Update: Johnson Value Falling?

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  • Devin
    The Octagon
    • Apr 2003
    • 23878

    Update: Johnson Value Falling?


    Cardinals UFA WR Bryant Johnson: Clearly, this is the name that has been speculated about most. Johnson visited the Bills on Monday, where in an interview with the team claimed to have a visit scheduled with the Washington Redskins. The Redskins have since denied having a scheduled visit from Johnson. We have not heard anything for about 48 hours, other than ESPN's John Clayton reporting that the two sides were still negotiating as of this morning.

    The problem with getting Johnson (who wants to be a Bill) on board is the contract. Given the fact that "proven commodities" such as Bernard Berrian and Javon Walker and "unproven commodities" such as Ernest Wilford have signed contracts light-years apart in terms of dollar amounts, it's likely that the Bills and the Johnson camp are looking for a middle ground. It could very well be that the two sides are working on an incentive-laden deal and are attempting to hammer out the finer details of a contract. It could also be that the Bills are merely keeping in touch, waiting for Johnson's market value to dip the longer he's available. Regardless, at this point - given how little interest Johnson has received, coupled with some other strategic signings - I'd be shocked if Johnson hasn't signed with the Bills before the weekend.
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  • Nighthawk
    Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
    • Jul 2002
    • 15437

    #2
    Re: Update: Johnson Value Falling?

    Originally posted by Devin
    Waiting can go either way. They've already screwed themselves by waiting and letting another WR (Walker) sign, which drove the market up. I don't want to see them overpay, but they should have learned something from the Sabres...waiting doesn't work!

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    • Yasgur's Farm
      Moderator
      • Feb 2005
      • 7091

      #3
      Re: Update: Johnson Value Falling?

      Give BJ his $4M per year and draft Harding in round 2.

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      • TigerJ
        Registered User
        • Jul 2002
        • 22575

        #4
        Re: Update: Johnson Value Falling?

        Do you know that the Bills actually had any interest in Walker given the shape of his knee? Maybe they waited because they weren't interested.
        I've made up my mind. Don't confuse me with the facts.

        I'm the most reasonable poster here. If you don't agree, I'll be forced to have a hissy fit.

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        • Philagape
          WIN NOW
          • Jul 2002
          • 19432

          #5
          Re: Update: Johnson Value Falling?

          "middle ground"?? There is no reason Johnson should expect more than what Wilford got.
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          • Nighthawk
            Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
            • Jul 2002
            • 15437

            #6
            Re: Update: Johnson Value Falling?

            Originally posted by TigerJ
            Do you know that the Bills actually had any interest in Walker given the shape of his knee? Maybe they waited because they weren't interested.
            You misunderstood. I didn't say they were interested in Walker, I said that Walker's contract signing drove up the market for Johnson.

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            • YardRat
              Well, lookie here...
              • Dec 2004
              • 86288

              #7
              Re: Update: Johnson Value Falling?

              Give him a fair contract offer and get him signed...If he wants to much, let him go elsewhere.

              I really think this signing is necessary, but I'm not willing to overpay for him.
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              • PECKERWOOD
                Defies all logic
                • Oct 2006
                • 13170

                #8
                Re: Update: Johnson Value Falling?

                Originally posted by Philagape
                "middle ground"?? There is no reason Johnson should expect more than what Wilford got.
                Johnson is a much better WR than Wilford, imo.

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                • Tatonka
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 21289

                  #9
                  Re: Update: Johnson Value Falling?

                  Originally posted by BuffaloFever
                  Johnson is a much better WR than Wilford, imo.
                  based on what.. lol

                  not his production.

                  the guy is an average wr who is tall. that is it.
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                  • DraftBoy
                    Administrator
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 107442

                    #10
                    Re: Update: Johnson Value Falling?

                    Originally posted by Tatonka
                    based on what.. lol

                    not his production.

                    the guy is an average wr who is tall. that is it.
                    Based on his production he does deserve more money than Wilford, again he has better stats and averages more catches, and yards per year. Does he deserve a ton more? No, but he does deserve more.
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                    We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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                    • Mad Bomber
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 12927

                      #11
                      Re: Update: Johnson Value Falling?

                      Originally posted by Tatonka
                      based on what.. lol

                      not his production.

                      the guy is an average wr who is tall. that is it.
                      Exactly. No way we should pay him big bucks. We could get an equivalent receiver in the draft for fewer bucks.

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                      • Tatonka
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 21289

                        #12
                        Re: Update: Johnson Value Falling?

                        Originally posted by DraftBoy
                        Based on his production he does deserve more money than Wilford, again he has better stats and averages more catches, and yards per year. Does he deserve a ton more? No, but he does deserve more.
                        um.. johnson was a starter for half the year.. and a 3rd wr the rest.. i would hope he has better numbers.. although the numbers still are still average regardless.

                        wilford vs. johnson is like compairing a turd to a piece of crap.
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                        • DraftBoy
                          Administrator
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 107442

                          #13
                          Re: Update: Johnson Value Falling?

                          Originally posted by Tatonka
                          um.. johnson was a starter for half the year.. and a 3rd wr the rest.. i would hope he has better numbers.. although the numbers still are still average regardless.

                          wilford vs. johnson is like compairing a turd to a piece of crap.

                          What do the numbers say T? Whose got the better stats over their entire careers not just last year. You can ignore them all you like but they dont change. If we were both FA's and you had better numbers then I did, you'd be damn sure to ask for more money, you'd be stupid not to.
                          COMING SOON...
                          Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                          We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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                          • DraftBoy
                            Administrator
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 107442

                            #14
                            Re: Update: Johnson Value Falling?

                            Just to note: Wilford started 14 games this year and had worst stats then Johnson, but Wilford deserves the same kind of money?
                            COMING SOON...
                            Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                            We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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                            • LtFinFan66
                              Registered User
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 47199

                              #15
                              Re: Update: Johnson Value Falling?

                              Originally posted by DraftBoy
                              Based on his production he does deserve more money than Wilford, again he has better stats and averages more catches, and yards per year. Does he deserve a ton more? No, but he does deserve more.
                              Really Seems pretty even IMO

                              Johnson: 210 catches 2,675 yards 12.7 avg 9 TD's

                              Wilford: 141 catches 1,994 yards 14.1 avg 14 TD's


                              5 years for Johnson.....4 for Wilford

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