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Confused
03-04-2008, 07:52 PM
That sucks balls!!! Not only is he a sick gunner, but he's going to a divisional foe!!

RockStar36
03-04-2008, 07:53 PM
Welcome to yesterday....

RedEyE
03-04-2008, 07:57 PM
Hardly. He was a nice addition to special teams but was worthless as a WR on this team. Can't afford to keep guys of his size on the roster just for special teams play.

Mad Bomber
03-04-2008, 07:58 PM
That sucks balls!!! Not only is he a sick gunner, but he's going to a divisional foe!!
Big ****ing deal. No problem....it's not like Aiken was a major contributor to our offense.

SquishDaFish
03-04-2008, 08:06 PM
Big deal. Who really cares he wasnt great anyway

DrGraves
03-04-2008, 09:18 PM
boo hooo aiken is going to scortch us 2 twice a year on new englands practice squad

Mitchell55
03-04-2008, 09:20 PM
Um. Tasker was known for what Aiken accels in. I guess tasker was a horrible player to.

bills&sabresmvf
03-04-2008, 09:28 PM
Tasker actually played receiver and he also returned the ball. Aiken was allowed being a free agent to look elsewhere. They'll do just what they did with Fast Freddy, sign him and then release him. He might come back here, lol, like Fast Freddy did!

yordad
03-04-2008, 09:30 PM
boo hooo aiken is going to scortch us 2 twice a year on new englands practice squadUm... not even possible.

He was a good STer. Did we even offer him something?

What is he, their 7th WR? Or are they converting him to CB?

Naw. First they will pump him for info. Then he will make the pro bowl as a wide out.

yordad
03-04-2008, 09:32 PM
Maybe we sent him in as a spy. DJ is always thinking. And, it seems like Bellicheat is always one step behind. :boost:

Oaf
03-04-2008, 11:47 PM
Um. Tasker was known for what Aiken accels in. I guess tasker was a horrible player to.
Um. To compare Aiken to Tasker is the single most rediculous thing I've seen here for awhile.

Did anyone actually see Aiken on ST this year? No. Do you know why? Because Jenkins beat him out for the gunner spot, sending him to the bench. Jenkins did great and Aiken couldn't get on offense DISPITE his 6-2 frame, the Price injury, the Reed injury, and the size of our other WRs.

Never been this happy to see a player go. A great worker, but he'll be cut after he spills to the Pats.

DrGraves
03-04-2008, 11:53 PM
Um. Tasker was known for what Aiken accels in. I guess tasker was a horrible player to.

How could you even begin to compare same Aiken to Steve Tasker (who is the greatest special teamer ever) ?!!?

Johnny Bugmenot
03-05-2008, 07:46 AM
Um... not even possible.

He was a good STer. Did we even offer him something?

What is he, their 7th WR? Or are they converting him to CB?

Naw. First they will pump him for info. Then he will make the pro bowl as a wide out.

Sarcasm is your friend...

ghz in pittsburgh
03-05-2008, 07:50 AM
He'll be Pats special team guy.

Ickybaluky
03-05-2008, 07:55 AM
He'll be Pats special team guy.

That is basically what Belichick said. He and Kelley Washington are currently the 5th & 6th WR, and both are big ST'ers. The top 4 WR are set (Moss, Welker, Gaffney, C. Jackson). Belichick values ST a great deal, and they made Aiken a target on the first day of FA because they thought he was tough to stop on ST the 2 times a year they played against him in the last several seasons.

Really, he isn't even filling a slot at WR. He is taking Mel Mitchell's place on ST. Mitchell was listed as a S, but he was on the team strictly for his ST ability.

don137
03-05-2008, 07:57 AM
Well sine the Patriots can no longer cheat and video tape they now sign players like Aiken and Webster to learn the playbook to get the inside scoop. Its not like either signed big contracts...Just long enough to pick their brain and then dump them...

VeggieMan14
03-05-2008, 07:58 AM
That is basically what Belichick said. He and Kelley Washington are currently the 5th & 6th WR, and both are big ST'ers. The top 4 WR are set (Moss, Welker, Gaffney, C. Jackson). Belichick values ST a great deal, and they made Aiken a target on the first day of FA because they thought he was tough to stop on ST the 2 times a year they played against him in the last several seasons.

Really, he isn't even filling a slot at WR. He is taking Mel Mitchell's place on ST. Mitchell was listed as a S, but he was on the team strictly for his ST ability. as far asim concerned you can have him

Jan Reimers
03-05-2008, 08:02 AM
In order to get better, we need to fill the roster with guys who can contribute as position players. We can't afford WRs who never catch a pass, or LBs who can't play a regular down, even when the starter gets injured.

Special Teams are still extremely important. But good STers can certainly be found among the guys who can also contribute as position players.

VeggieMan14
03-05-2008, 08:12 AM
In order to get better, we need to fill the roster with guys who can contribute as position players. We can't afford WRs who never catch a pass, or LBs who can't play a regular down, even when the starter gets injured.

Special Teams are still extremely important. But good STers can certainly be found among the guys who can also contribute as position players. exactly. don't spend a bunch of money on people who only play special teams. unless of course they are the ones actually returning the kicks

DraftBoy
03-05-2008, 08:14 AM
Um. To compare Aiken to Tasker is the single most rediculous thing I've seen here for awhile.

Did anyone actually see Aiken on ST this year? No. Do you know why? Because Jenkins beat him out for the gunner spot, sending him to the bench. Jenkins did great and Aiken couldn't get on offense DISPITE his 6-2 frame, the Price injury, the Reed injury, and the size of our other WRs.

Never been this happy to see a player go. A great worker, but he'll be cut after he spills to the Pats.

That is a great point Jenkins did beat him out and played very well as a gunner for us once in the lineup.

