moving RW into second.

FB
1. Konrad
2. Gash
3. McCrary
4. Dyer

I have to put Gash in at number 1, then Konrad.

WR
1. Moulds
2. Shaw
3. Patten
4. Reed

TE
1. Moore
2. Graham
3. Campbell

DE
1. Taylor
2. M. Jones
3. Abraham
4. Schobel

DT
1. P. Williams
2. Adams
3. Pleasant
4. Ferguson - Bledsoe knocked this guy on his @$$!

MLB
1. Fletcher
2. Thomas (only because he's slowing down with age)
3. M. Jones
4. Bruschi

SLB
1. Colvin
3. M. Lewis
3. Posey
4. Greenwood

No complaints there.

WLB
1. SPIKES
2. Cowart
3. Phifer
4. Rodgers None here either

CB
1. Winfield (best CB tackler in the league)
2. Law
3. Clements
4. Surtain (excepf for when the fish play us - then he falls all the way to number 7).
5. Abraham
6. Madison
7. Poole
8. Beasley

FS
1. T. Jones
2. Reese - TD knows what he's doing.
3. Marion
4. Mcgraw

SS
1. Milloy
2. Wire - Wire will improve that much.
3. Garnes
4. Freeman

K Toss up - and who cares as long as Lindell is slightly better then solid.
1. Vinateri
2. Mare
3. Lindell (still unsure)
4. Brien

[fabolouspaul]

Shaw #2? I would say chambers. I dont even think Shaw is #2 on our team lol.

[ublinkwescore]

I've been hearing that Shaw is expected to oust Reed from the number 2 spot - we'll see.

[fabolouspaul]

Reed plays a great slot receiver and it seems like Shaw will replace the speed of Price. Could be an interesting experiment in the preseason.

[Tatonka]

gonzo's is the closest to accurate..

pennington is on pace to be the best qb in the division.. i believe he will be this year.. and if you say that you cant rate him as such after only one good year.. take a look at henry at the #2 spot on the RB list..

agree with RBs.. henry should surpass williams this year.. imho

putting shaw on any top 4 list is rediculous.. and not having conway on that list is nuts too .. conway will prove to be as good as coles was last year. mouldsy is still tops though.. and hopefully josh reed earns a spot on that list... but now i see.. moulds, conway, brown, chambers..

TEs.. we lose in a land slide at this point.. we are last.

FB.. to not have Konrad in first is nuts too imho... he is by far the best fb in our division.. no question.. and crosby is better than gash at this point.. but our combo of fb's should be in the #2 spot.

the first list didnt have bowens in there at DT.. which is crazy.. other than Pat Williams.. he is by far the best DT.. he made the pro bowl as well. and seymore is the best young tackle in the nfl, let alone our division.

to put M. Jones on any list after he hasnt done squat in 2 years, and not much before that is wishful thinking at this point.. the dolphins should have 2 guys on that list.. and the jets should have 2 on there.. schobel just misses out of the top 4.. jones isnt on the radar right now.

the cornerback thing is so tough to call..

our secondary doesnt make enough plays.. to be there with law and surtain.. does that mean they wont this year? no.. but they havent yet. i dont know.. i dont even care to really rank them.. there is too many.. we have two good ones, but there are at least 3 other top quality guys in our division at CB that could be on the top of that list.

not much to say about FS and SS.. they are about right..

lindell is good at 3rd in the division.. cant move him ahead of vini or mare.. they are both very solid.

Ublinkwescore..

that is the most biased list i have ever seen bro..lol.. i mean you can be optimistic, but come on.. lol

[justasportsfan]

I guess most of you are "hoping" that some players will turn out the way you rank them.

You are as good as your last performance. With that being said Zach was the no. 1 tackler in the NFL. No way is Fletcher better than Zach at this point.

Moore and Campbell over McMichael?

M. Jones was good as a Buc but hasn't played a down as a bill. Plus his injury isn't 100% healed.

Shaw over Chambers? Shaw isn't even a no. 1 on any team and not even on ours so how does he rate better than Chambers?

[Tatonka]

i know people get excited about their team.. but ublink's ranks are as bad or worse than the homerism we rant about from fin fans.

[justasportsfan]

Originally posted by Tatonka
i know people get excited about their team.. but ublink's ranks are as bad or worse than the homerism we rant about from fin fans.

