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Forked Thread: Why did you leave? Why don't you come back?
This got me thinking.....how many of y'all are originally from the Buffalo area, regardless of where you live now?
i'm from Orchard Park.
and this got me thinking...
It's great having a lot of folks who post here being from other areas and still rooting for the Bills but how about the city? Why did folks leave Buffalo in the first place? Why don't they come back?
For all the education and practice each of us undergoes, the achievment of mastery is ultimately the outcome of a personal quest for understanding.
Re: Forked Thread: Why did you leave? Why don't you come back?
I came back but economics are indeed making it tough to survive. I keep turning on the local news and seeing all these plans for the waterfront and a downtown comeback but it's not getting done.
I take the wife downtown on a Saturday for a play and it's basically empty, outside of some homeless people following you for a handout. Without industry and a strong city, the suburbs suffer. High taxes and utilities plague this area, which is still stuck in thinking from 40 years ago.
We have so much potential but the city,county,state & fed. gov't is such a mess. Most locals are willing to do their share but our leaders are basically quitters who got their $$ and benefits and get too comfortable in their own selfish world. Too many healthy people, mostly trash, getting free handouts. A damn shame.
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Re: Forked Thread: Why did you leave? Why don't you come back?
I wish I could move back to Buffalo. But, in 1987, I developed a very rare, chronic, debilitating medical condition (not AIDS) that was not properly diagnosed or treated for more than three years. During that time, I came very close to dying on more than a couple of occasions. When my condition was finally diagnosed, I was told that most people with this illness do not survive more than 6 months without treatment.
While massive amounts of medications (I take more than 30 pills a day now) keep my illness from being life-threatening most of the time, there are times when the medications are unable to control it and, at those times--which can never be predicted, it can be fatal. Even when it isn't life-threatening, my condition can flare up at any time--sometimes only for a couple of hours--and be totally debilitating. As a result, I am unemployed and unemployable.
My illness--and the other medical problems caused by the medications used to control it and by the debilitating effects of it--needs to be closely monitored. One of the few MDs in the US, outside of the National Institute of Health, who specializes in treating people with this illness has her practice in NYC. While it is possible that I might be able to find a physician at Roswell Park or UB Medical School who would know enough about my particular medical condition to be able to monitor it, one of the reasons that I do not feel that it would be possible for me to move back to Buffalo is that my doctor in NYC is one of the best in the world in treating this illness and is totally familiar with how it expresses itself in my body (it effects different people who have it differently). A doctor with less familiarity with my illness and how it impacts me, may not be as able to some up with the proper treatment when my condition does become life-threatening.
Weather and environmental factors can also influence my illness. Even more than the climate, there are environmental factors (certain allergens common thorughout the area) in WNY that can and, when I visit, sometimes do cause my illness to flare up beyond levels that can be controlled by the medications. My ability to function and keep my illness from being life-threatening is already somewhat limited, were I to move back to the Buffalo area both would be even more limited.
Additionally, because of my illness, I have lost a lot of what I had worked for prior to its onset. Even though I was the youngest person ever certified to work in my profession (at the time I was certified), thanks to my illness and its additional effects, since its onset I have been unable to work in my profession and will never be able to work in it again. The cost of treatment, medications and medical insurance has severely restricted what my wife and I are able to do financially--to the point where, to keep us from going under financially in the future, my wife has pretty much nno choice but to remain at her present job until she reaches retirement age.
As much as we both like the Buffalo area and the people (including family members) there and wish that we could move there, for my wife and I moving back to WNY would be so physically and financially difficult that it is not something that we feel it would be prudent to do. Indeed, given the nature of my illness, for me, doing so could very well prove to be suicidal. And, that's not something that I am willing to take a chance with.
If I hadn't developed this illness, though, there's a pretty good chance that I would already be living in the Buffalo area because my wife and I had seriously talked about moving up to Buffalo just before I was hit by its onset.
I think WNY is a great place that has a lot to offer, especially now that the lake has been cleaned up a lot and a lot of the air pollution is gone.
Those who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it. And, thus it was that they surrendered their freedom; not with a bang, but without even a whimper.
Re: Forked Thread: Why did you leave? Why don't you come back?
I moved away after graduating from UB because my best job offer came from a company in - of all places - Erie, PA. I then subsequently moved several times to further my career.
I would love to move back to the Buffalo area, even from the beautiful Outer Banks, but my wife hates the snow and cold.
And one reason I would come back is that I believe Buffalo is on the cusp of a major revival. I know it's not there yet, things are still tough, and progress is slow, but the city is turning around. It may seem like glacial speed, but things are happening - with the canal and waterfront, Main Street, the Buffalo Niagara Medical Corridor, the expansion of UB, the creation of downtown lofts, apartments, condos, etc., and a number of other projects large and small.
I guess I'm less negative than many current and former Buffalonians, because I haven't lived through the years of decline. I really believe that things are about to get better for our city, however, if people will just give it a chance.
Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?
Re: Forked Thread: Why did you leave? Why don't you come back?
Originally posted by LifetimeBillsFan
I wish I could move back to Buffalo. But, in 1987, I developed a very rare, chronic, debilitating medical condition (not AIDS) that was not properly diagnosed or treated for more than three years. During that time, I came very close to dying on more than a couple of occasions. When my condition was finally diagnosed, I was told that most people with this illness do not survive more than 6 months without treatment.
While massive amounts of medications (I take more than 30 pills a day now) keep my illness from being life-threatening most of the time, there are times when the medications are unable to control it and, at those times--which can never be predicted, it can be fatal. Even when it isn't life-threatening, my condition can flare up at any time--sometimes only for a couple of hours--and be totally debilitating. As a result, I am unemployed and unemployable.
