If RW pulls off keeping the Bills in Buffalo and gets a new stadium.....

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  • Mitchy moo
    Roways rooking ahread!
    • Sep 2005
    • 18380

    If RW pulls off keeping the Bills in Buffalo and gets a new stadium.....

    Will you feel like dogsheet for basically calling him a POS and tearing him apart??

    The plan according to RW is to keep the team in Buffalo, just like he has always done.
  • LifetimeBillsFan
    All-Pro Zoner
    • Aug 2004
    • 4946

    #2
    Re: If RW pulls off keeping the Bills in Buffalo and gets a new stadium.....

    I haven't called R.Wilson a POS to this point, but, if he manages to keep the Bills in Buffalo until he dies and somehow makes it possible for whoever buys the team to keep it based in Buffalo, I may nominate him for sainthood...well, at least, consider him one of the greatest businessmen in the history of WNY.

    On the other hand, if he moves the team before he dies or creates a situation where it is impossible for the team to kept in WNY by whoever buys the team from his estate, I would be banished forever from this messageboard for writing and posting half of what I would call R.Wilson--POS would be extremely mild compared to what I would be calling Ralph!!!
    Those who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it. And, thus it was that they surrendered their freedom; not with a bang, but without even a whimper.

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    • BADTHINGSMAN
      Registered User
      • Oct 2002
      • 10504

      #3
      Re: If RW pulls off keeping the Bills in Buffalo and gets a new stadium.....

      Originally posted by LifetimeBillsFan
      I haven't called R.Wilson a POS to this point, but, if he manages to keep the Bills in Buffalo until he dies and somehow makes it possible for whoever buys the team to keep it based in Buffalo, I may nominate him for sainthood...well, at least, consider him one of the greatest businessmen in the history of WNY.

      On the other hand, if he moves the team before he dies or creates a situation where it is impossible for the team to kept in WNY by whoever buys the team from his estate, I would be banished forever from this messageboard for writing and posting half of what I would call R.Wilson--POS would be extremely mild compared to what I would be calling Ralph!!!
      Ditto!!

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      • Jan Reimers
        Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
        • May 2003
        • 17353

        #4
        Re: If RW pulls off keeping the Bills in Buffalo and gets a new stadium.....

        Originally posted by LifetimeBillsFan
        I haven't called R.Wilson a POS to this point, but, if he manages to keep the Bills in Buffalo until he dies and somehow makes it possible for whoever buys the team to keep it based in Buffalo, I may nominate him for sainthood...well, at least, consider him one of the greatest businessmen in the history of WNY.

        On the other hand, if he moves the team before he dies or creates a situation where it is impossible for the team to kept in WNY by whoever buys the team from his estate, I would be banished forever from this messageboard for writing and posting half of what I would call R.Wilson--POS would be extremely mild compared to what I would be calling Ralph!!!
        I'm right with you, LTBF.
        Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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        • SquishDaFish
          Lets GO BUFFALO!!
          • Jun 2005
          • 17034

          #5
          Re: If RW pulls off keeping the Bills in Buffalo and gets a new stadium.....

          I agree with LTBF

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          • THATHURMANATOR
            Registered User
            • Jul 2002
            • 69112

            #6
            Re: If RW pulls off keeping the Bills in Buffalo and gets a new stadium.....

            Originally posted by Skooby
            Will you feel like dogsheet for basically calling him a POS and tearing him apart??

            The plan according to RW is to keep the team in Buffalo, just like he has always done.
            Yes.

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            • Michael82
              Registered User
              • Jul 2002
              • 82328

              #7
              Re: If RW pulls off keeping the Bills in Buffalo and gets a new stadium.....

              Originally posted by LifetimeBillsFan
              I haven't called R.Wilson a POS to this point, but, if he manages to keep the Bills in Buffalo until he dies and somehow makes it possible for whoever buys the team to keep it based in Buffalo, I may nominate him for sainthood...well, at least, consider him one of the greatest businessmen in the history of WNY.

              On the other hand, if he moves the team before he dies or creates a situation where it is impossible for the team to kept in WNY by whoever buys the team from his estate, I would be banished forever from this messageboard for writing and posting half of what I would call R.Wilson--POS would be extremely mild compared to what I would be calling Ralph!!!
              Another great post, man!

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              • Don't Panic
                All-Pro Zoner
                • Dec 2005
                • 4227

                #8
                Re: If RW pulls off keeping the Bills in Buffalo and gets a new stadium.....

                By the way, there will be no new stadium... at least not in the next 15 years. In order for there to be a new stadium, there will need to be an economic renaissance in Buffalo first. Although I'm hopeful, I'm also realistic that that is a pretty improbable outcome. If the Bills stay, they'll be playing in the Ralph through AT LEAST 2020.

