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Confused
02-24-2008, 11:53 AM
4.46 i think. so much for being slow. Manningham cant break 4.55. who'd a thunk?

Mitchell55
02-24-2008, 12:11 PM
4.46 i think. so much for being slow. Manningham cant break 4.55. who'd a thunk?





True. Also I hate your sig. Hillary for president.

VeggieMan14
02-24-2008, 12:21 PM
True. Also I hate your sig. Hillary for president. Nope hillary is definately not the right pick for president. I actually don't know who is in the election but it is most definately not her

jpdex12
02-24-2008, 12:31 PM
4.46 i think. so much for being slow. Manningham cant break 4.55. who'd a thunk?

You see this on NFL Network?

Yasgur's Farm
02-24-2008, 12:31 PM
I'll go with James Hardy's 4.47 before Limas Sweed's 4.46.


And I can't stand Hillary either.

Yasgur's Farm
02-24-2008, 12:32 PM
You see this on NFL Network?http://www.buffalobills.com/blog/index.jsp?post_id=3010

TigerJ
02-24-2008, 12:39 PM
Good deal! Some reason that with so much depth at WR, Buffalo should look elsewhere in round one. I don't necessarily agree. I think there is a lot of depth at OLB too, especially smaller quicker ones who seem to be a fit in the Tampa 2, and cover 2 type CBs. I don't think there is going to be any value at #11 overall at DT or TE. The Bills could surprise, but I think the odds are strong that their first pick will be a WR, OLB, or CB, and I'd rather it be one of the first two.

Yasgur's Farm
02-24-2008, 12:42 PM
I'm starting to lean toward WR in round 2... James Hardy's looking good there.
I'm liking DE's Merling or Harvey at #11... I'd welcome Ellis or Dorsey here but it ain't gonna happen.

Mike13
02-24-2008, 12:45 PM
If you guys want a speedy WR then I'd take a look at Andre Caldwell, he ran a 4.31


I'm starting to lean toward WR in round 2... James Hardy's looking good there

IMO Hardy will be picked at either the end of round 1 or begining of round 2, a few mocks I've seen have the fins pick him at 32.

Yasgur's Farm
02-24-2008, 12:50 PM
Not looking for a speedy WR... Looking for a big and speedy WR.

The Jokeman
02-24-2008, 12:56 PM
http://www.buffalobills.com/blog/index.jsp?post_id=3010
That must be an unofficial time as can't find it among NFL.com's top perfomers (http://www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers?tabIndex=0) that
lists the WRs as:


Name Time
Jackson, DeSean 4.35
Caldwell, Andre 4.37
Franklin, Will 4.37
Jackson, Dexter 4.37
Royal, Eddie 4.39
Thomas, Devin 4.40
Shields, Arman 4.44
Breazell, Brandon 4.47
Simpson, Jerome 4.47
Bennett, Earl 4.48
Garcon, Pierre 4.48

I was shocked to see Earl Bennett that high as the knock on him has been a lack of speed yet with a forty like that and his catching totals at Vandy he might have moved into the top 2 Rounds of the draft. Yet as said a few weeks ago Devin Thomas is moving higher on my radar as a guy might take too.

VeggieMan14
02-24-2008, 01:00 PM
That must be an unofficial time as can't find it among NFL.com's top perfomers (http://www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers?tabIndex=0):
Which lists the WRs as: What is the difference between unoficial and official cuz i saw they sed dexter jacksons 4.27 was unnofficial but he ran it at the combine i dont get it

The Jokeman
02-24-2008, 01:07 PM
What is the difference between unoficial and official cuz i saw they sed dexter jacksons 4.27 was unnofficial but he ran it at the combine i dont get it
Read this article for more information http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40_yard_dash

VeggieMan14
02-24-2008, 01:09 PM
Read this article for more information http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40_yard_dash o ok

gr8slayer
02-24-2008, 01:57 PM
Sweed has been my #1 WR since day one. He's going to make some team very happy they took him.