My illness--and the other medical problems caused by the medications used to control it and by the debilitating effects of it--needs to be closely monitored. One of the few MDs in the US, outside of the National Institute of Health, who specializes in treating people with this illness has her practice in NYC. While it is possible that I might be able to find a physician at Roswell Park or UB Medical School who would know enough about my particular medical condition to be able to monitor it, one of the reasons that I do not feel that it would be possible for me to move back to Buffalo is that my doctor in NYC is one of the best in the world in treating this illness and is totally familiar with how it expresses itself in my body (it effects different people who have it differently). A doctor with less familiarity with my illness and how it impacts me, may not be as able to some up with the proper treatment when my condition does become life-threatening.
Weather and environmental factors can also influence my illness. Even more than the climate, there are environmental factors (certain allergens common thorughout the area) in WNY that can and, when I visit, sometimes do cause my illness to flare up beyond levels that can be controlled by the medications. My ability to function and keep my illness from being life-threatening is already somewhat limited, were I to move back to the Buffalo area both would be even more limited.
Additionally, because of my illness, I have lost a lot of what I had worked for prior to its onset. Even though I was the youngest person ever certified to work in my profession (at the time I was certified), thanks to my illness and its additional effects, since its onset I have been unable to work in my profession and will never be able to work in it again. The cost of treatment, medications and medical insurance has severely restricted what my wife and I are able to do financially--to the point where, to keep us from going under financially in the future, my wife has pretty much nno choice but to remain at her present job until she reaches retirement age.
As much as we both like the Buffalo area and the people (including family members) there and wish that we could move there, for my wife and I moving back to WNY would be so physically and financially difficult that it is not something that we feel it would be prudent to do. Indeed, given the nature of my illness, for me, doing so could very well prove to be suicidal. And, that's not something that I am willing to take a chance with.
If I hadn't developed this illness, though, there's a pretty good chance that I would already be living in the Buffalo area because my wife and I had seriously talked about moving up to Buffalo just before I was hit by its onset.
I think WNY is a great place that has a lot to offer, especially now that the lake has been cleaned up a lot and a lot of the air pollution is gone.
Re: Forked Thread: Why did you leave? Why don't you come back?
i considered moving back south for a while cause i couldn't get used to the cold. then i almost died of hypothermia and ever since then it doesn't bother me. i haven't worn a winter coat in 2 years. personally i think the wny winters have been getting tamer each year
Re: Forked Thread: Why did you leave? Why don't you come back?
A handful of reasons led to the move. Personally, NY drives me up a wall with all it's regulations. I planned on becoming a teacher but they were making it increasingly difficult to do so in NY, so I chose to leave to go somewhere that would give me a better opportunity to do so. My wife is a massage therapist and business was not so great in WNY for her either... not a lot of demand and not enough people with excess money for such a thing. Down here, she does incredibly well with it.
Weather was another factor, I was sick of WNY winters and was happy to get away from them, though that alone would never be enough for me to leave. Additionally, the wife and I were just getting married and kind of wanted a fresh start, so we figured it was the best time to do so.
I'd like to come back to WNY, but I just don't see any way to make the same money we make down here, back home. So for the forseeable future, we stay here.
Re: Forked Thread: Why did you leave? Why don't you come back?
I left because my family moved to Albany and I was in school in Ohio. I had to move here permanently to get resident staus so I could get in-state tuition. My girlfriend (now wife) graduated before me and was already living in Cincinnati, so I moved here as well when I finished school.
There are several factors that keep me from moving back: maintaining my current income level, my wife's family is from here, and my parents are moving here this summer. While I would love to go back (and actually miss the WNY winters), there's no way it's going to happen.
Re: Forked Thread: Why did you leave? Why don't you come back?
I left and lived in the Tampa area for 14 years. Why? Well, I felt I had to get away. Bad relationships and I was heading down a road that I really did not want to go down. Long story short, I lost my grandfather in 2006 and inherited his home in WNY and decided to give it another shot. So instead of selling it, we moved back. I can honestly say that I am doing much better for myself and my family now that I am back in WNY.
I go back to my old stomping grounds in South Buffalo and I almost cry when I see that it looks like a warzone in certain spots. Certainly wasnt that way growing up.
Re: Forked Thread: Why did you leave? Why don't you come back?
I left western New York for a couple reasons....I enjoy the cold but not for 6 months out of the year. I enjoy doing outdoor activites (I have a tee time tomorrow). Plus, the economy is bad and I was sick of going to companies that constantly had layoffs (Bausch & Lomb, Xerox and Global Crossing). I never got aid off from those companies but got sick of worrying about it and realizing it is pretty mainstream across western NY so I took a voluntary buy out from Global Crossing and moved south.
Re: Forked Thread: Why did you leave? Why don't you come back?
Originally posted by BlackMetalNinja
A handful of reasons led to the move. Personally, NY drives me up a wall with all it's regulations. I planned on becoming a teacher but they were making it increasingly difficult to do so in NY, so I chose to leave to go somewhere that would give me a better opportunity to do so. My wife is a massage therapist and business was not so great in WNY for her either... not a lot of demand and not enough people with excess money for such a thing. Down here, she does incredibly well with it.
Weather was another factor, I was sick of WNY winters and was happy to get away from them, though that alone would never be enough for me to leave. Additionally, the wife and I were just getting married and kind of wanted a fresh start, so we figured it was the best time to do so.
I'd like to come back to WNY, but I just don't see any way to make the same money we make down here, back home. So for the forseeable future, we stay here.
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There's a common theme here, people are making more money outside of Buffalo than they would be in Buffalo. Maybe Ralph is right
I was going to move to Buffalo three years ago but during my visit there was told by the locals that I'll NEVER make the kind of money in Buffalo that I can in Dallas.
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