Tinboy
03-05-2008, 12:16 PM
Would be surprised if he got cut after the training camp.

TigerJ
03-05-2008, 02:43 PM
boo hooo aiken is going to scortch us 2 twice a year on new englands practice squad

Is Aiken eligible to be on a PS.

I'm assuming Belicheat needed one offensive player form the Bills to go along with Jason Webster so he could try and learn any offensive signal updates Aiken can provide. Webster is givng him the defensive signals. That's OK though Buffalo is going to have enough change in both to screw Belichick.

BuffaloRanger
03-05-2008, 02:52 PM
You guys realize that this is what the Patriots do right? They have done it for years.

They sign FAs that played for other AFC East teams and pump them for information. 2 of their 3 FA signings this offseason were former Bills.

They were the first team after Z Thomas. They cashed in on Welker. Seau too.

If Jason Taylor ever became available he'd be going to the Pats.

I'm not saying that these moves help them, or that they even need them. But it's pretty obvious the Pats think signing several guys each off season that played in the AFC East is a good thing.

Ickybaluky
03-05-2008, 03:11 PM
You guys realize that this is what the Patriots do right? They have done it for years.

They sign FAs that played for other AFC East teams and pump them for information. 2 of their 3 FA signings this offseason were former Bills.

They were the first team after Z Thomas. They cashed in on Welker. Seau too.

If Jason Taylor ever became available he'd be going to the Pats.

I'm not saying that these moves help them, or that they even need them. But it's pretty obvious the Pats think signing several guys each off season that played in the AFC East is a good thing.

They like to sign the guys that give them trouble. They gave Aiken a 2-year deal that can be worth up to $2M with incentives on the first day of FA. That doesn't sound like he is just some schmoe they went after. Basically, they value ST and he gave them problems. That is the same reason they went after Welker and Morris. Both were guys they had trouble with in the past.

The Bills haven't even had minicamp yet, do you think Webster or Aiken are going to be able to tell them anything about next season? What are they going to be able to tell them that they don't already know? Seriously, the Pats beat the Bills twice last year by a combined score of 94-17. Ya' know?

Bulldog
03-05-2008, 04:31 PM
They like to sign the guys that give them trouble. They gave Aiken a 2-year deal that can be worth up to $2M with incentives on the first day of FA. That doesn't sound like he is just some schmoe they went after. Basically, they value ST and he gave them problems. That is the same reason they went after Welker and Morris. Both were guys they had trouble with in the past.

The Bills haven't even had minicamp yet, do you think Webster or Aiken are going to be able to tell them anything about next season? What are they going to be able to tell them that they don't already know? Seriously, the Pats beat the Bills twice last year by a combined score of 94-17. Ya' know?

Plus they have "video footage" from the past six years. Ya' know?

Ickybaluky
03-07-2008, 07:59 AM
The Pats gave Aiken a $225K signing bonus, which indicates he has a good chance to make the team.

Captain gameboy
03-07-2008, 09:27 AM
The Bills haven't even had minicamp yet, do you think Webster or Aiken are going to be able to tell them anything about next season? What are they going to be able to tell them that they don't already know? Seriously, the Pats beat the Bills twice last year by a combined score of 94-17. Ya' know?

We suffer from Pa(t)anoia.

With Aiken, the Pats will score two touchdowns on every Brady possession.
Not just one, as they did at home against us last year.

TAKE THAT TO THE BANK, Mister

Johnny Bugmenot
03-07-2008, 09:42 AM
Is Aiken eligible to be on a PS.

I'm assuming Belicheat needed one offensive player form the Bills to go along with Jason Webster so he could try and learn any offensive signal updates Aiken can provide. Webster is givng him the defensive signals. That's OK though Buffalo is going to have enough change in both to screw Belichick.
Problem is... we now have a new OC. Schonert has never been an OC before and will probably institute ideas no one has seen before.

And no, Aiken is not PS eligible.

Johnny Bugmenot
03-07-2008, 09:43 AM
What are they going to be able to tell them that they don't already know? Seriously, the Pats beat the Bills twice last year by a combined score of 94-17. Ya' know?
And you think they got there the honest way...?

Oaf
03-08-2008, 04:56 PM
They like to sign the guys that give them trouble. They gave Aiken a 2-year deal that can be worth up to $2M with incentives on the first day of FA. That doesn't sound like he is just some schmoe they went after. Basically, they value ST and he gave them problems. That is the same reason they went after Welker and Morris. Both were guys they had trouble with in the past.

The Bills haven't even had minicamp yet, do you think Webster or Aiken are going to be able to tell them anything about next season? What are they going to be able to tell them that they don't already know? Seriously, the Pats beat the Bills twice last year by a combined score of 94-17. Ya' know?
By problems, do you mean making fun of your players when they came to our sideline? He might of played the first game, but Jenkins took over soon after for the rest of the year. And judging from the preseason, he actually has some WR ability and played GREAT on ST. Anyone see that shoestring tackle he made on the Miami video from JJamezz?

Ickybaluky
03-08-2008, 05:34 PM
By problems, do you mean making fun of your players when they came to our sideline?

No, I mean they were impressed with his ST play, so they targeted him early in FA as a ST-er. Having played against the guy twice a year since 2003, they had a good chance to see him up close. The Pats carry 4-5 slots on the roster specifically for ST, and Aiken is a guy they slot for one of those spots.

It should be noted that Aiken had groin and knee injuries early last year and it nagged him. He only played in 12 games. However, in his career he has been a very good ST gunner, which is the role he will play on the Pats. It is a big advantage on ST to have 2 WR who can play ST at a high level, which the Pats do with Kelley Washington and Aiken. Normally, the best ST players are found among the LB's and DB's.