VeggieMan14
02-24-2008, 02:05 PM
Sweed has been my #1 WR since day one. He's going to make some team very happy they took him. maybe that team will be us

gr8slayer
02-24-2008, 02:08 PM
maybe that team will be us
One can only hope.....

VeggieMan14
02-24-2008, 02:09 PM
One can only hope..... Im starting to like him more and more as the day goes on

DraftBoy
02-24-2008, 02:16 PM
Thomas, Hardy, and Caldwell all moving up. Sweed's time was about on par with what was expected.

Confused
02-24-2008, 03:05 PM
Thomas, Hardy, and Caldwell all moving up. Sweed's time was about on par with what was expected.

i saw sweed as high as 4.65 -4.7 on some sites. coughherecough

Confused
02-24-2008, 03:06 PM
True. Also I hate your sig. Hillary for president.

who the the hell asked you?!

tampabay25690
02-24-2008, 03:10 PM
If you guys want a speedy WR then I'd take a look at Andre Caldwell, he ran a 4.31



IMO Hardy will be picked at either the end of round 1 or begining of round 2, a few mocks I've seen have the fins pick him at 32.

HE gets hurt way to much but a very good WR ...Great speed and hands.......

X-Era
02-24-2008, 04:17 PM
4.46 i think. so much for being slow. Manningham cant break 4.55. who'd a thunk?

Im suprised with Sweed, very good, very exciting. His issue still stands though which is durability, he seems to get injured a bit. Id like to see him be a bit bigger in build as well.

I still think Kelly is #1 due to having and showing a bit more, but Sweed is #2 and is rising after a 40 like that.

DraftBoy
02-24-2008, 04:19 PM
Sweed was expected to run in the 4.4-4.5 range why are people getting excited about this?

Night Train
02-24-2008, 04:34 PM
Thomas, Hardy, and Caldwell all moving up. Sweed's time was about on par with what was expected.

It's a good group of WR's without any Calvin Johnson type standout. Therefore, I cannot see the Bills picking a WR at #11 overall.

They will still see lots of these guys on the board in Rounds 2-4.

DraftBoy
02-24-2008, 04:44 PM
It's a good group of WR's without any Calvin Johnson type standout. Therefore, I cannot see the Bills picking a WR at #11 overall.

They will still see lots of these guys on the board in Rounds 2-4.
Devin Thomas is a guy that was really growing on me. 6'1 7/8 runs a 4.4 but only a 28 inch vertical which is a huge disappointment. A guy you're not hearing a lot about is WR Jerome Simpson from Coastal Carolina he comes in a 6'1 3/4 runs a 4.43 40, has the 2nd best vertical at 37.5, and the longest broad jump at 11'4". Guy is an athletic freak but is getting no love. Im going to write a FP article after the combine concludes talking about the winners and losers, at least in my opinion. Should include some names you wont see the main stream sites talking about.

X-Era
02-24-2008, 04:46 PM
Devin Thomas is a guy that was really growing on me. 6'1 7/8 runs a 4.4 but only a 28 inch vertical which is a huge disappointment. A guy you're not hearing a lot about is WR Jerome Simpson from Coastal Carolina he comes in a 6'1 3/4 runs a 4.43 40, has the 2nd best vertical at 37.5, and the longest broad jump at 11'4". Guy is an athletic freak but is getting no love. Im going to write a FP article after the combine concludes talking about the winners and losers, at least in my opinion. Should include some names you wont see the main stream sites talking about.

It may be a case where a great athlete is not necessarily a great football player.

DraftBoy
02-24-2008, 04:51 PM
It may be a case where a great athlete is not necessarily a great football player.

Jerome Simpson is considered the top DI-AA WR in this class ranked #1 DI-AA WR in my rankings and also in NFL Draft Scout's rankings. NFL Draft Scout's #18 overall WR prospect. He has caught 44 total TD's (in his career) playing for Coastal Carolina which just started its football program 5 or so years ago, and is a predominant running offense. This kid can play football.

