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  • xXSpIkes5IXx
    Registered User
    • Mar 2006
    • 247

    I'm sick of all this negativity.

    7-9 teams are generally not too far from the playoffs, so i really dont understand the logic that we need to make dirastic moves.

    To make our team a legit playoff team, i think we need 4 players.

    A run stuffing defensive tackle

    Another quality linebacker

    Another quality cornerback

    One more threat in the passing game, whether it is a reciever or a tight end.

    The building blocks are there. We have a stud running a back, a legit #1 wide reciever, a probowl left tackle. 2 quality defensive starters returning from injury in Simpson and Poz. The only thing that is holding us back is the thing that has been holding us back for the last decade.

    INCONSISTANT QUARTERBACK PLAY.

    Since the day Jim Kelly walked into the sunset, we have not had a true quarterback, except for maybe Flutie. In the 8 year playoff drought, Johnson, Bledsoe, and Losman all were terribly inconsistant, we need stability at the position. If Trent Edwards can become that Quarterback we WILL be a playoff team, mark my words.

    If we make quality moves in the offseason (always a question mark), we have an easier schedule next year playoffs can be a reality in '08. I think that is why Schonert was promoted, to keep continuity, rather than having to learn a whole new offense with a second year Quarterback at the helm.
  • HHURRICANE
    Registered User
    • Mar 2005
    • 15490

    #2
    Re: I'm sick of all this negativity.

    Did you watch the playoffs?

    We are not 4 players away.

    It's funny but everybody kept saying we needed one more DT to compliment Tripplett. We got him, he played well, and we still sucked. Now, we just need one more and we'll be great. That's ridculous logic.


    CB is the least of our problems. When you don't get to the QB, and you play Brady twice a year, you might want to actually get some DEs that can get to the QB. How good would are secondary play be had our sack total been double?

    One more reciever to compliment Parrish, Reed, and ????

    We are 10 players away, not 4.

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    • xXSpIkes5IXx
      Registered User
      • Mar 2006
      • 247

      #3
      Re: I'm sick of all this negativity.

      Tripplett sucks, he should be on the bench next season, John McCargo should be the one starting.

      Secondly, Brady's Pats this season are one of the best teams ever, no one has beaten them. Saying we need to add the players to beat them is like saying we need to become the best team in history....

      We do have the 2nd best pass rushing defensive end in Bills history on our squad, granted he did have an off year, and with our banged up secondary, we couldnt really afford to blitz the linebackers as much cause they were needed in coverage. Digiorgio and Ellison are solid depth players, they shouldnt be starting, theres a huge problem with the pass rush right there.

      You are just off base the freaking Miami Dolphins are 10 players away, from sniffing the playoffs, not us.

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      • gr8slayer
        Registered User
        • Feb 2005
        • 20796

        #4
        Re: I'm sick of all this negativity.

        You don't understand it? I don't understand how any team goes as long as we have with out a Super Bowl win or even a play-off birth.

        We as fans have plenty to be pissed off about.

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        • Buffatexas
          Registered User
          • Aug 2002
          • 862

          #5
          Re: I'm sick of all this negativity.

          Originally posted by gr8slayer
          You don't understand it? I don't understand how any team goes as long as we have with out a Super Bowl win or even a play-off birth.

          We as fans have plenty to be pissed off about.
          I dont think you can factor a SB win or even an appearance in this conversation.
          Yeah, we have a right to be ticked about not getting into the playoffs, but when you talk SB, you have teams that have never even been there let alone with in the past 20 years.

          Arizona, Cincinnatti, Detroit, Cleveland, KC, Carolina, Jax, and the list goes on...

          i agree about the playoff berth thing thougn, been way too long and there should be no more excuses.

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          • yordad
            Registered User
            • Dec 2007
            • 11867

            #6
            Re: I'm sick of all this negativity.

            I think this team could make the playoff with very few offseason moves. Health and adaquate coaching should be enough. Additions and a solid draft could make us real contenders, not just wild card round losers though.

            We are close. We are building. We are moving in the right direction, IMO.
            "Heck, now I am glad his overrated arce made the pro bowl, else we would have only got a 3rd." ~ yordad

            "I've just been hit with a piece of sky. " ~ yordad

            "Forgive my opinion, but...." ~ yordad

            "Warning: I might be hammered." ~ yordad

            "I don't care if the word is "your" or "you're", so buzz off. Its (it's) a frickin(') message board." ~ yordad

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            • Mitchy moo
              Roways rooking ahread!
              • Sep 2005
              • 18380

              #7
              Re: I'm sick of all this negativity.

              Originally posted by yordad
              I think this team could make the playoff with very few offseason moves. Health and adaquate coaching should be enough. Additions and a solid draft could make us real contenders, not just wild card round losers though.

              We are close. We are building. We are moving in the right direction, IMO.
              We get 15 guys on IR, are nearly .500 and we are far away?? We need to massage what we have and add about 4 players, agreed.

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              • X-Era
                What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
                • Feb 2005
                • 27670

                #8
                Re: I'm sick of all this negativity.

                Originally posted by HHURRICANE
                Did you watch the playoffs?

                We are not 4 players away.

                It's funny but everybody kept saying we needed one more DT to compliment Tripplett. We got him, he played well, and we still sucked. Now, we just need one more and we'll be great. That's ridculous logic.


