Instead or ripping on the Pats...

[HHURRICANE]

Sorry guys but the "I hate the Pats" or "Pats ar gay" threads are somewhat pathetic.

The Pats take chances and count on their coach to mesh the team together. Picking up Moss, Adalius, Welker, and Stallworth were brilliant moves.

The Bills continue to play it safe. Peerless Price, nice FA pick up.

I for one am sick of watching our team flounder and certainly am not going to take anything away from the Pats.

[Jan Reimers]

A good portion of the "I hate the Pats" thing is jealosy.

The rest is well deserved.

[Oldbillsfan]

Picking up the best free agents available is a brilliant move? I think what they gave up for Welker and Moss was brilliant- or really stupid by the other teams GM's. The Bills can take some pride in bulilding the dynasty giving them the 15th pick in the draft so they didnt have to cut Bledsoe.

[Ickybaluky]

A good portion of the "I hate the Pats" thing is jealosy.

No, I think it pretty much is all hatred. I think people are sick of them.

[TacklingDummy]

The Pats are everything I wish the Bills were.

[OpIv37]

Sorry guys but the "I hate the Pats" or "Pats ar gay" threads are somewhat pathetic.

The Pats take chances and count on their coach to mesh the team together. Picking up Moss, Adalius, Welker, and Stallworth were brilliant moves.

The Bills continue to play it safe. Peerless Price, nice FA pick up.

I for one am sick of watching our team flounder and certainly am not going to take anything away from the Pats.

the Pats don't deserve their success.

1. They cheated
2. Bellicheck is a condescending ass
3. Brady is a whiner
4. Seau is a turncoat douche who acts like he won the SB after every tackle
5. Wilfork got fined twice for dirty hits this year
6. Vrabel got fined for dirty hits as well
7. Harrison was voted as the dirtiest player in the league by the other players
8. Moss is, well, Moss
9. The majority of their fans are just Red Sox fans who don't want to sober up in September. Once they have a 9-7 season, there will be no Pats fans.

Yeah, the Pats get it right on the field and we don't. But they're also a collection of jackasses and neither they nor their fans deserve the success.

[HHURRICANE]

Picking up the best free agents available is a brilliant move? I think what they gave up for Welker and Moss was brilliant- or really stupid by the other teams GM's. The Bills can take some pride in bulilding the dynasty giving them the 15th pick in the draft so they didnt have to cut Bledsoe.

Moss wasn't a risky move? Remember the rumors that he was going to get cut?

Forcing Miami's hand on Welker wasn't brilliant?

Stallworth was supposedly washed up?

Adalius Thomas is one of the most versatile defensive players in the league. Ravens didn't miss him?

Just wait til they make their cuts in a few weeks. You'll have shockers like Bruschi because they are committed to winning.

The Bills reward players like Schobel who already had a new contract so we can get 6 scaks.

[DMBcrew36]

the Pats don't deserve their success.

1. They cheated
2. Bellicheck is a condescending ass
3. Brady is a whiner
4. Seau is a turncoat douche who acts like he won the SB after every tackle
5. Wilfork got fined twice for dirty hits this year
6. Vrabel got fined for dirty hits as well
7. Harrison was voted as the dirtiest player in the league by the other players
8. Moss is, well, Moss
9. The majority of their fans are just Red Sox fans who don't want to sober up in September. Once they have a 9-7 season, there will be no Pats fans.

Yeah, the Pats get it right on the field and we don't. But they're also a collection of jackasses and neither they nor their fans deserve the success.

I nominate this as post of the year.

[HHURRICANE]

the Pats don't deserve their success.

1. They cheated
2. Bellicheck is a condescending ass
3. Brady is a whiner
4. Seau is a turncoat douche who acts like he won the SB after every tackle
5. Wilfork got fined twice for dirty hits this year
6. Vrabel got fined for dirty hits as well
7. Harrison was voted as the dirtiest player in the league by the other players
8. Moss is, well, Moss
9. The majority of their fans are just Red Sox fans who don't want to sober up in September. Once they have a 9-7 season, there will be no Pats fans.

