Forget Johnson, With All Our Picks, Do We Draft 2 WR's?

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  • raphael120
    Jason Peters rigorous at home training regiment
    • Oct 2005
    • 5152

    Forget Johnson, With All Our Picks, Do We Draft 2 WR's?

    Ok, youve all seen the insane money being thrown at FA WR's...

    Here's something the Bills could do to improve the WR corps immediately while at the same time building a very strong WR corps for the future.

    Draft Sweed/Kelly with your first rounder.

    Now I read somewhere that we will probably be getting some compensatory picks also, so why not (with such depth at WR in the draft) draft another WR in the 4th or later rounds? If you're thinking "Well why would we draft 2 of the same position in the same draft?", I need to remind you that last year we drafted Lynch in the first, and Wright in the 5th.

    I could see us doing that same thing this draft with the WR position. It's a way to improve immediately (Kelly/Sweed coulds start alongside Evans) and whoever we'd draft in the 5th could play in 4/5-wide situations (Schonert mentioned he wanted to open up the offense and do that more, put all of our weapons on the field as much as we can).

    Here's my reasoning. Bryant Johnson has never been in a #2 WR role for extended periods of time, when he was in that position he did OK....dare I say about as well as a stud WR we'd draft in the first round would do like a Sweed or Kelly. Only thing is, a Kelly/Sweed guy would be much cheaper, and would have a MUCH bigger upside. The more and more I think about it the more and more I think the Bills are doing the right thing by not signing Johnson unless he realizes we can take or leave him. I think he needs us more than we need him at this point (at least if his asking price is high). I think this is why all other teams are backing off because of Johnsons demands.

    Thoughts?
  • jmb1099
    Registered User
    • Sep 2004
    • 3354

    #2
    Re: Forget Johnson, With All Our Picks, Do We Draft 2 WR's?

    I'm dreaming I know, but Kelly and Sweed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • jmb1099
      Registered User
      • Sep 2004
      • 3354

      #3
      Re: Forget Johnson, With All Our Picks, Do We Draft 2 WR's?

      Seriously, there is no sense on breaking the bank when the wr class is as deep as it is
      WR market is crazy, unless Johnson comes back to earth, draft away

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      • Meathead
        Insufferable ***** and perpetual crybaby
        • Jul 2002
        • 21349

        #4
        Re: Forget Johnson, With All Our Picks, Do We Draft 2 WR's?

        no matter how good they are a rookie wr is a liability as a starter. only basement teams should start a rook at that position

        even if the bills had a total monster number one like moss or to or fitz theyd still highly prefer to have a decent vet opposite if they are serious about shooting for the playoffs. evans is good but hes not that good so they gotta sign somebody like johnson. both sides know that which is one reason its taking so long
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        • jmb1099
          Registered User
          • Sep 2004
          • 3354

          #5
          Re: Forget Johnson, With All Our Picks, Do We Draft 2 WR's?

          Originally posted by Meathead
          no matter how good they are a rookie wr is a liability as a starter. only basement teams should start a rook at that position

          even if the bills had a total monster number one like moss or to or fitz theyd still highly prefer to have a decent vet opposite if they are serious about shooting for the playoffs. evans is good but hes not that good so they gotta sign somebody like johnson. both sides know that which is one reason its taking so long
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          However, good points

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          • raphael120
            Jason Peters rigorous at home training regiment
            • Oct 2005
            • 5152

            #6
            Re: Forget Johnson, With All Our Picks, Do We Draft 2 WR's?

            Bryant Johnson never being a true #2 reciever in his career may be a liability too.

            Thing is, you never know...Kelly/Sweed could be as good or better than a Bryant Johnson at the #2 WR position. And would come cheaper too.

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            • Meathead
              Insufferable ***** and perpetual crybaby
              • Jul 2002
              • 21349

              #7
              Re: Forget Johnson, With All Our Picks, Do We Draft 2 WR's?

              possible but unlikely. a wr making a mental mistake can easily result in a blown third down conversion or worse a pick and a game changing return for a td. thats why qbs dont have much confidence in them and hesitate to throw their way

              if the bills cant find a vet to take that spot the offense will suffer but they may end up having no choice but to platoon a rook with reed and parrish
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              • FlyingDutchman
                Registered User
                • Apr 2005
                • 5074

                #8
                Re: Forget Johnson, With All Our Picks, Do We Draft 2 WR's?