                CB is the least of our problems. When you don't get to the QB, and you play Brady twice a year, you might want to actually get some DEs that can get to the QB. How good would are secondary play be had our sack total been double?

                One more reciever to compliment Parrish, Reed, and ????

                We are 10 players away, not 4.
                Ridic man.

                Name the stars on the Giants team. I honestly think we go head to head with them in almost every position. They have Shockey, Osi, Strahan, and who? We didnt get "playoffs Eli" this year from Trent, thats true. But id rather have this years Trent over last years Eli and I still would pick Trent over this years regular season Eli.

                Seriously, Plax is no better in the regular season than Evans when our QB is playing steady.

                I dont see 10 players, I see much more like 4. The key is that those 4 be stars IMO, not average players.

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                • HAMMER
                  I'm right, Miyagi is wrong.
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 8132

                  #9
                  Re: I'm sick of all this negativity.

                  HH and GR8 have vaulted to the forefront of zone whiners.

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                  • gr8slayer
                    Registered User
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 20796

                    #10
                    Re: I'm sick of all this negativity.

                    Originally posted by Buffatexas
                    I dont think you can factor a SB win or even an appearance in this conversation.
                    Yeah, we have a right to be ticked about not getting into the playoffs, but when you talk SB, you have teams that have never even been there let alone with in the past 20 years.

                    Arizona, Cincinnatti, Detroit, Cleveland, KC, Carolina, Jax, and the list goes on...

                    i agree about the playoff berth thing thougn, been way too long and there should be no more excuses.
                    So? I'm not a fan of those teams, I'm a fan of the Buffalo Bills and until they are number one I won't be satisfied, I'm not satisfied with mediocrity.

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                    • gr8slayer
                      Registered User
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 20796

                      #11
                      Re: I'm sick of all this negativity.

                      Originally posted by HAMMER
                      HH and GR8 have vaulted to the forefront of zone whiners.
                      Keep being happy with being second best, you'll be working for me someday

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                      • raphael120
                        Jason Peters rigorous at home training regiment
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 5152

                        #12
                        Re: I'm sick of all this negativity.

                        Originally posted by Buffatexas
                        I dont think you can factor a SB win or even an appearance in this conversation.
                        Yeah, we have a right to be ticked about not getting into the playoffs, but when you talk SB, you have teams that have never even been there let alone with in the past 20 years.

                        Arizona, Cincinnatti, Detroit, Cleveland, KC, Carolina, Jax, and the list goes on...

                        i agree about the playoff berth thing thougn, been way too long and there should be no more excuses.
                        Cincy was in Superbowl XVI.

                        KC was in Superbowl I.

                        Carolina was in Super Bowl XXXVIII

                        New Orleans never went to a Superbowl though, nor have the Texans.

                        So Arizona, Detroit, Cleveland, Jax, New Orleans, and the Texans are the 6 teams that havent.

                        Just clearin up the facts.

                        Thats close to 1 out of every 6 teams out of the NFL. Never knew that.

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                        • Buffatexas
                          Registered User
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 862

                          #13
                          Re: I'm sick of all this negativity.

                          Originally posted by raphael120
                          Cincy was in Superbowl XVI.

                          KC was in Superbowl I.

                          Carolina was in Super Bowl XXXVIII

                          New Orleans never went to a Superbowl though, nor have the Texans.

                          So Arizona, Detroit, Cleveland, Jax, New Orleans, and the Texans are the 6 teams that havent.

                          Just clearin up the facts.

                          Thats close to 1 out of every 6 teams out of the NFL. Never knew that.
                          please re-read my sentence about teams not being in the SB within the past 20 years. I gaffed on Carolina though
                          Last edited by Buffatexas; 01-24-2008, 07:34 AM.

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                          • Buffatexas
                            Registered User
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 862

                            #14
                            Re: I'm sick of all this negativity.

                            Originally posted by gr8slayer
                            So? I'm not a fan of those teams, I'm a fan of the Buffalo Bills and until they are number one I won't be satisfied, I'm not satisfied with mediocrity.
                            Just curious, if NE loses the SB this year, are they mediocre?

                            I never said you were a fan of any of those teams. Just pointing out that the Bills are not the only team in the league that has not won a SB but at least they were there. And dont sit there and put words in my mouth. I want a Bills win in the SB just as bad as anyone else but I will not sit here and bash them as long as I feel that they are making changes in order to get themselves to that point. And for the record, i do not agree with the FO's latest round of moves except the Turk promotion.

                            Teams get breaks, Miami did in the 70's, NE has gotten them since 2001, and I am sure we got ours in the first half of the 90's. That is the way it goes.

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                            • mybills
                              81 st zoner
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 61717

                              #15
                              Re: I'm sick of all this negativity.

                              Originally posted by EdwardsEra
                              Ridic man.

                              Name the stars on the Giants team. I honestly think we go head to head with them in almost every position. They have Shockey, Osi, Strahan, and who? We didnt get "playoffs Eli" this year from Trent, thats true. But id rather have this years Trent over last years Eli and I still would pick Trent over this years regular season Eli.

                              Seriously, Plax is no better in the regular season than Evans when our QB is playing steady.

                              I dont see 10 players, I see much more like 4. The key is that those 4 be stars IMO, not average players.
                              They have Shockey, Plax and Toomer. We have Evans and (?).
                              I didn't come here to fight, I hate fighting. Life is way too short to spend it on fighting! Go fight with yourself, one of you will eventually win!

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