I know. I laughed at WCF's power rankings and to be fair with him, Ublink's is just as biased.

I don't even know where to put Gash. He was great for us years ago , but I don't know wherehe's at at this point in his career. For a rookie, McMichael has out performed both Campbell and Moore and yet he's not even on the list.

Granted that Brady isn't as good as Drew when Drew is at his top, he isn't as bad when Drew is bad.

Shaw at no. 2 is funny.

[ublinkwescore]

We shall see who's full of crap at the end of the season.

We've got a balanced offense that is supposed to be more Henry based this year.

[justasportsfan]

Originally posted by ublinkwescore
We shall see who's full of crap at the end of the season.

We've got a balanced offense that is supposed to be more Henry based this year.

What does Henry have to do with Shaw being no. 2 in the entire AFCE?

Ublink, I am not against your rankings. Like I said your ranking is based on the hope that they will end up like that. I am with you on that hope.

[Tatonka]

fantasy vs. reality.

[WCoastFin]

QB
1. Feidler
2. Brady
3. Pennington
4. Bledsoe


RB
1. Williams
2. Martin
T3. Henry
T3. Smith

FB
1. Konrad
2. Gash
3. Dyer
4. McCrary


WR
1. Moulds
2. Chambers
3. Brown
4. Moss


TE
1. McMichael
2. Graham
3. Campbell

DE
1. Taylor
2. Abraham
3. Mcginist
4. M. Jones

DT
T1. P.Williams
T1. Bowens
3. Pleasant
4. Adams
5.Ferguson

MLB
1. Thomas
2. Bruschi
3. Fletcher
4. M.Jones

SLB
1. Colvin
3. M. Lewis
3. Posey
4. Greenwood

WLB
1. Spikes
T2. Cowart
T2. Phifer
4. Rodgers

CB
1. Surtain
T2. Madison
T2. Law
4. Winfield
5. Abraham
T6. Clements
T6. T.Buck
8. Poole
9. Beasley

FS
1. Marion
2. T.Jones
3. McGraw
4. Reese

SS
1. Milloy
2. Garnes
T3. Wire
T3. Freeman

K
T1. Vinateri
T1. Mare
T3. Lindell
T3. Brien

[justasportsfan]

Fiedler? NO!

[Stewie]

Originally posted by WCoastFin
[B]QB
1. Feidler
2. Brady
3. Pennington
4. Bledsoe


RB
1. Williams
2. Martin
T3. Henry
T3. Smith


LOL! Ranking Feidler 1st in the division? Based on what, exactly? Look at the numbers, they speak for themselves. Want proof? Say "Pro Bowl"

1 Bledsoe
2 Brady
3 Pennington
4 Feidler

I'll give you Ricky at #1, cause he's the best back, look at the numbers. Following that logic, how in the hell can you put an aging and injured Martin above TH? Look at the numbers. I won't even entertain Antowain on that list, I think the Bills and Jets both have backup RB's on their rosters right now that are better than him (Sammy Morris and Lamont Jordan).

1 Williams
2 Henry
3 Martin
4 Morris/Jordan/Smith

[justasportsfan]

Originally posted by paulB


LOL! Ranking Feidler 1st in the division? Based on what, exactly?

Based on him being a finfan. That's it!

[WCoastFin]

Originally posted by paulB


LOL! Ranking Feidler 1st in the division? Based on what, exactly?

winning % :flush:

[WCoastFin]

I gave the benefit of the doubt to Martin becuz of his success....TH has to prove last year wasnt a meer fluke.

[Herdwatcher]

QB
1. Feidler
2. Brady
3. Pennington
4. Bledsoe


RB
1. Williams
2. Martin
T3. Henry
T3. Smith


What a crack! That's like a punch line to a bad Dulfan joke.

LET THE FLOGGING BEGIN!!!!

[Tatonka]

wow.. wtoast actually made one more bias than ublinks.. rofl.

[HenryRules]

I can understand, yet completely disagree with, someone putting Martin slightly ahead of Henry. Martin has done it year-in-and-year-out and the second half of last season, I'd say he was the best back in the division. That being said, I'd still say #4 for Martin.

I can't understand how anyone could possibly say that Fielder is the best QB in the division though ... that's just laughable.

