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Mitchell55
02-16-2008, 06:33 PM
Release
Hargrove, Web, Jefferson, Royal, Gaines, Stamer


Resign
Whittle- 2 year
Haggan- 3 year
Wallace- 2 year

Trades

JP and A-Train to Carolina for 4th

Larry Triplett and 5th/6th for Jerry Porter ( good size, underappreciated, wants out, not a money hungry player)


FA
Marques Tuiasosopo QB 2 year(Older QB and can add depth)
Jovan Haye DT 4 year ( puts pressure on the QB and wont require much money)


Draft

1. Aqib Talib CB (NE picks up Kieth Rivers and Jets pick up Leodis McKlevin and Jenkins Off field problems) http://video.google.com/url?docid=3541792337255388244&esrc=sr1&ev=v&len=148&q=aqib%2Btalib&srcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DMSb5XZJO1FQ&vidurl=%2Fvideoplay%3Fdocid%3D3541792337255388244%26q%3Daqib%2Btalib%26total%3D15%26start%3D0%26num%3D10%26so%3D0%26type%3Dsearch%26plindex%3D0&usg=AL29H23scRAV5BXW8zOiIC2K0LiIz-Z82Q http://video.google.com/url?docid=-6371751368537040116&esrc=sr7&ev=v&len=19&q=aqib%2Btalib&srcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dp5L946k9mww&vidurl=%2Fvideoplay%3Fdocid%3D-6371751368537040116%26q%3Daqib%2Btalib%26total%3D15%26start%3D0%26num%3D10%26so%3D0%26type%3Dsearch%26plindex%3D6&usg=AL29H23xNvoxrM7f68eoeXSNGDy3dgAfAA http://video.google.com/url?docid=-4128511538409625564&esrc=sr8&ev=v&len=9&q=aqib%2Btalib&srcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DxrSUoS3-KCQ&vidurl=%2Fvideoplay%3Fdocid%3D-4128511538409625564%26q%3Daqib%2Btalib%26total%3D15%26start%3D0%26num%3D10%26so%3D0%26type%3Dsearch%26plindex%3D7&usg=AL29H22uLeZjJP7l2KB_zp8kvkqW_CLMFQ
2. X Adibi http://video.google.com/url?docid=-2112143808670720400&esrc=sr1&ev=v&len=255&q=xavier%2Badibi&srcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D4rAoZYmkHnA&vidurl=%2Fvideoplay%3Fdocid%3D-2112143808670720400%26q%3Dxavier%2Badibi%26total%3D7%26start%3D0%26num%3D10%26so%3D0%26type%3Dsearch%26plindex%3D0&usg=AL29H20QjSKwC-sjqPSFXta93o4fyz1dZg http://video.google.com/url?docid=-4586643792662178418&esrc=sr2&ev=v&len=227&q=xavier%2Badibi&srcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DwFj3xYse1Y4&vidurl=%2Fvideoplay%3Fdocid%3D-4586643792662178418%26q%3Dxavier%2Badibi%26total%3D7%26start%3D0%26num%3D10%26so%3D0%26type%3Dsearch%26plindex%3D1&usg=AL29H21Jz0-2VnF_TWvGE9WkonJT2tK7pA or Ali Highsmith LB http://video.google.com/url?docid=3358297316607887415&esrc=sr1&ev=v&len=70&q=Ali%2BHighsmith&srcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DLpsRnc6PiDc&vidurl=%2Fvideoplay%3Fdocid%3D3358297316607887415%26q%3DAli%2BHighsmith%26total%3D20%26start%3D0%26num%3D10%26so%3D0%26type%3Dsearch%26plindex%3D0&usg=AL29H23rzbsOHAYMmiXgfjllZSxlW6LuTg
3. Mike Pollack C
3. Jermichael Finley http://video.google.com/url?docid=-481594989878760253&esrc=sr1&ev=v&len=242&q=Jermichael%2Bfinley&srcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D-VEH6IarLMM&vidurl=%2Fvideoplay%3Fdocid%3D-481594989878760253%26q%3DJermichael%2Bfinley%26total%3D4%26start%3D0%26num%3D10%26so%3D0%26type%3Dsearch%26plindex%3D0&usg=AL29H21g9wXqmF8b4l8UnHcU1D93_CwRzQ
4. Owen Schmitt or Hillis (which ever is there) FB http://video.google.com/url?docid=5382801915549468729&esrc=sr8&ev=v&len=50&q=Owen%2Bschmitt&srcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DSrON0qieSDk&vidurl=%2Fvideoplay%3Fdocid%3D5382801915549468729%26q%3DOwen%2Bschmitt%26total%3D57%26start%3D0%26num%3D10%26so%3D0%26type%3Dsearch%26plindex%3D7&usg=AL29H23j5oUfIGnyPgEDFNcO-pT4vxutig http://video.google.com/url?docid=-2634550748264762105&esrc=sr12&ev=v&len=40&q=Owen%2Bschmitt&srcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D23AyDYrwdQc&vidurl=%2Fvideoplay%3Fdocid%3D-2634550748264762105%26q%3DOwen%2Bschmitt%26total%3D57%26start%3D10%26num%3D10%26so%3D0%26type%3Dsearch%26plindex%3D1&usg=AL29H2013XDdVX7cAVcwzrIAJkgpsecDcg http://video.google.com/url?docid=616750717859736568&esrc=sr3&ev=v&len=225&q=Peyton%2BHillis&srcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DCI8jgpz_K_g&vidurl=%2Fvideoplay%3Fdocid%3D616750717859736568%26q%3DPeyton%2BHillis%26total%3D5%26start%3D0%26num%3D10%26so%3D0%26type%3Dsearch%26plindex%3D2&usg=AL29H22kwcfRp9ckf4WtGLvjfwsqwj9r9g
4. Cliff Avril DE
5. Lionel Dotson DT
6. Corey Lynch FS http://video.google.com/url?docid=73863618316952116&esrc=sr1&ev=v&len=594&q=corey%2Blynch&srcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DAQZqkcubYjQ&vidurl=%2Fvideoplay%3Fdocid%3D73863618316952116%26q%3Dcorey%2Blynch%26total%3D25%26start%3D0%26num%3D10%26so%3D0%26type%3Dsearch%26plindex%3D0&usg=AL29H21yOizv3PDkplvZYkkhc1s-jlUamA http://video.google.com/url?docid=9150779745580308235&esrc=sr2&ev=v&len=93&q=corey%2Blynch&srcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dfv4ZshknVws&vidurl=%2Fvideoplay%3Fdocid%3D9150779745580308235%26q%3Dcorey%2Blynch%26total%3D25%26start%3D0%26num%3D10%26so%3D0%26type%3Dsearch%26plindex%3D1&usg=AL29H20h92KR1AtaPpC9CtMAR0fVUrvGOA
7. Todd Blythe WR 6'5
7. Mike Gibson T



