wow...compare these ticket prices:

[shelby]

Bills:
<TABLE width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=header2sm>Location</TD><TD class=header2sm>
Season Tickets
</TD><TD class=header2sm>
Individual Game
</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=body>Lower Level Sideline Center</TD><TD class=body>
$560 ($70/game)
</TD><TD class=body>
$77.00
</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=body>Lower Level Sideline II
Upper Level Center Rows 1-20</TD><TD class=body>
$480 ($60/game)
</TD><TD class=body>
$66.00
</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=body>Lower Level Corners
Upper Level Ends Rows 1-20</TD><TD class=body>
$408 ($51/game)
</TD><TD class=body>
$58.00
</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=body>Tunnel End Zone
Upper Level Center Rows 21-38</TD><TD class=body>
$360 ($45/game)
</TD><TD class=body>
$50.00
</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=body>Lower Level Scoreboard End Zone|
Club Level Corners</TD><TD class=body>
$320 ($40/game)
</TD><TD class=body>
$48.00
</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=body>Club Level Family Corner</TD><TD class=body>
$288 ($36/game)
</TD><TD class=body>
$38.00
</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=body>Upper Level Corners Rows 21-38</TD><TD class=body>
$280 ($35/game)
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$45.00
</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=body>"The Rock Pile: -
Club Level Scoreboard End Zone</TD><TD class=body>
$240 ($30/game)
</TD><TD class=body>
$36.00
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http://buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=5867


Bucs:


Ticket prices will rise anywhere from $5 to $23 across the board next season, the team announced today.
Season-ticket holders, however, received some positive news, as the team announced it will not require an additional seat deposit for original general season-ticket holders whose 10-year agreements ended after the 2007 season.
General admission tickets at Raymond James Stadium will cost $42, up from $31.50 last season. In addition, general ticket prices will be $99, $89, $85, $75, $65, $55 and $50.
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/feb/08/bucs-ticket-prices-rise/?news-breaking-yahoo

[BlackMetalNinja]

You have to have a Personal Seat License to get tickets for the Panthers, and that alone is not cheap...

[gr8slayer]

You have to have a Personal Seat License to get tickets for the Panthers, and that alone is not cheap...
It's going to be $50,000 for the new Texas Stadium, granted it lasts forty years but you still have to buy season tickets every year.

[Mr. Miyagi]

Those Bills tickets are still not expensive at all.

[bocephuz]

Here's what you have to do in Baltimore... just so you can get on a waiting list .. and when your time comes you have to pay for a PSL and then buy the tix each year

The Basics
An initial payment of $50 per seat is required to join.
A flat $25 annual maintenance fee is required for accounts not receiving seats in a given year.
A maximum of 6 PSLs are allowed per waiting list account.
All monies paid towards The List will be applied towards your eventual PSL purchase and are non-refundable.
You own your position on The List.
This is a "Closed List" (limited number of members).
Your position on The List can be sold or transferred.
Once The List is full, the same number of new members will be added to The List each year as were helped the previous year.

The List Q & A

[Nighthawk]

It's going to be $50,000 for the new Texas Stadium, granted it lasts forty years but you still have to buy season tickets every year.

You do understand that Jones is ruining sports as we know it...correct?

[gr8slayer]

You do understand that Jones is ruining sports as we know it...correct?
No.... He's just ruining it for cheap ass fans of other teams.

[Nighthawk]

No.... He's just ruining it for cheap ass fans of other teams.

Wrong..you're way out of touch with reality. Charging ridiculous amounts of money for professional sports will eventually kill professional sports.

[gr8slayer]

Wrong..you're way out of touch with reality. Charging ridiculous amounts of money for professional sports will eventually kill professional sports.
Well people here (though not everyone is happy about it) are paying because there are few seats left for the new stadium.

Quit being a cheap ass and pony up if you're serious about keeping the team around.

[Nighthawk]

Well people here (though not everyone is happy about it) are paying because there are few seats left for the new stadium.

Quit being a cheap ass and pony up if you're serious about keeping the team around.

Son, I do very well and have no problem paying up if they indeed build a new stadium. The point you keep overlooking is that guys like Jerry Jones are INDEED ruining profession sports. No matter how you spin it, this is true.

[gr8slayer]

Son, I do very well and have no problem paying up if they indeed build a new stadium. The point you keep overlooking is that guys like Jerry Jones are INDEED ruining profession sports. No matter how you spin it, this is true.
Since you are referring to me as son I'll assume that you are much older than I. Please elaborate and expand upon your claim because from my point of view he's simply making staying ahead of the competition.