                Theres no need to draft 2 WRs unless we grab one late in the draft. We obviously need a #2 either FA or early in the draft. But Josh Reed is servicable and so is Parrish. Odds are we are not gonna get a WR who is step in and take over their roll at #3, and 4 so whats the point in drafting 2 WRs? We still have a lot of holes to fill. If we do draft one late, it will be strictly for depth, but I wouldnt count on that draft pick to make an impact.

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                • Jayhawk
                  Registered User
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 9133

                  #9
                  Re: Forget Johnson, With All Our Picks, Do We Draft 2 WR's?

                  Sweed/Kelly in the first two rounds! where do I sign?
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                  • patmoran2006
                    Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 19840

                    #10
                    Re: Forget Johnson, With All Our Picks, Do We Draft 2 WR's?

                    How sweeet would it be to draft Kelly at 11, then move back into the first round and grab Sweed as well.

                    That would be fun.. aint ever gonna happen though


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                    • raphael120
                      Jason Peters rigorous at home training regiment
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 5152

                      #11
                      Re: Forget Johnson, With All Our Picks, Do We Draft 2 WR's?

                      Originally posted by patmoran2006
                      How sweeet would it be to draft Kelly at 11, then move back into the first round and grab Sweed as well.

                      That would be fun.. aint ever gonna happen though
                      Cha, right. And monkeys might fly outta my butt!

                      Sorry, just watched Waynes World.

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                      • Al the Bills Fan
                        Registered User
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 1187

                        #12
                        Re: Forget Johnson, With All Our Picks, Do We Draft 2 WR's?

                        I am all for drafting two WRs in this year's draft! It will certainly help solidify our WR core for the future, the problem is you cannot count on 2 rookie WRs to produce. Starting one rookie WR is risky, 2 would be insane.

                        Drafting 2 WRs doesn't help us a ton this year (unless those two rookies last names are Kelly & Sweed, I know it won't happen) but we would see the benefits in the future for sure.

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                        • John Doe
                          Florida Man
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 2514

                          #13
                          Re: Forget Johnson, With All Our Picks, Do We Draft 2 WR's?

                          Justin Jenkins might be more reliable than a low round draft pick at wide receiver. Assuming that the team does not sign B. Johnson, if the Bills pick a receiver very low, he could wind up on the practice squad:

                          Reed
                          Parrish
                          Evans
                          Jenkins
                          Rookie
                          George Wilson (depth at defensive back and wide receiver)

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                          • raphael120
                            Jason Peters rigorous at home training regiment
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 5152

                            #14
                            Re: Forget Johnson, With All Our Picks, Do We Draft 2 WR's?

                            Say we do get Johnson.

                            Do we still draft a WR in a later round? And if we do, he's probably going to just be the 5th WR. Jenkins I remember was very good in special teams duty so would Jenkins go back to the practice squad?

                            I think what the Bills are thinking about is that if they get Johnson, thats pretty much all the big work theyre doing on adding to the WR corps. Theyre not going to get Johnson and another WR with a first day pick unless theyre looking to cut Reed.

                            It gets interesting with all the options that we have for addressing the WR position. In the end, it really comes down to what we think about Evans and if we extend him or not. Once we find that out we can narrow down the possibilities.

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                            • Ferrygoat
                              Registered User
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 298

                              #15
                              Re: Forget Johnson, With All Our Picks, Do We Draft 2 WR's?

                              I seen this in Chris Brown's Fan Friday section but i agree with what he had to say and figured it fit in pretty good with this post.

                              " There's no question that there are big receiver options in the draft like Limas Sweed, Malcolm Kelly, Devin Thomas and James Hardy. But rookie receivers rarely put up big numbers in their first year. Calvin Johnson might be the most freakish athlete I've seen at wide receiver since Randy Moss and his production is what you'd hope for from a number two wideout (48-756 yards, 4 TDs) that's a rookie. Whether this year's crop of big receivers can do the same is a roll of the dice. They all adjust to the pro game differently. I personally like Devin Thomas the most, though I'm not opposed to Kelly either."

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