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Bellichick challenged that 12 men on the field call, but no flags were thrown to start with. I didn't realize that you could challenge a call that was not made.
Could you throw the red flag and tell the officials to review a holding call that wasn't called as well? Were the rules bent last night?
Yes, you can challenge a call that was not made. I've seen that exact scenario play out during the regular season. No rules were bent.
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If that's the case I would expect to see a lot more challenges on offensive holding calls, or pass interference calls that weren't called. But I don't, not once.
If that's the case I would expect to see a lot more challenges on offensive holding calls, or pass interference calls that weren't called. But I don't, not once.
you can't challenge a holding call
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It makes a little bit of sense since 12 men on the field is a concrete thing - there's either 12 or there isn't. Holding and PI are both calls that require a certain amount of judgment/subjectivity on the part of the officials.
Maybe this should be called the "Cowher" rule. Anyone remember him a number of years ago protecting a 12 men on the field call against the Steelers! He even ran up to the official afterward and showed in pictures. There were only 11. Maybe that's also where the idea for that recent commercial came from, the one where the Football official apologizes for blowing a call, but promises to the make up for it in the second half by penalizing the other team for no good reason....
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PI and Holding are objective calls that are non-reviewable as its up to the officials own determination to make the call. Twelve men on the field is not at all objective.
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PI and Holding are objective calls that are non-reviewable as its up to the officials own determination to make the call. Twelve men on the field is not at all objective.
You mean to say subjective, but thanks for clarifying.
and i thought for sure that was gonna turn the game. how many times have you seen the cheats take a situation like that and make it the turning point. usually they score within a couple plays and roll from there
It is a garbage call because the player had not consequence on the play. What's the difference between a player running off the field and being on the field when the play starts and players going on to the field to get a better view of a kick off return or punt return which happens all the time. The players are on the field during the play in both situations but its never called when the player steps on the field to watch a play.
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