[Nighthawk]

Since you are referring to me as son I'll assume that you are much older than I. Please elaborate and expand upon your claim because from my point of view he's simply making staying ahead of the competition.

No, I'm probably not older than you and if I am, not by much, but I had to get your attention. By driving up cost around the league, not just to other owner, but to the fan (the people who drive this sports), he is making it a corporate game and that is not the essence of sports. He's not staying ahead of the game, he's killing it!

[gr8slayer]

No, I'm probably not older than you and if I am, not by much, but I had to get your attention. By driving up cost around the league, not just to other owner, but to the fan (the people who drive this sports), he is making it a corporate game and that is not the essence of sports. He's not staying ahead of the game, he's killing it!
You my friend suffer from the same inferiority complex Thurm does.

[Nighthawk]

You my friend suffer from the same inferiority complex Thurm does.

Nope, I don't...honestly, you just don't get it. I'm all for making money, owners like Jones are not good for the sport.

[gr8slayer]

Nope, I don't...honestly, you just don't get it. I'm all for making money, owners like Jones are not good for the sport.
You're right, I think your opinion is full of ****. But you are entitled to it and I'll respect your opinion.

[Nighthawk]

You're right, I think your opinion is full of ****. But you are entitled to it and I'll respect your opinion.

Funny, and I'm not being a jerk, I was about to write the same thing. I respect your opinion, but I do disagree. Therefore, we agree to disagree. :beers:

[Oldbillsfan]

The "cheap ass" comments are out of line. The ticket prices for the Cowboys new stadium are absurd. I could bring my family to Disney for a week for the price of one game. At some point a line is drawn between "Cheap ass" and "Stupid."

I have a feeling the only true fans attending their games will scalp their tickets. The rest will be people there to socialize and enjoy the "status" of being able to afford their season tickets. When the 'Boys need fan support in the 4th qtr most of their fans in the lower luxury seats will be gone, off to their Polo match or their appoinment with their plastic surgeon.

[Turf]

People in Buffalo are cheap, bottom line. Won't wink at dropping a few hundred at the casino every weekend, but not for football.
Considering the price of hockey tickets, there are only 8 home games. $100 a ticket isn't that bad. Most want to pay $35.
Like anything else, you get what you pay for.
But in all actuality, I think the older generation in Buffalo won't pay for the tickets for two reasons. It's too ****ing cold to sit out there and pay that kind of money, and you that hate roofs should consider Arizona and other warm weather areas.
Secondly, I think they all really hate Ralph Wilson, and don't want to give him a cent.

[gr8slayer]

The "cheap ass" comments are out of line. The ticket prices for the Cowboys new stadium are absurd. I could bring my family to Disney for a week for the price of one game. At some point a line is drawn between "Cheap ass" and "Stupid."

I have a feeling the only true fans attending their games will scalp their tickets. The rest will be people there to socialize and enjoy the "status" of being able to afford their season tickets. When the 'Boys need fan support in the 4th qtr most of their fans in the lower luxury seats will be gone, off to their Polo match or their appoinment with their plastic surgeon.
Until you've been to a game don't talk **** :up:

[tampabay25690]

THERE is nothing to compare!!!!!!!!!

I have season tix here in TAMPA and my wife and myself make a ton of $$ compared to when we lived in BUFFALO...........Its all about CORPORATE!!!!!!! Why do u think the BILLS have to play 1 game in TORONTO....Its no secret

[gr8slayer]

THERE is nothing to compare!!!!!!!!!

I have season tix here in TAMPA and my wife and myself make a ton of $$ compared to when we lived in BUFFALO...........Its all about CORPORATE!!!!!!! Why do u think the BILLS have to play 1 game in TORONTO....Its no secret
Don't disclose things like that, Mikey and Thrum will question your loyalty to the Bills if you root for other teams as well.

[tampabay25690]

I still would rather be in RALPH WILSON STADIUM anyday..........The atmosphere, the fans, the BILLS..........EVERYTHING....It gives me chills thinking about being at every game in BUFFALO........

I still have seasons in BUFF because they are cheap and I NEED to support are CITY!!!!!!!

[tampabay25690]

Don't disclose things like that, Mikey and Thrum will question your loyalty to the Bills if you root for other teams as well.

LET them question all THEY WANT!!!!!!

Its SUCKS that I have season tix in 2 cities HUH?????????

SORRY that I have to take clients to games.....I guess you cant be an NFL FAN here....I FORGOT

[tampabay25690]

Don't disclose things like that, Mikey and Thrum will question your loyalty to the Bills if you root for other teams as well.