Yeah, the Pats get it right on the field and we don't. But they're also a collection of jackasses and neither they nor their fans deserve the success.

Maybe you can recite this during their SuperBowl victory in two weeks.

I like winning and the Bills are in dire need of a playoff birth.

[m1orenz]

Moss wasn't a risky move? Remember the rumors that he was going to get cut?

Forcing Miami's hand on Welker wasn't brilliant?

Stallworth was supposedly washed up?

Adalius Thomas is one of the most versatile defensive players in the league. Ravens didn't miss him?

Just wait til they make their cuts in a few weeks. You'll have shockers like Bruschi because they are committed to winning.

The Bills reward players like Schobel who already had a new contract so we can get 6 scaks.

adalius didnt have anything close to a good year. He was barely thier 3rd best LB this yr (colvin, vrabel were definitly better)

they did do a lot of things right but lets no give them credit for overpaying a ravens D product

[Dozerdog]

I really respect the job the Pats heve done the past 8 years. This franchise was almost a local joke under Victor Kiam- and they have built it from the ground up with excellent ownership and management.

Yeah, BB can be an ass to the press sometimes and is his own worst enemy with the PR- but all he does is win. He's not afraid to cut or get rid of someone who is a perceived "untouchable" on the roster (Bledsoe and Milloy come to mind) and manages to get ex-pro bowlers to come in at discount prices.

Yeah, some pof their fans can be obnoxious- but that can go for any team with a long string of success (like Yankees fans) but you can't blame the organization for that.

[The last buffalo fan]

Ok then........................ **** the pats!

[MTBillsFan]

It's the arrogance and smugness of everyone involved in the franchise that I hate. They are anything but humble.

[Philagape]

But I thought picking up big names didn't work! Remember the Redskins!

[mybills]

The Pats are everything I wish the Bills were.
:puke:
If my team acted like a bunch of dirty douchebags all year, I'd jump off the wagon.
I like the class that the Bills players possess. :up:

[don137]

People like to embrace winners. Look at Farve or Manning. So many people I talk to that are not fans of the Colts or Packers rooted for them in the playoffs because they are likeable. The Patriots do not have 'likeable' players. As stated many times before they have many players that are not good ambassadors to the game and good role models but are great players. People always root for these people to fail. The fact they have been so succesful and it shows in the players and in the fans by their arrogance.
This Patriots team will go down as one of the most hated teams in the history of sports (and one of the best too).

[FlyingDutchman]

Free agency is up to the players where they want to play. Its a little easier to court big name FA's to a top tier team on the brink of another Super Bowl with a future hall of fame quarterback, then it is to a team who hasnt sniffed the playoffs in ten years, has a shakey offense/QB and plays in a cold weather climate (and supposedly where theres nothing to do)

[Mitchy moo]

the Pats don't deserve their success.

1. They cheated
2. Bellicheck is a condescending ass
3. Brady is a whiner
4. Seau is a turncoat douche who acts like he won the SB after every tackle
5. Wilfork got fined twice for dirty hits this year
6. Vrabel got fined for dirty hits as well
7. Harrison was voted as the dirtiest player in the league by the other players
8. Moss is, well, Moss
9. The majority of their fans are just Red Sox fans who don't want to sober up in September. Once they have a 9-7 season, there will be no Pats fans.

Yeah, the Pats get it right on the field and we don't. But they're also a collection of jackasses and neither they nor their fans deserve the success.

I second this for post of the year.

[HHURRICANE]

Free agency is up to the players where they want to play. Its a little easier to court big name FA's to a top tier team on the brink of another Super Bowl with a future hall of fame quarterback, then it is to a team who hasnt sniffed the playoffs in ten years, has a shakey offense/QB and plays in a cold weather climate (and supposedly where theres nothing to do)

I remember when no one wanted to go the Pats. That argument donesn't wash. Every team starts somewhere.

[TacklingDummy]

the Pats don't deserve their success.