TigerJ
02-24-2008, 05:18 PM
It's the "lower level of competition knock." Sometimes it means something. Sometimes not. Jerry Rice played a lower level of competition. It is a risk factor that pro evaluators take into account.

gr8slayer
02-24-2008, 05:29 PM
It's the "lower level of competition knock." Sometimes it means something. Sometimes not. Jerry Rice played a lower level of competition. It is a risk factor that pro evaluators take into account.
Jerry Rice also played in the perfect system for years before anyone figured it out.

The Jokeman
02-24-2008, 06:48 PM
It's the "lower level of competition knock." Sometimes it means something. Sometimes not. Jerry Rice played a lower level of competition. It is a risk factor that pro evaluators take into account.
The fact is Jerry Rice dominated at his lower level which is why he got drafted so high. The same can be said about Walter Peyton. While I like Jerome Simpson I'm a little concerned with his lack of size. I'm measuring size in terms of weight as he played around 185 from all the profiles have read. He did some great things in college but wasn't elite ala Rice or Peyton but did show good things in averaging over 17 yards a catch and averaging nearly a TD a game in his junior/senior years. I think he'd warrant a 3rd Round pick but as stated earlier like draftboy am really intrigued with Devin Thomas, as he has some excellent size and shown to have above average speed and coming off a great junior year.

DraftBoy
02-24-2008, 08:27 PM
The fact is Jerry Rice dominated at his lower level which is why he got drafted so high. The same can be said about Walter Peyton. While I like Jerome Simpson I'm a little concerned with his lack of size. I'm measuring size in terms of weight as he played around 185 from all the profiles have read. He did some great things in college but wasn't elite ala Rice or Peyton but did show good things in averaging over 17 yards a catch and averaging nearly a TD a game in his junior/senior years. I think he'd warrant a 3rd Round pick but as stated earlier like draftboy am really intrigued with Devin Thomas, as he has some excellent size and shown to have above average speed and coming off a great junior year.

Thomas scares me with only a 28" vertical though. I like Simpson a lot and he's not small being a 1/4 inch shy of 6'2. You are completely right about him being a good 3rd Rounder.

mysticsoto
02-24-2008, 09:31 PM
Sweed was expected to run in the 4.4-4.5 range why are people getting excited about this?

Really? I was expecting him to run close to 4.6 and I think most people were too. At 6'5", hovering around 4.5 is FANTASTIC!

VeggieMan14
02-24-2008, 09:32 PM
Really? I was expecting him to run close to 4.6 and I think most people were too. At 6'5", hovering around 4.5 is FANTASTIC! Thats exactly what I was thinking he would be around

The Jokeman
02-24-2008, 11:05 PM
Thomas scares me with only a 28" vertical though. I like Simpson a lot and he's not small being a 1/4 inch shy of 6'2. You are completely right about him being a good 3rd Rounder.
28" is indeed a horrible vertical, you'd think he could get at least 32". I"m sure he'll work on his hops and if it improves on his pro day then think he'd be worth looking at in Round 2.

X-Era
02-25-2008, 06:34 AM
It's the "lower level of competition knock." Sometimes it means something. Sometimes not. Jerry Rice played a lower level of competition. It is a risk factor that pro evaluators take into account.

Yeah, Andre Reed played at Kutztown State

X-Era
02-25-2008, 06:35 AM
28" is indeed a horrible vertical, you'd think he could get at least 32". I"m sure he'll work on his hops and if it improves on his pro day then think he'd be worth looking at in Round 2.

Its beats my 2-1/2" vertical!

TigerJ
02-25-2008, 07:20 AM
Yeah, Andre Reed played at Kutztown StateHey, I didn't say it was valid. It's just that's the reason guys sometimes drop. Andre Reed was drafted in the fourth round. Sometimes the experts are wrong. Marques Colston?