HEY when u can fly home anytime u want to watch your team, then they can say something.....BUT I know MIKEY knows that I support the BILLS probably more then half of this site.......I just happened to get a break and live here in TAMPA.......SOme of us just get lucky sometimes...

[Nighthawk]

HEY when u can fly home anytime u want to watch your team, then they can say something.....BUT I know MIKEY knows that I support the BILLS probably more then half of this site.......I just happened to get a break and live here in TAMPA.......SOme of us just get lucky sometimes...

Dude, I think it is awesome that you support both teams and are doing well in Tampa. However, you and few others on this site drive me nuts with your constant negativism towards the WNY area. I'm doing just fine here and would never leave and I love it here. You chose to leave and that's great, but don't come on here like you're better than everybody because you now live in Tampa. Seriously, I'm not trying to be an @$$, but that stuff get's old.

[tampabay25690]

Dude, I think it is awesome that you support both teams and are doing well in Tampa. However, you and few others on this site drive me nuts with your constant negativism towards the WNY area. I'm doing just fine here and would never leave and I love it here. You chose to leave and that's great, but don't come on here like you're better than everybody because you now live in Tampa. Seriously, I'm not trying to be an @$$, but that stuff get's old.
Whats negative about what I SAID??????

I love WNY........VISIT many times during the year and support are TEAMS more then (LIKE I SAID) half the people on this site............

Who cares about $$$ but its a true fact that the population and $$ in jobs in the BUFF area are far and few..........THAT'S just reality, there are some of us that are reaslists and know whats going on........TRUST me things in FLORIDA aren't as strong as they were when I moved here 5 years ago......AND by the way IM NOT A BUCS fan.......IM A BUFFALO FAN and always will be......

[Nighthawk]

Whats negative about what I SAID??????

I love WNY........VISIT many times during the year and support are TEAMS more then (LIKE I SAID) half the people on this site............

Who cares about $$$ but its a true fact that the population and $$ in jobs in the BUFF area are far and few..........THAT'S just reality, there are some of us that are reaslists and know whats going on........TRUST me things in FLORIDA aren't as strong as they were when I moved here 5 years ago......AND by the way IM NOT A BUCS fan.......IM A BUFFALO FAN and always will be......

No, I never questioned that...I know that you're a Bills fan...no doubt. But some people who have left think that this is the only place in the country where things get tough. I'm a Sr. Recruiter who places people for a living, so I have good feeling for the economy in WNY and other places and I can tell you that the economy in Buffalo is a lot better now than it was 5 years ago. I'm just saying, support WNY and don't always harp on the obvious bad points.

[tampabay25690]

No, I never questioned that...I know that you're a Bills fan...no doubt. But some people who have left think that this is the only place in the country where things get tough. I'm a Sr. Recruiter who places people for a living, so I have good feeling for the economy in WNY and other places and I can tell you that the economy in Buffalo is a lot better now than it was 5 years ago. I'm just saying, support WNY and don't always harp on the obvious bad points.

I understand that alot of people that leave BUFF are always negative. Im always in support for the area....Anything I can ever do I would to help the CITY that I was born and gave me an opportunity....

BY the way things are tough everywhere right now and hopefully the ECONOMY will get better soon....

[Nighthawk]

I understand that alot of people that leave BUFF are always negative. Im always in support for the area....Anything I can ever do I would to help the CITY that I was born and gave me an opportunity....

And it seems that you do your part and that is good. However, these other exWNY's aren't helping the situation with the always negative attitudes. I think we need more people like you...the ones that don't forget where they come from!

[Nighthawk]

I understand that alot of people that leave BUFF are always negative. Im always in support for the area....Anything I can ever do I would to help the CITY that I was born and gave me an opportunity....

BY the way things are tough everywhere right now and hopefully the ECONOMY will get better soon....


You got that right, but some think that Buffalo is the only place where the economy is struggling. I'm with you, I hope it changes soon.

[TigerJ]

It clearly is a different market in Dallas than in Buffalo. Jerry Jones can charge $50,000 for a seat license because there are plenty of fans in the Dallas/Fort Worth area that can and will pay for it. Buffalo has a smaller fan base, and that fan base, I would guess, has a much lower average income than the average fan in Dallas/Fort Worth.Even if I could go to enough games to make a season ticket a sensible investment, there's no way I could pony up what would be more than a year's salary for me for a license. I would guess a majority of Bills season ticket holders are in the same boat.

