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  • Mitchell55
    only another 1000 mocks due by tomorrow!
    • Feb 2008
    • 5214

    I have a feeling after today, we will only have 2 needs.

    We got Stroud and Johnson and Mitchell. In my opinion theres a good chance we will be able to get Johnson and Troupe. So we should only have 2 needs after today. CB, and C. This will mean we could take big gambles in the draft. Like trade up from 11 and see if we could get Gholston. I like the way this offseason looks.
  • Mitchy moo
    Roways rooking ahread!
    • Sep 2005
    • 18380

    #2
    Re: I have a feeling after today, we will only have 2 needs.

    A Plan.

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    • Mr. Miyagi
      Lecter's Little Bitch

      • Sep 2002
      • 53616

      #3
      Re: I have a feeling after today, we will only have 2 needs.

      Our depth is still pretty good, with all these players coming back from injury. If we trade JP we'll still need a backup QB too. Maybe pick up someone from FA.

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      • Night Train
        Retired - On Several Levels
        • Jul 2005
        • 33117

        #4
        Re: I have a feeling after today, we will only have 2 needs.

        CB
        C
        #2 WR
        #2 QB
        TE
        FB


        Hmm. I'm counting more than 2.
        Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

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        • camelcowboy
          Registered User
          • Mar 2005
          • 7449

          #5
          Re: I have a feeling after today, we will only have 2 needs.

          Originally posted by Night Train
          CB
          C
          #2 WR
          #2 QB
          TE
          FB


          Hmm. I'm counting more than 2.
          I think he was trying to say that if we sign Troupe and Johnson today we'll only have two needs.


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          • Mitchell55
            only another 1000 mocks due by tomorrow!
            • Feb 2008
            • 5214

            #6
            Re: I have a feeling after today, we will only have 2 needs.

            Originally posted by Night Train
            CB
            C
            #2 WR
            #2 QB
            TE
            FB


            Hmm. I'm counting more than 2.


            Did you even read what I wrote?? Also a #2 QB isnt a NEED. Its not a position that we will go out and pay big money to get, same with FB.

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            • Mr. Miyagi
              Lecter's Little Bitch

              • Sep 2002
              • 53616

              #7
              Re: I have a feeling after today, we will only have 2 needs.

              FB is hardly a need. Plus Lorenzo Neal is still available for next to nothing.

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              • jimbohastle51
                All-Pro Zoner
                • Feb 2005
                • 1823

                #8
                Re: I have a feeling after today, we will only have 2 needs.

                i dont know about trading up, but you can deffinatly tell that russ brandon is a young guy and is going to be VERY active in bringing in players and helping our team. i mean wow his first year in charge and he's trading for franchise players like stroud, taking a gamble on a very good young up and coming player in spencer johnson, and signing away the best OLB (besides briggs) in free agency in mitchell. i have to hand it too him, this guy really wants to win here! i deffinatly dont think we are done in free agency yet. your right about the need for a CB and C i wouldnt be surprised over the next day or 2 if we lock up a WR And a TE through free agency, you can get a good cover 2 CB in the 2nd and 3rd round in this draft, and there are only 2 real good centers in the draft this year, steve justice, and that pollack kid from arizona state.

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                • Night Train
                  Retired - On Several Levels
                  • Jul 2005
                  • 33117

                  #9
                  Re: I have a feeling after today, we will only have 2 needs.

                  Originally posted by MLynch23
                  Did you even read what I wrote??
                  NOPE !
                  Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

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                  • clumping platelets

                    #10
                    Re: I have a feeling after today, we will only have 2 needs.

                    We still need

                    1a) True #2 WR
                    1b) Bigger, physical CB
                    3) TE
                    4) C of the future
                    5) FB
                    6) depth at LB, S, G/T

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                    • LifetimeBillsFan
                      All-Pro Zoner
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 4946

                      #11
                      Re: I have a feeling after today, we will only have 2 needs.

                      Scratch center and FB off of that list.

                      The Bills like Fowler and want to establish some continuity with their offensive line, they are not going to spend the kind of money necessary to bring in a center in free agency (Mike Flynn) who is good enough to replace Fowler. At best, they may draft a center in the middle rounds (there isn't really a center good enough for higher than a 3rd round pick in the draft) or bring in a lower-tier FA who can play center as well as OG to challenge D.Preston. Sorry, but barring injury, Fowler will be the Bills starting center on Opening Day of the season.

                      And, the Bills didn't sign D.Barnes for no reason--they signed him to be their blocking FB. They may bring in the FB from Atlanta that is supposed to visit--to back Barnes up and play a big role on STs. Or, they may draft a FB in the later rounds of the draft (they no longer have the extra picks to allow them to spend one high enough to get Schmitt). But, the odds of them spending the kind of money that it would take to get a Kreider, Neal or Richardson, when they have a decent blocker like Barnes who is younger and has less wear-and-tear on him, are very slim indeed. I will go so far out on a limb as to say that the only way that the Bills bring in one of those three higher-profile FBs is if the Bills don't draft a FB or sign the kid from Atlanta and one of them is sitting out there unemployed and willing to sign for relative peanuts after the first set of OTAs are over.