The one ranking I disagree with on most lists is Marcus Jones as a top 4 DE. I'd love it if he could repeat his 2000 year, but from what I know, he was healthy in 2001 and didn't do much at all. I'd say he's behind Schobel on our team (who I'd have as #4 in the division) and the guy on the Dolphins whose name I can't pronounce, but I'll give a shot at spelling, Adawalie Hogonley (who I'd have as a #5).

My list:
QB - Bledsoe, Pennington, Brady, Fielder
RB - Williams, Henry, Martin, Smith
FB - Konrad, Dyer, Crosby, McCrary (I like Gash for leadership, but don't think he has much left).
WR - Moulds, Chambers, Brown, Moss
TE - Graham, McMichael, Becht, Moore
DE - Taylor, Abraham, Ellis, Schoebel
DT - Bowens, Williams, Adams, Ferguson
MLB - Fletcher, Thomas, Bruschi, Jones
SLB - Colvin, Lewis, Posey, Greenwood
WLB - Spikes, Cowart, Phifer, Rogers
CB - Law, Surtain, Madison, Clements
FS - Jones, Marion, McGraw, Prioeleau
SS - Milloy, Garnes, Freeman, Wire
K - Vinateri, Mare, Lindell, Brien

[XNOUGHT]

The honesty on this board is sickening.

Where is that blatant homerism Bills fans!?!?!?!?!!

I am going to visit some Jets and Phins sites where they have stuff like Curtis Matrin over Ricky or Feidler over Bledsoe.

[Tatonka]

henryrules.. that is about as close to realistic that i have seen.. good job..

i do think pennington will be the best qb in the division this year.. but i could be wrong.

[4thAndLong]

I dont think you can really grade them individually...It only matters how you play as a unit, and with all the new faces you dont know how it will pan out. I'll try one though...

.

QB
1. Bledsoe
2a Pennington
2b Brady
4 Fiedler

RB
1. Williams
2. Henry
3. Martin
4. Smith

WR
1. Moulds
2. Brown
3. Chambers
4a Patten
4b Moss

(Reed will be up there next year)

TE
1. McMichael
2. Graham
3. Becht
4. Moore/Campbell

DE
1. Taylor
2. Abraham
3. McGinest
4. Schoebel

DT
1. Williams
2. Bowens
3. Ferguson
4. Adams

WLB
1. Spikes
2. Cowart
3. Phifer
4. Rodgers (The only thing he can do good is smack his wife :gag:)

MLB
1a Fletcher
1b Thomas
3 Bruschi
4. Jones

SLB
1. Colvin
2. Lewis
3. Posey
4. Greenwood

CB
1a Law
1b Surtain
3. Clements
4. Madison

FS
1. Jones
2. Marion
3. McGraw
4. Reese/Prioleau

SS
1. Milloy
2. Garnes
3. Wire
4. Freeman
(Harrison?)

K
1. Vinateari (sp)
2. Mare
3. Lindell
4. Brien

[Dman]

QB
1. Bledsoe
2. VanPelt
3. Brown
4. Pennington

RB
1. Henry
2. Morris
3. Burns
4. De'mond Parker

WR
1. Moulds
2. Reed
3. Shaw
4. C. Johnson

TE
1. Campbell
2. Moore
3. Ryan Neufeld
4. Brady McDonnell

DE
1. Jones
2. Schobel
3. K.McKenzie
4. G. Irons

DT
1. Williams
2. Adams
3. Edwards
4. Bannan

WLB
1. Spikes
2. Polk
3. Anthony Denman
4. Merceda Perry

MLB
1. Fletcher
2. Spoon
3 Josh Stamer
4. Polk

SLB
1. Posey
2. Spoon
3. Dom. Stevenson
4. Denman

CB
1. Winfield
2. Clements
3. Kevin Thomas
4. Watson ( more than just your average 'punt catcher')

FS
1. Reese
2. Prioleau
3. Driver
4. Proctor

SS
1. Wire
2. Reese
3. Proctor
4. Prioleau

K
1. Lindell
2. Witzak
3. Moreman
4. Watson (see above)

:stupid:

[4thAndLong]

:lol:

[justasportsfan]

Dman has the most accurate ranking by far.

[PA Season Ticket Holder]

QB:
1. Pennington
2. Bledsoe
3. Brady
4. Fiedler

RB:
1. Williams
2. Henry
3. Martin
4. Jordan- He might not be the starter yet, but he's better then Smith.

FB:
1.Konrad
2. Gash

WR:
1. Moulds
2. Brown
3. Chambers
4. Moss

TE:
1. McMichael
2. Bect
3. Graham
4. Cambell

DE:
1. Taylor
2. Abraham
3. Schobel

DT:
1. Williams
2. Seymour
3. Ferguson
4. Adams

MLB:
1. Fletcher
2. Thomas
3. Jones
4. Bruschi

SLB:
1. Colvin
2. Posey
3. Lewis
4. Greenwood

WLB:
1. Spikes
2. Cowart
3. Phifer
4. Rodgers

CB:
1. Law
2. Winfield
3. Surtain
4. Clements
5. Madison
6. Abraham
7. Poole
8. Beasely

FS
1. T. Jones
2. Marion
3. Reese
4. Mcgraw

SS
1. Milloy
2. Garnes
3. Wire
4. Freeman

K
1. Vinateri
2. Mare
3. Lindell
4. Brien

[Tatonka]

i cant believe people are just leaving Bowens off their lists.. he is questionably THE BEST in the East... and a probowler as well.

[WCoastFin]

Originally posted by Tatonka
i cant believe people are just leaving Bowens off their lists.. he is questionably THE BEST in the East... and a probowler as well.

Tatonka my freind, most Bill fans suffer from what is called "tunnel vision".... they need some:help:

[Novacane]

Originally posted by WCoastFin


Tatonka my freind, most Bill fans suffer from what is called "tunnel vision".... they need some:help:



Like You have room to talk buddy:D

[4thAndLong]

Originally posted by WCoastFin


Tatonka my freind, most Bill fans suffer from what is called "tunnel vision".... they need some:help:

Yeah, and Fiedler's the best QB in the division...:rolleyes:

[lordofgun]

Pennington was not a flash in the pan. We'll be dealing with him for a long time. I'd put him at #1 for sure.

[4thAndLong]

Originally posted by lordofgun
Pennington was not a flash in the pan. We'll be dealing with him for a long time. I'd put him at #1 for sure.

We'll see how he does without Coles...IMO, Jets dont have a go-to guy anymore. I dont think Santana is ready for that role as of yet.

[Tatonka]

they signed conway.. and conway will do just fine.. his numbers are almost identical to coles over the last 2 years..

anyone who plays fantasy football knows conway gets it done..

pennington is a stud to be.

[Kicker22705]

QB
1. Pennington (by far the most consistent in regular season)
2. Bledsoe (When he's on hes the best, when not he's the worst)
2. Brady (little more consistent than bledsoe, this can go either way)
4. Fiedler (Does have good winning %, but due to ricky and D)

RB
1. Williams (no aurgument here)
2. Martin (martin gets it done year in and out, most consistent in the division)
2. Henry (Breakout season, fluke or not he's on the rise)
4. Jordon (A. Smith sux, only shows up 2ice a year vs the bills)

WR
1. Moulds (head and shoulders above the rest in the division)
2. Chambers (good WR, bad QB, imagine what he could do on our team)
3. Brown (Overachiever everyone forgets about, does well in the system)


TE
1. McMichael
2. Pat TEs (no single dominate TE, rather all get highly involved)
3. Becht
4. Moore/Campbell (we'd be #1 combo in blocking)

DE
1. Taylor
2. Abraham
3. Ellis
4. Schoebel

DT (tough call)
1. Bowens
2. Seymore
2. Williams (paired w/ adams maybe #1)
4. Adams
4. Ferguson

WLB
1. Spikes
2. Cowart
3. Phifer
4. Rodgers

MLB
1 Fletcher (will greatly benefit having Adams and Pat, not to mension Spikes)
2 Thomas
3 Bruschi
4. Jones

SLB
1. Colvin
2. Lewis
3. Posey
4. Greenwood

CB (tough call)
1. Law
2. Surtain
3. Winfield
4. Madison
5. Clements

FS
1. Jones
2. Marion
3. McGraw
4. Prioleau

SS
1. Milloy
2. Garnes
3. Harrision
4. Wire

K
1. Vinateari
2. Mare
3. Lindell
4. Brien