[gr8slayer]

It clearly is a different market in Dallas than in Buffalo. Jerry Jones can charge $50,000 for a seat license because there are plenty of fans in the Dallas/Fort Worth area that can and will pay for it. Buffalo has a smaller fan base, and that fan base, I would guess, has a much lower average income than the average fan in Dallas/Fort Worth.Even if I could go to enough games to make a season ticket a sensible investment, there's no way I could pony up what would be more than a year's salary for me for a license. I would guess a majority of Bills season ticket holders are in the same boat.
So what would you expect to pay for a license? BTW, those are the preliminary numbers, those aren't etched in stone yet, you can give or take a couple of thousand.

[Michael82]

Don't disclose things like that, Mikey and Thrum will question your loyalty to the Bills if you root for other teams as well.
No, only when you bash the city, the fans, the owner and everything about the team, and praise an ******* like Jerry Jones who is ruining the league. :ill:

[Michael82]

It clearly is a different market in Dallas than in Buffalo. Jerry Jones can charge $50,000 for a seat license because there are plenty of fans in the Dallas/Fort Worth area that can and will pay for it. Buffalo has a smaller fan base, and that fan base, I would guess, has a much lower average income than the average fan in Dallas/Fort Worth.Even if I could go to enough games to make a season ticket a sensible investment, there's no way I could pony up what would be more than a year's salary for me for a license. I would guess a majority of Bills season ticket holders are in the same boat.
Exactly. I don't even gross what the Dallas Cowboys want to charge fans for PSLs. So I would definitely be out too and I know a bunch of other people in the same income bracket that I am. :ill:

[gr8slayer]

No, only when you bash the city, the fans, the owner and everything about the team, and praise an ******* like Jerry Jones who is ruining the league. :ill:
You have yet to present a valid reason why Jerry Jones is ruining the league, so far all you've done is bicker and ***** and continue your inferiority complex. So a couple of teams will get moved around, trust me, the NFL will make it with out Buffalo.

[gr8slayer]

It's common sense that people in Buffalo wouldn't be able to put out $50,000 for the rights to the seats, the economy isn't what it is in Dallas.

But make it $10,000 per for the higher priced seats and $5,000 for the other seats. That's more than reasonable.

[Michael82]

It's common sense that people in Buffalo wouldn't be able to put out $50,000 for the rights to the seats, the economy isn't what it is in Dallas.

But make it $10,000 per for the higher priced seats and $5,000 for the other seats. That's more than reasonable.
actually, we do have a bunch of seats in the stadium with a PSL. I just don't know what they charge. Probably the $5,000 that you are talking about.

[gr8slayer]

actually, we do have a bunch of seats in the stadium with a PSL. I just don't know what they charge. Probably the $5,000 that you are talking about.
If they are $5,000 now make them $10,000.

[UltimateBillsFan]

You have yet to present a valid reason why Jerry Jones is ruining the league, so far all you've done is bicker and ***** and continue your inferiority complex. So a couple of teams will get moved around, trust me, the NFL will make it with out Buffalo.

Why are you on this forum if you diss Buffalo so much. You would think that if you were a true Bills fan you would fight for them. And don't tell me that I just am not in touch with reality and don't understand that the Bills can't stay in Buffalo. I do understand that and I hope that we find a way to keep them. You are all about the money just like the NFL. It sounds like the NFL Headquarters are talking to us, not a Bills fan.

[gr8slayer]

Why are you on this forum if you diss Buffalo so much. You would think that if you were a true Bills fan you would fight for them. And don't tell me that I just am not in touch with reality and don't understand that the Bills can't stay in Buffalo. I do understand that and I hope that we find a way to keep them. You are all about the money just like the NFL. It sounds like the NFL Headquarters are talking to us, not a Bills fan.
You don't like it? Put me on ignore. I'm entitled to my opinion.

[Ebenezer]

You don't like it? Put me on ignore, till then shut your mouth. I'm entitled to my opinion.
that will be enough of that. you can tell them to put you on ignore...but not to shut their mouth - they are entitled to their opinion as you are. you have been banging on the Bills and the fans a lot lately. Expect that kind of feedback.

Now as a warning - cool off.

[gr8slayer]

that will be enough of that. you can tell them to put you on ignore...but not to shut their mouth - they are entitled to their opinion as you are. you have been banging on the Bills and the fans a lot lately. Expect that kind of feedback.

Now as a warning - cool off.
I am entitled to my opinion and if my opinion of the fans and organization is not popular I don't give a ****. My life will go on with or without the approval of an internet message board.

You don't like my opinion, you can put me on ignore too. I'm not going to candy coat my opinion just to please the over zealous moderating staff or the people living in Candy Land up there. As of right now the team sucks, the ownership sucks, the prices suck, and now we're losing games to a bunch of hippies north of the border. Add to the fact that the owner of my favorite sports team could die any any without an heir and that makes for an unhappy fan.

Yeah....edited by an overzealous moderator.