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  • Midwesternbillsfan
    Registered User
    • Apr 2007
    • 207

    Rampant use of the Franchise Tag- Evans' Prime Candidate...

    ... in 2009. If you haven't noticed, much of the would-be talent on the free agent was once again removed from it by the widespread use of the franchise tag. By my count, it's a new record of 11 players that have been tagged (Jared Allen, Nnamdi Asomugha, Dallas Clark, Albert Haynesworth, Stacy Andrews, Terrell Suggs, Marcus Trufant, Karlos Dansby, Jordan Gross, Corey Williams, and L.J. Smith) with Randy Moss probably to be tagged today. That's the way the "franchise" tag works these days; the tag is applied to players who clearly aren't singularly representative of the "franchise" or are that franchises' best player but who still are very valuable and whose teams don't want to see hit the open market with 80% of other teams in excellent cap shape.

    Anyway, one bright spot from this frequent application is that it demonstrates the high probability of the Bills at least tagging Lee Evans next offseason if A) no contract extension can be reached this summer with him and B) that Evans at least mildly improves upon an unmitigated disaster of an '07. There are plenty of Bills' fans who cynically believe that this will be Evans' last season (this upcoming season). I say... no, no way... unless he shows no improvement, which is unlikely. The truth is, the franchise tag works very compatibly with 'cash to the cap' because it doesn't involve adding the total guaranteed money of a lengthy contract against the cap; it only involves counting against the cap the guaranteed money of that next season's salary (all the tag guarantees is the upcoming season's salary). The Bills have used the tag before, even under Jauron; Buffalo tagged Nate Clements two offseasons ago in '06. And with good but certainly not elite players like L.J. Smith and Stacy Andrews being tagged nowadays, do not expect Evans to go anywhere- contract extension or no contract extension- if he has a good 2008. I would stake whatever board credibility (or anonymity, LOL) I may have on it, in fact...
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    honey pie
    • Jul 2002
    • 32592

    #2
    Re: Rampant use of the Franchise Tag- Evans' Prime Candidate...

    the franchise tag should only be used on a player who is in the top five at their position and Evans isn't that. Tagging him and paying the same amount Moss is getting paid would be kind of rediculous.

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    • raphael120
      Jason Peters rigorous at home training regiment
      • Oct 2005
      • 5152

      #3
      Re: Rampant use of the Franchise Tag- Evans' Prime Candidate...

      Yeah Im sorry but Evans is good but he's not franchise tag good.

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      • DraftBoy
        Administrator
        • Jul 2002
        • 107452

        #4
        Re: Rampant use of the Franchise Tag- Evans' Prime Candidate...

        Transition Tag maybe but not Franchise
        COMING SOON...
        Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
        We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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        • #5
          Re: Rampant use of the Franchise Tag- Evans' Prime Candidate...

          I wouldn't Transition Tag him, as a team can do a Hutchinson, putting ridiculous clauses into a contract making it ridiculous to match and resulting in us getting no compensation.

          If Evans won't sign a long term deal, I would franchise him, but unlike Clements would immediately look to trade him and would accept a R1 & R3 for him rather than the current two R1 picks a team has to give up, just to move him on.

          This is because if he doesn't want to resign or demands too much, he may become a distraction during an important year and we can trade him for a pick which might become

          Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech (6ft3, 222lbs, 4.49 dash)
          Darrius Heyward-Bey, Maryland (6ft3, 195lbs, 4.37 dash)
          Brandon LaFell, LSU (6ft3, 205lbs, 4.46 dash)
          Oderick Turner, Pittsburgh (6ft3, 200lbs, 4.48 dash)
          Brian Robiskie, Ohio St (6ft3, 195lbs, 4.50 dash)

          and also provide us with a R3 player, who could turn into someone extremely useful like a DE or a CB

          There are always a selection of WR in most drafts.

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          • DraftBoy
            Administrator
            • Jul 2002
            • 107452

            #6
            Re: Rampant use of the Franchise Tag- Evans' Prime Candidate...

            Originally posted by kernowboy
            I wouldn't Transition Tag him, as a team can do a Hutchinson, putting ridiculous clauses into a contract making it ridiculous to match and resulting in us getting no compensation.

            If Evans won't sign a long term deal, I would franchise him, but unlike Clements would immediately look to trade him and would accept a R1 & R3 for him rather than the current two R1 picks a team has to give up, just to move him on.