If no WR in offseason we will trade up and get Sweed/Kelly and rest of draft is same except a CB in round 3-5.

Stats for each player

Talib- 2007- Games- 13, Tackles- 66, pass break ups- 13, INTs- 5

Career- Games- 34, Tackles- 162, Pass Break ups- 43, INTs 13


X- Adibi- 2007- Games- 14, Tackles- 115, Tackles for loss- 12, Sacks- 3, Pass break ups- 5, INTs- 2

Career- Games- 47, Tackles- 291, Tackles for loss- 30, sacks- 11, Pass break ups 23, INTs- 8


Ali Highsmith- 2007- Games 14, Tackles- 101, Tackles for Loss- 9, Sack- 3, Pass Break ups- 8, INT-0

Career- Games 52, Tackles- 260, Tackles for loss- 26, Sack- 11, Pass Break Ups- 13, INT- 1


Finley- 2007- Games 13, Receptions- 45, YDS- 575, YPC- 12.8, TDs- 2

Career- Games 26, Receptions- 76, YDS- 947, YPC- 12.5, TD- 5


Schmitt-

<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3><TBODY><TR class=stathead bgColor=#395ab5><TD colSpan=20>Rushing Stats</TD></TR><TR class=colhead align=right><TD align=left width="8%">YEAR</TD><TD align=left width="8%">TEAM</TD><TD>ATT</TD><TD>YDS</TD><TD>AVG</TD><TD>LNG</TD><TD>TD</TD><TD>FD</TD><TD>FUM</TD><TD>LOST</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=right><TD align=left>2005</TD><TD align=left>WVU</TD><TD>48</TD><TD>380</TD><TD>7.9</TD><TD>54</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=right><TD align=left>2006</TD><TD align=left>WVU</TD><TD>65</TD><TD>351</TD><TD>5.4</TD><TD>52</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=right><TD align=left>2007</TD><TD align=left>WVU</TD><TD>47</TD><TD>272</TD><TD>5.8</TD><TD>57</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3><TBODY><TR class=stathead bgColor=#395ab5><TD colSpan=20>Receiving Stats</TD></TR><TR class=colhead align=right><TD align=left width="8%">YEAR</TD><TD align=left width="8%">TEAM</TD><TD>REC</TD><TD>YDS</TD><TD>AVG</TD><TD>LNG</TD><TD>TD</TD><TD>FD</TD><TD>FUM</TD><TD>LOST</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=right><TD align=left>2005</TD><TD align=left>WVU</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>76</TD><TD>9.5</TD><TD>20</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=right><TD align=left>2006</TD><TD align=left>WVU</TD><TD>12</TD><TD>91</TD><TD>7.6</TD><TD>19</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=right><TD align=left>2007</TD><TD align=left>WVU</TD><TD>12</TD><TD>121</TD><TD>10.1</TD><TD>31</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>