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                • HHURRICANE
                  Registered User
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 15490

                  #9
                  Re: If RW pulls off keeping the Bills in Buffalo and gets a new stadium.....

                  LTBF nailed it!!!

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                  • THATHURMANATOR
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 69112

                    #10
                    Re: If RW pulls off keeping the Bills in Buffalo and gets a new stadium.....

                    The Ralph is good for another 10 years at least.

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                    • gr8slayer
                      Registered User
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 20796

                      #11
                      Re: If RW pulls off keeping the Bills in Buffalo and gets a new stadium.....

                      What is it with you all and this idea that we must have a new stadium? I personally thought the Ralph was awesome, it's better than Texas Stadium I'll tell you that much (not the new one but the current one hell yeah.)

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                      • Michael82
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 82328

                        #12
                        Re: If RW pulls off keeping the Bills in Buffalo and gets a new stadium.....

                        Originally posted by gr8slayer
                        What is it with you all and this idea that we must have a new stadium? I personally thought the Ralph was awesome, it's better than Texas Stadium I'll tell you that much (not the new one but the current one hell yeah.)
                        I agree. There is nothing wrong with Ralph Wilson Stadium. It could use a couple improvements to the restrooms and the concession stands, but that's about it. I have no doubt that it could be used for another 15-20 years without getting a new stadium.

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                        • gr8slayer
                          Registered User
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 20796

                          #13
                          Re: If RW pulls off keeping the Bills in Buffalo and gets a new stadium.....

                          Originally posted by Mikey82
                          I agree. There is nothing wrong with Ralph Wilson Stadium. It could use a couple improvements to the restrooms and the concession stands, but that's about it. I have no doubt that it could be used for another 15-20 years without getting a new stadium.
                          There's no 20 years about it, shut it down for a year like the Bears did with Soldier and upgrade the hell out of it and make it a freaking landmark. I've been to enough of the NFL stadiums to know that the older ones like Arrow Head, Lambeau, Soldier, hell even the Super Dome, feel more like football.

                          Everyone pushing for a new stadium and talking about a Super Bowl going to Buffalo needs to just shut up, Buffalo will never get a Super Bowl no matter what kind of stadium they build.

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                          • MikeInRoch
                            Registered User
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 10446

                            #14
                            Re: If RW pulls off keeping the Bills in Buffalo and gets a new stadium.....

                            Originally posted by LifetimeBillsFan
                            I haven't called R.Wilson a POS to this point, but, if he manages to keep the Bills in Buffalo until he dies and somehow makes it possible for whoever buys the team to keep it based in Buffalo, I may nominate him for sainthood...well, at least, consider him one of the greatest businessmen in the history of WNY.

                            On the other hand, if he moves the team before he dies or creates a situation where it is impossible for the team to kept in WNY by whoever buys the team from his estate, I would be banished forever from this messageboard for writing and posting half of what I would call R.Wilson--POS would be extremely mild compared to what I would be calling Ralph!!!
                            The problem is that those really aren't the only two options. The situation where it is tough to keep the Bills in town was not actually a situation created by Ralph. Most likely to me is that Ralph, despite good intentions, will not be able to find a way to keep the team in town.
                            "'Clean up your room.', 'Stand up straight.', 'Pick up your feet.', 'Take it like a man.', 'Be nice to your sister.', 'Don't mix beer and wine, ever.'. Oh yeah, 'Don't drive on the railroad track.'"

                            "Eh, Phil. That's one I happen to agree with."

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                            • trapezeus
                              Legendary Zoner
                              • Oct 2004
                              • 19525

                              #15
                              Re: If RW pulls off keeping the Bills in Buffalo and gets a new stadium.....

                              this is presupposing that Ralph is calling the county and state's bluff. And he's pushing the county and state into action on a stadium. It's an insane gamble with Roger just waiting for everything to fall through.

                              If ralph wanted to keep the team in Buffalo, he'd sell parts of the team now and maintain his ownership. This would allow him to deal with some of the tax issues now. And have a plan in place.

                              it is utterly shameful for any company with a leader past his 60's to not have a contingency plan. Anyone who says, it's his team he can do what he likes, thoroughly has no clue how companies run today. By keeping it open ended the people who will bid on this have to really fight to figure out the structure they are buying. It gives rogers an inside track since he's at least worked with part of the bills organization.

                              sorry this is really a big ramble. But bottom line, i really don't think ralph is getting a stadium deal in place. he's just juicing the potential value of his team so that his family can get $800-$1BN for the team as opposed to the paltry $700MM and have to pay taxes that would otherwise help the area.

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