1. They cheated


You know why the NFL didn't make that big of a deal out of the Patroits being caught video taping and trying to steal the other teams signs?

Because they all do it.

[HHURRICANE]

People like to embrace winners. Look at Farve or Manning. So many people I talk to that are not fans of the Colts or Packers rooted for them in the playoffs because they are likeable. The Patriots do not have 'likeable' players. As stated many times before they have many players that are not good ambassadors to the game and good role models but are great players. People always root for these people to fail. The fact they have been so succesful and it shows in the players and in the fans by their arrogance.
This Patriots team will go down as one of the most hated teams in the history of sports (and one of the best too).

Do you remember the Steelers and Raiders in the 70's? Same thing.

Hate the teams that dominate and win.

Sorry, but if this team was wearing Bills uni's this board wouldn't be saying a thing about class and likability.

[Oldbillsfan]

Moss wasn't a risky move? Remember the rumors that he was going to get cut?

Forcing Miami's hand on Welker wasn't brilliant?

Stallworth was supposedly washed up?

Adalius Thomas is one of the most versatile defensive players in the league. Ravens didn't miss him?

Just wait til they make their cuts in a few weeks. You'll have shockers like Bruschi because they are committed to winning.

The Bills reward players like Schobel who already had a new contract so we can get 6 scaks.

How as trading a 5th round pick for Moss a risk for the Pats? They paid him next to nothing and could have cut his ass anytime they saw fit. Considering how good he made Culpepper look I wouldn't have minded if the Bills picked him up.

I was agreeing the Welker and Moss trades were brilliant on the Pats part beacuse they robbed the Dolphins and the Raiders. Just like how the Bills gave up their first for Bledsoe. Another brilliant move was trading first round picks with S.F. last offseason and turing it into a top 10 pick this offseason.

I don't think cuttng someone like Bruski is gonna be a shock, he is old and can be replaced. Question is whose first round pick will they get for Sameuls? lol

[TacklingDummy]

Sorry, but if this team was wearing Bills uni's this board wouldn't be saying a thing about class and likability.

I don't recall all the hatred for the Bills when they went to 4 Super Bowls in a row. Maybe because the internet wasn't around back then.

[HHURRICANE]

How as trading a 5th round pick for Moss a risk for the Pats? They paid him next to nothing and could have cut his ass anytime they saw fit.

You and I pretty much agree on everything here.

Lot of teams and fans on this board thought Randy was going to be a cancer. He turned out to be the answer so give the Pats credit for taking a chance even if you feel they didn't have much to lose.

[HHURRICANE]

I don't recall all the hatred for the Bills when they went to 4 Super Bowls in a row. Maybe because the internet wasn't around back then.

The fans of other teams loved the Bills. Especially when Bruce and Cornelius were dancing all over the field when they sacked somebody. They were so loved, ahhh the memories.

[mybills]

if this team was wearing Bills uni's this board wouldn't be saying a thing about class and likability.
no, just this broad.
I'm glad Evans never pushes off a defender to get a TD.
I'm glad our defense doesn't use their elbows on QB's knees.
I'm glad we win games without ref's help.
I'm glad our QB isn't :limp:
etc...etc...etc...

[HHURRICANE]

no, just this broad.
I'm glad Evans never pushes off a defender to get a TD.
I'm glad our defense doesn't use their elbows on QB's knees.
I'm glad we win games without ref's help.
I'm glad our QB isn't :limp:
etc...etc...etc...

You forgot:

I'm glad we keep losing.

[mybills]

I'm glad we keep losing.
You are? I'm not. :sadwalk:

[Oldbillsfan]

Lot of teams and fans on this board hoped Randy was going to be a cancer. He turned out to be the answer so give the Pats credit for taking a chance even if you feel they didn't have much to lose.

I fixed it for ya...lol

They didn't take much of a chance at all. Minimal risk, huge reward. Instead he was a gift from the Raiders, just like Welker was a gift from the Dolphins.

[TacklingDummy]

I'm glad our QB isn't :limp:


It depends which Bills QB you are talking about.