Hillis- <TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3><TBODY><TR class=stathead bgColor=#9c1831><TD colSpan=20>Rushing Stats</TD></TR><TR class=colhead align=right><TD align=left width="8%">YEAR</TD><TD align=left width="8%">TEAM</TD><TD>ATT</TD><TD>YDS</TD><TD>AVG</TD><TD>LNG</TD><TD>TD</TD><TD>FD</TD><TD>FUM</TD><TD>LOST</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=right><TD align=left>2004</TD><TD align=left>ARK</TD><TD>63</TD><TD>240</TD><TD>3.8</TD><TD>42</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=right><TD align=left>2005</TD><TD align=left>ARK</TD><TD>65</TD><TD>315</TD><TD>4.8</TD><TD>32</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=right><TD align=left>2006</TD><TD align=left>ARK</TD><TD>13</TD><TD>57</TD><TD>4.4</TD><TD>12</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=right><TD align=left>2007</TD><TD align=left>ARK</TD><TD>62</TD><TD>347</TD><TD>5.6</TD><TD>65</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3><TBODY><TR class=stathead bgColor=#9c1831><TD colSpan=20>Receiving Stats</TD></TR><TR class=colhead align=right><TD align=left width="8%">YEAR</TD><TD align=left width="8%">TEAM</TD><TD>REC</TD><TD>YDS</TD><TD>AVG</TD><TD>LNG</TD><TD>TD</TD><TD>FD</TD><TD>FUM</TD><TD>LOST</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=right><TD align=left>2004</TD><TD align=left>ARK</TD><TD>12</TD><TD>97</TD><TD>8.1</TD><TD>18</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=right><TD align=left>2005</TD><TD align=left>ARK</TD><TD>38</TD><TD>402</TD><TD>10.6</TD><TD>45</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=right><TD align=left>2006</TD><TD align=left>ARK</TD><TD>19</TD><TD>159</TD><TD>8.4</TD><TD>21</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=right><TD align=left>2007</TD><TD align=left>ARK</TD><TD>49</TD><TD>537</TD><TD>11.0</TD><TD>34</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


Avril- <TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width="75%" align=center><TBODY><TR><TD style="BACKGROUND: none transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%" target="_blank" bluegradient.gif? images www.nfldraftcountdown.com http:>http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/images/bluegradient.gif) repeat-y" colSpan=13><CENTER>Career Statistics</CENTER></TD></TR><TR style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold" align=right><TD align=left>Year</TD><TD align=middle>GP</TD><TD align=middle>TKL</TD><TD align=middle>TFL</TD><TD align=middle>SACK</TD></TR><TR align=right><TD align=left>2004</TD><TD align=middle>12</TD><TD align=middle>36</TD><TD align=middle>3.0</TD><TD align=middle>0.5</TD></TR><TR align=right><TD align=left>2005</TD><TD align=middle>10</TD><TD align=middle>33</TD><TD align=middle>2.5</TD><TD align=middle>0.0</TD></TR><TR align=right><TD align=left>2006</TD><TD align=middle>14</TD><TD align=middle>84</TD><TD align=middle>15.0</TD><TD align=middle>6.0</TD></TR><TR align=right><TD align=left>2007</TD><TD align=middle>13</TD><TD align=middle>41</TD><TD align=middle>15.0</TD><TD align=middle>6.5</TD></TR><TR style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold" align=right><TD align=left>Totals</TD><TD align=middle>49</TD><TD align=middle>194</TD><TD align=middle>35.5</TD><TD align=middle>13.0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Lionel Dotson- <TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width="75%" align=center><TBODY><TR><TD style="BACKGROUND: none transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%" target="_blank" bluegradient.gif? images www.nfldraftcountdown.com http:>http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/images/bluegradient.gif) repeat-y" colSpan=13><CENTER>Career Statistics</CENTER></TD></TR><TR style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold" align=right><TD align=left>Year</TD><TD align=middle>GP</TD><TD align=middle>TKL</TD><TD align=middle>TFL</TD><TD align=middle>SACK</TD></TR><TR align=right><TD align=left>2003</TD><TD align=middle>DNP</TD><TD align=middle>- </TD><TD align=middle>- </TD><TD align=middle>- </TD></TR><TR align=right><TD align=left>2004</TD><TD align=middle>7</TD><TD align=middle>19</TD><TD align=middle>3.5</TD><TD align=middle>3.0</TD></TR><TR align=right><TD align=left>2005</TD><TD align=middle>10</TD><TD align=middle>21</TD><TD align=middle>0.0</TD><TD align=middle>0.0</TD></TR><TR align=right><TD align=left>2006</TD><TD align=middle>11</TD><TD align=middle>31</TD><TD align=middle>2.0</TD><TD align=middle>1.0</TD></TR><TR align=right><TD align=left>2007</TD><TD align=middle>12</TD><TD align=middle>50</TD><TD align=middle>9.0</TD><TD align=middle>6.5</TD></TR><TR style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold" align=right><TD align=left>Totals</TD><TD align=middle>40</TD><TD align=middle>121</TD><TD align=middle>14.5</TD><TD align=middle>10.5</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