            This is because if he doesn't want to resign or demands too much, he may become a distraction during an important year and we can trade him for a pick which might become

            Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech (6ft3, 222lbs, 4.49 dash)
            Darrius Heyward-Bey, Maryland (6ft3, 195lbs, 4.37 dash)
            Brandon LaFell, LSU (6ft3, 205lbs, 4.46 dash)
            Oderick Turner, Pittsburgh (6ft3, 200lbs, 4.48 dash)
            Brian Robiskie, Ohio St (6ft3, 195lbs, 4.50 dash)

            and also provide us with a R3 player, who could turn into someone extremely useful like a DE or a CB

            There are always a selection of WR in most drafts.
            I think they have since corrected that problem, but Im not sure
            COMING SOON...
            Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
            We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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            • Night Train
              Retired - On Several Levels
              • Jul 2005
              • 33117

              #7
              Re: Rampant use of the Franchise Tag- Evans' Prime Candidate...

              If they can pay Kelsay, they can pay Evans. Sign him already.
              Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

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              • #8
                Re: Rampant use of the Franchise Tag- Evans' Prime Candidate...

                If he refuses to sign or discuss, we need to investigate a trade that will gain max value.

                If we are out of the Playoff race, and a team offers a R1 and a R3, I will take it straightaway even before the end of the season.

                We can get similar speed and much more size.

                We will be picking high enough to grab a top WR and will still have a second R1 pick to manoever to wherever we want.

                I see little point in retaining players who don't want to be in Buffalo

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                • mchurchfie
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 13418

                  #9
                  Re: Rampant use of the Franchise Tag- Evans' Prime Candidate...

                  I disagree about Evans. If we get a stable offensive system in place with the same QB he is All-Pro caliber. He can run like the wind and catch, he just needs to get his head screwed back on right.
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                  • Michael82
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 82330

                    #10
                    Re: Rampant use of the Franchise Tag- Evans' Prime Candidate...

                    If you can't get Lee Evans signed long term, I don't give a **** what any of you say. He is definitely one of the top WRs in the league and should be slapped with the franchise tag so we don't lose him for nothing.

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                    • DraftBoy
                      Administrator
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 107452

                      #11
                      Re: Rampant use of the Franchise Tag- Evans' Prime Candidate...

                      Originally posted by Mikey82
                      If you can't get Lee Evans signed long term, I don't give a **** what any of you say. He is definitely one of the top WRs in the league and should be slapped with the franchise tag so we don't lose him for nothing.
                      He is not worth top 5 money, not even close, top 15-20 yes
                      COMING SOON...
                      Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                      We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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                      • Mitchy moo
                        Roways rooking ahread!
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 18380

                        #12
                        Re: Rampant use of the Franchise Tag- Evans' Prime Candidate...

                        Evans value cannot be based on the past 2 seasons. I mean christ we didn't even have a guy that was calling offense plays, he just called simpleton plays that any D-tard could counter. If we get at least one great WR / A great TE and the line continues to grow together with Trent / ML, then I expect Lee to be in the top 10 of all WR, at least. I really expect all of this to happen and with $40M to spend this season, I think it will come about. The line is nearly set, the QB is set and the RB is set, now we just need some extra firepower to force opponents to single cover him.

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                        • m1orenz
                          Registered User
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 93

                          #13
                          Re: Rampant use of the Franchise Tag- Evans' Prime Candidate...

                          Originally posted by DraftBoy
                          I think they have since corrected that problem, but Im not sure
                          poisen pills are still legal to use

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                          • Midwesternbillsfan
                            Registered User
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 207

                            #14
                            Re: Rampant use of the Franchise Tag- Evans' Prime Candidate...

                            Granted, none of the players slapped with the tag have been WR's and the average number of the top-five highest paid WR's is somewhat steep. That said, it's becoming endemic to the NFL that who don't allow value to hit the market, as long as there isn't either an explicit stipulation that an organization will not tag a second time (Bills' Clements, Bears' Briggs, Patriots' Samuels) or if it's an organization that typically does not apply the tag (like the Bears; they've only used the tag once in their history- that was for Briggs and they don't look to be tagging Bernard Berrian).

                            Anyway, I appreciate the feedback, but what some of you might be overlooking is that I said that this must involve Lee Evans having a bounceback season; obviously anything resembling 2007 means that he will not be tagged and effectively will be playing elsewhere in 2009. But I am of the belief that he will have a much better season and that the Bills will find a way to keep (even up to 'franchising' him and paying him a high salary but one whose rules are very compatible with 'cash to the cap').

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                            • #15
                              Re: Rampant use of the Franchise Tag- Evans' Prime Candidate...

                              I actually think he becomes a free agent in 2010, not 2009 according to the KFFL site

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