                      A TE, a DE, a # 2 WR, or a CB--those are positions that I could see the Bills spending some money on to upgrade at this point in free agency. And, definitely a back-up QB once they get JP Losman off the books (if they can do that). But, not C or FB. Especially if they want to leave enough room to extend Evans and perhaps talk with Crowell about extending his deal as well.
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                      • VeggieMan14
                        Registered User
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 1805

                        #12
                        Re: I have a feeling after today, we will only have 2 needs.

                        Originally posted by MLynch23
                        We got Stroud and Johnson and Mitchell. In my opinion theres a good chance we will be able to get Johnson and Troupe. So we should only have 2 needs after today. CB, and C. This will mean we could take big gambles in the draft. Like trade up from 11 and see if we could get Gholston. I like the way this offseason looks.
                        Wait we got Johnson????
                        I feel a win streak coming and a Bills Playoff Run!!!



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                        • YardRat
                          Well, lookie here...
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 86154

                          #13
                          Re: I have a feeling after today, we will only have 2 needs.

                          We still have plenty of needs, even if Johnson and Troupe sign today.

                          If we do land those two, I'd be pretty comfortable heading into the draft...If we don't we need to keep working on upgrades.
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                          • venis2k1
                            Youboty can hope
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 4621

                            #14
                            Re: I have a feeling after today, we will only have 2 needs.

                            Originally posted by MLynch23
                            Also a #2 QB isnt a NEED.

                            That might be the single stupidest thing anyone has ever said on this board.

                            A vet backup at QB is this teams biggest need if we move losman. Trent Edwards has played 1 healthy season in his last 5. Thats 4 of the past 5 years he has missed games due to injury. I cant stress this enough, to assume TE will be healthy all year is not reasonable. Trends predict otherwise. Lets say its Dec, we are in the playoff race, Edwards goes down, are you telling me the guy that replaces him for our final few games dosent matter? Or worse yet, A season ending preseason injury happens, do you really want to watch Ken Dorsey leading your bills for 16 games??

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                            • jimbohastle51
                              All-Pro Zoner
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 1823

                              #15
                              Re: I have a feeling after today, we will only have 2 needs.

                              Originally posted by LifetimeBillsFan
                              Scratch center and FB off of that list.

                              The Bills like Fowler and want to establish some continuity with their offensive line, they are not going to spend the kind of money necessary to bring in a center in free agency (Mike Flynn) who is good enough to replace Fowler. At best, they may draft a center in the middle rounds (there isn't really a center good enough for higher than a 3rd round pick in the draft) or bring in a lower-tier FA who can play center as well as OG to challenge D.Preston. Sorry, but barring injury, Fowler will be the Bills starting center on Opening Day of the season.

                              And, the Bills didn't sign D.Barnes for no reason--they signed him to be their blocking FB. They may bring in the FB from Atlanta that is supposed to visit--to back Barnes up and play a big role on STs. Or, they may draft a FB in the later rounds of the draft (they no longer have the extra picks to allow them to spend one high enough to get Schmitt). But, the odds of them spending the kind of money that it would take to get a Kreider, Neal or Richardson, when they have a decent blocker like Barnes who is younger and has less wear-and-tear on him, are very slim indeed. I will go so far out on a limb as to say that the only way that the Bills bring in one of those three higher-profile FBs is if the Bills don't draft a FB or sign the kid from Atlanta and one of them is sitting out there unemployed and willing to sign for relative peanuts after the first set of OTAs are over.

                              A TE, a DE, a # 2 WR, or a CB--those are positions that I could see the Bills spending some money on to upgrade at this point in free agency. And, definitely a back-up QB once they get JP Losman off the books (if they can do that). But, not C or FB. Especially if they want to leave enough room to extend Evans and perhaps talk with Crowell about extending his deal as well.
                              very true, we have too much money in our offensive line right now, and peters will probably get more money after this year if it is anything like last, if he has another pro bowl year theres no way he wont want a raise. and with dockery and walker the only way i see fowler not being our center is if we draft one in the 3rd or 4rh round. also your right barnes is a starting fullback in the NFL, the only way i see him not being our starter is if we got lucky and draft owen shmit (however it is spelled) i just dont see us signing another FB i know we have a visit scheduled but remember that kid out of atlanta is a RFA and would cost us a draft pick, i think barnes is the guy, and especially if we sign johnson from arizona, or trade for roy williams. johnson will not want the wilford deal 13 million. he wants the jerry porter deal 30million. though a 3rd reciever the guy has caught over 40 passes each year as a slot reciever and we gave roscoe parrish a big extension so i dont see us paying a new reciever and then dumping more money into a fullback when we need a TE so bad.

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