Corey Lynch- Career- 18 Interceptions, 243 Tackles 7 Fumble Rec


<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 border=0><TBODY><TR class=stathead align=middle bgColor=#d62949><TD colSpan=5>Receiving</TD><TD colSpan=5>Rushing</TD><TD colSpan=2>Fumbles</TD></TR><TR class=colhead align=right ?><TD align=left>YEAR</TD><TD>REC</TD><TD>YDS</TD><TD>AVG</TD><TD>LNG</TD><TD>TD</TD><TD>ATT</TD><TD>YDS</TD><TD>AVG</TD><TD>LNG</TD><TD>TD</TD><TD>FUM</TD><TD>LST</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=right><TD align=left>2004</TD><TD>39</TD><TD>833</TD><TD>21.4</TD><TD>51</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>6.0</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=right><TD align=left>2005</TD><TD>51</TD><TD>1000</TD><TD>19.6</TD><TD>63</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0.0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=right><TD align=left>2006</TD><TD>34</TD><TD>484</TD><TD>14.2</TD><TD>31</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0.0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=right><TD align=left>2007</TD><TD>52</TD><TD>779</TD><TD>15.0</TD><TD>55</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0.0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>




Depth Chart


QB- Trent Edwards, Tuiasosopo
RB- Lynch, Jackson, Wright
FB- Schmitt/ Hillis, Barnes
WR- Porter, Parrish
WR- Evans, Blythe/ Reed
TE- Finley, Johnson
LT- Peters, Chambers
LG- Dockery, Whittle
C- Pollack, Whittle/ Merz
RG- Butler, Preston
RT- Walker, Gibson
LE- Kelsay, Cliff Avril
RE- Schoebel, Wallace
DT- Haye, Dotson
DT- McCargo, Williams
LB- Crowell, Wire
MLB- Poz, Digi
LB- Adibi/ Highsmith, Haggan
CB- Aqib, Greer, Youboty
CB- McGee, Thomas
FS- Ko, Leonard, Lynch
SS- Whitner, Wendling, Scott
K- Lindell,
P- Moorman
KR- McGee/Parrish/Talib
PR- Parrish, Talib
LS- who cares?????????

VeggieMan14
02-16-2008, 08:38 PM
Where did Jerry Porter come from is he on the trading block? if he is definately do that. Didnt have enough patience to read the rest but im sure its good

gr8slayer
02-16-2008, 09:08 PM
Porter isn't "Bills material."

Mitchell55
02-16-2008, 10:11 PM
Where did Jerry Porter come from is he on the trading block? if he is definately do that. Didnt have enough patience to read the rest but im sure its good


I dont know, but I remember reading somewhere that he wants out. Also Gr8slayer. Why do you disagree with every trade/FA pick up someone comes up with.

The Jokeman
02-16-2008, 10:20 PM
Outside of Randy Moss and arguably Bernard Berrian, Porter is the best WR out the4re. Why isn't he Bills material? James Lofton was hardly a saint before coming here.

gr8slayer
02-16-2008, 10:21 PM
Outside of Randy Moss and arguably Bernard Berrian, Porter is the best WR out the4re. Why isn't he Bills material? James Lofton was hardly a saint before coming here.
I'm being sarcastic. Some of our fellow fans feel that we're above having people of low character on our team, we're "classy."

And he'll probably be too expensive for us anyway :ill:

The Jokeman
02-16-2008, 10:29 PM
I'm being sarcastic. Some of our fellow fans feel that we're above having people of low character on our team, we're "classy."

And he'll probably be too expensive for us anyway :ill:
Clumpy just posts we're about $25 million under the cap. I doubt it's going to take that much to get Porter here. Granted if continue with the self imposed cap ie cash against cap philosophy we've used in the past you're probably right. Sad really but doesn't mean can't Billieve things will be different this offseason.

gr8slayer
02-16-2008, 10:31 PM
Clumpy just posts we're about $25 million under the cap. I doubt it's going to take that much to get Porter here. Granted if continue with the self imposed cap ie cash against cap philosophy we've used in the past you're probably right. Sad really but doesn't mean can't Billieve things will be different this offseason.
We spent with the best of them last off-season and we have to give Ralph credit for that. But Ralph has somewhat of a pattern as of late; we spend one year, then we don't spend crap for two years. Or so it seems.