Brady has been linked to Gisele Bundchen and has a baby with Bridget Moynahan.

Just another 2 reasons to hate/envy the guy.

[OpIv37]

You know why the NFL didn't make that big of a deal out of the Patroits being caught video taping and trying to steal the other teams signs?

Because they all do it.

then the NFL needs to either enforce the rule or change the rule because it's not working. But the Patriots still got caught violating an NFL rule- the fact that other teams do it too doesn't change the fact that the Patriots cheated.

[FlyingDutchman]

I remember when no one wanted to go the Pats. That argument donesn't wash. Every team starts somewhere.

oh yes it does, are you crazy? Why do you think when we were in our prime we were able to land people like James Lofton, Jim Jeffcoat and so on.....bc of the great buffalo wings? so youre donte stallworth and you have the option of going to buffalo to be with jp losman and a mediocore team IN BUFFALO, or go to new england/Boston and play with brady and have a legit shot at the super bowl every year....yeah youre right, its the front offices fault for not getting them to sign here.

[HHURRICANE]

oh yes it does, are you crazy? Why do you think when we were in our prime we were able to land people like James Lofton, Jim Jeffcoat and so on.....bc of the great buffalo wings? so youre donte stallworth and you have the option of going to buffalo to be with jp losman and a mediocore team IN BUFFALO, or go to new england/Boston and play with brady and have a legit shot at the super bowl every year....yeah youre right, its the front offices fault for not getting them to sign here.

You are missing the point. Colts, Chargers, Pats were all teams that at one time couldn't attract talent. They figured it out. Hell the Bills were there in the early 80's.

Seems like it has more to do with the GM.

[X-Era]

Sorry guys but the "I hate the Pats" or "Pats ar gay" threads are somewhat pathetic.

The Pats take chances and count on their coach to mesh the team together. Picking up Moss, Adalius, Welker, and Stallworth were brilliant moves.

The Bills continue to play it safe. Peerless Price, nice FA pick up.

I for one am sick of watching our team flounder and certainly am not going to take anything away from the Pats.

OK, but I have made my vow :negrep:

[X-Era]

How as trading a 5th round pick for Moss a risk for the Pats? They paid him next to nothing and could have cut his ass anytime they saw fit. Considering how good he made Culpepper look I wouldn't have minded if the Bills picked him up.

I was agreeing the Welker and Moss trades were brilliant on the Pats part beacuse they robbed the Dolphins and the Raiders. Just like how the Bills gave up their first for Bledsoe. Another brilliant move was trading first round picks with S.F. last offseason and turing it into a top 10 pick this offseason.

I don't think cuttng someone like Bruski is gonna be a shock, he is old and can be replaced. Question is whose first round pick will they get for Sameuls? lol

:negrep:

[imbondz]

well, i'm not going to rip on the Pats, or lower myself to stupid smack talk which is really just a sign of jealousy, but I have some friends in the Boston area, and they've heard from a bunch of people, that Brady and some of the offensive lineman watch child porn.

i'm just saying.

[X-Era]

well, i'm not going to rip on the Pats, or lower myself to stupid smack talk which is really just a sign of jealousy, but I have some friends in the Boston area, and they've heard from a bunch of people, that Brady and some of the offensive lineman watch child porn.

i'm just saying.

With Brady its probably his own kids... you know... the ones from his babies momma's

[gr8slayer]

Sorry guys but the "I hate the Pats" or "Pats ar gay" threads are somewhat pathetic.

The Pats take chances and count on their coach to mesh the team together. Picking up Moss, Adalius, Welker, and Stallworth were brilliant moves.

The Bills continue to play it safe. Peerless Price, nice FA pick up.

I for one am sick of watching our team flounder and certainly am not going to take anything away from the Pats.
Everybody hates number one.

Just goes to show you what good ownership can do for a team.

[Bmax]

There are 29 NFL teams that i don't like ...This is not about jealousy

Two that i hate ....Pats -Cowboys..

And only one that I love no matter what..Bills

If you like other teams that that's your business..Cool....Good Luck with your number 2 AFC or # 1 NFC team....

Fairweather fans come and go....

I have been a Bills Fan for 39 years.... I will be a fan forever or as long as the Buffalo Bills are The Buffalo Bills...................

Bmax

[BillsFever21]

Sorry guys but the "I hate the Pats" or "Pats ar gay" threads are somewhat pathetic.

The Pats take chances and count on their coach to mesh the team together. Picking up Moss, Adalius, Welker, and Stallworth were brilliant moves.

The Bills continue to play it safe. Peerless Price, nice FA pick up.

I for one am sick of watching our team flounder and certainly am not going to take anything away from the Pats.

It's just jealousy to the fact that they will win as many games THIS YEAR then our horrible team has won in THREE YEARS.

I dislike the Pats just as much as anybody but you have to tip your hat to them. They are a very smart ran franchise and willing to do whatever it takes to get better.

[X-Era]

It's just jealousy to the fact that they will win as many games THIS YEAR then our horrible team has won in THREE YEARS.

I dislike the Pats just as much as anybody but you have to tip your hat to them. They are a very smart ran franchise and willing to do whatever it takes to get better.

:negrep:

[mybills]

It depends which Bills QB you are talking about.

Brady has been linked to Gisele Bundchen and has a baby with Bridget Moynahan.

Yeah, linked through a sperm bank.
:limp:

[DynaPaul]

I'll start respecting the Pats once the refs treat them like any other team. Until then they can kiss my natural white ass.

[colin]

i hate the pats.

i respect how smart the organization is, but i hate them for being dirty.

they play dirty, they cheat. they get more breaks than any other team. they push every rule as far as they can all the time. their players are sub human trash, wilfork and harrison (along with others) are some of the dirtiest scumbags to ever put on pads. they also have the biggest jerkoff scumbag fans in the nfl.

the best thing would be for brady to get speared right on the crown of his head and have a re-occuring brain injury, just like the kind that billecheat forced ted johnson into having.

[jmb1099]

You know why the NFL didn't make that big of a deal out of the Patroits being caught video taping and trying to steal the other teams signs?

Because they all do it.
Here's a little conspiracy theory for you: The embarrassment that the NFL really needed to avoid was Billy exposing the Officials the same way the NBA was exposed earlier in the year. Can you imagine the press conference:
"Yes its true, I cheated, but if you thought the cameras were bad, just wait until I explain the part the officials played in all of this and in every game in the season"

So in order to keep Billy quiet they slapped him on the wrist, continued helping them toward their perfect season with questionable officiating, and stand to make a ton of money off of the marketing of it all.

[mybills]

I'll start respecting the Pats once the refs treat them like any other team. Until then they can kiss my natural white ass.
This is the biggest problem I have with that team. Forget the video stuff that they all do, that can't possibly help them as much as this does. I swear they pay the refs, and Craft is rich enough to call it "pocket" change.

[M]

Don't rip on 'em, just hate 'em. That's what I do.

[BillsFever21]

You guys need to get a grip on this. We all hate them but continuing to make insane comments like this EVERY year is just off the wall.

Do you really think the NFL would sacrifice their game to be in cahoots with any team to aid them into a perfect season or SB victory? Do you really think they could keep every ref, coach and/or player quiet for all of eternity? Any claims would ruin the sport for good.

It's different with a certain referee(s) doing some shady stuff on their own and trying to shift the outcome of a game but the league itself? Get real.

Good teams make their own breaks. People who hate them for being good try and come up with conspiracy theories as to why they are good.

Some need to face the facts that the officiating in the NFL is questionable every single game. This is from poor officials. If you want to incriminate the NFL for having some poor officials go ahead, but if you want to try and spin the facts as being a league wide conspiracy then that is just plain ******ed.

I know how the story goes with some here though. The refs are always in cahoots to screw the Bills on purpose and to reward the Patriots. It sounds like jealousy to me though.

[mybills]

Don't rip on 'em, just hate 'em. That's what I do.
:hi5: