Crazy draft idea that might work....

[Mitchy moo]

What if the Bills give up their first and second this year and their second next year to move up enough to get Dorsey? I bet that Dallas would probably give us their 2 1st rounders for him. We could then draft Kelly and Sweed with those picks and almost assure ourselves at least 1 if not 2 long term WR's to soldify us at that position. That would allow us to keep Lee for this season and the ability to franchise him next year to give those 2 guys time to get that much better.

I just feel that the Bills are so underserved at WR that focusing on having 2 longer term / cheaper options makes sense. Since they would both be drafted later in the first round, their price would not be that high for signing and allow us to focus on extending the talent that we have.

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[LtFinFan66]

Re: Crazy draft idea that might work....

Dallas doesn't want Dorsey. McFadden maybe

[Mitchy moo]

Re: Crazy draft idea that might work....

Dallas doesn't want Dorsey. McFadden maybe

Well how about Mcfadden then?? Where would he be likely to be drafted?

This draft is real deep in WR's and that just happens to be a position that besides Lee we are underserved big time. We also are not going to be able to afford Lee at the amounts being thrown and good WR's now and having 2 cheaper alternatives for the long term would afford us the ability to resign other players we have and to focus on other areas of weakness over the coming years.

[Kenny]

Re: Crazy draft idea that might work....

So essentially we'd be paying a first, a second, and next year's second for Kelly and Sweed?

Intersting idea, but in reality, we'd have to move up to the top5 spot, and I dont think it would be enough to get us there.

And, while Kelly and Sweed are decent prospects, I dont think they ranked anywhere near as high as did Fitzgerald, C. Johnson, Roy Williams, etc... did coming out of college...
I dont like trading up to get any of these guys... heck, I dont even think either of these guys are 'worth' the 11th spot.

[FlyingDutchman]

Re: Crazy draft idea that might work....

The title of this thread should have stopped after "crazy draft idea"

[Mitchy moo]

Re: Crazy draft idea that might work....

So essentially we'd be paying a first, a second, and next year's second for Kelly and Sweed?

Intersting idea, but in reality, we'd have to move up to the top5 spot, and I dont think it would be enough to get us there.

And, while Kelly and Sweed are decent prospects, I dont think they ranked anywhere near as high as did Fitzgerald, C. Johnson, Roy Williams, etc... did coming out of college...
I dont like trading up to get any of these guys... heck, I dont even think either of these guys are 'worth' the 11th spot.

Looking at the draft chart, our 1st is worth 1,250 and our second is worth 470 and our 2nd next year should be worth ~400. That is enough to get us into the 3rd or 4th pick, which should be good enough to get Mcfadeen or Dorsey. We obviously would need to gauge the interest of Dallas in doing this on draft day but it seems like a doable situation to get close. We also have to weigh in the Lee is probably a goner after 2 more years here and really have done nothing in FA to address that situation of needing to solid WR's for years to come.

Draft Pick Value Chart
Round 1		Round 2		Round 3		Round 4		Round 5		Round 6		Round 7		Other
1	3000	33	580	65	265	97	112	129	43	161	28	193	15.2	225	2.9
2	2600	34	560	66	260	98	108	130	42	162	27.6	194	14.8	226	2.8
3	2200	35	550	67	255	99	104	131	41	163	27.2	195	14.4	227	2.7
4	1800	36	540	68	250	100	100	132	40	164	26.8	196	14	228	2.6
5	1700	37	530	69	245	101	96	133	39.5	165	26.4	197	13.6	229	2.5
6	1600	38	520	70	240	102	92	134	39	166	26	198	13.2	230	2.4
7	1500	39	510	71	235	103	88	135	38.5	167	25.6	199	12.8	231	2.3
8	1400	40	500	72	230	104	86	136	38	168	25.2	200	12.4	232	2.2
9	1350	41	490	73	225	105	84	137	37.5	169	24.8	201	12	233	2.1
10	1300	42	480	74	220	106	82	138	37	170	24.4	202	11.6	234	2
11	1250	43	470	75	215	107	80	139	36.5	171	24	203	11.2	235	1.9
12	1200	44	460	76	210	108	78	140	36	172	23.6	204	10.8	236	1.8
13	1150	45	450	77	205	109	76	141	35.5	173	23.2	205	10.4	237	1.7
14	1100	46	440	78	200	110	74	142	35	174	22.8	206	10	238	1.6
15	1050	47	430	79	195	111	72	143	34.5	175	22.4	207	9.6	239	1.5
16	1000	48	420	80	190	112	70	144	34	176	22	208	9.2	240	1.4
17	950	49	410	81	185	113	68	145	33.5	177	21.6	209	8.8	241	1.3
18	900	50	400	82	180	114	66	146	33	178	21.2	210	8.4	242	1.2
19	875	51	390	83	175	115	64	147	32.6	179	20.8	211	8	243	1.1
20	850	52	380	84	170	116	62	148	32.2	180	20.4	212	7.6	244	1
21	800	53	370	85	165	117	60	149	31.8	181	20	213	7.2	245	0.95
22	780	54	360	86	160	118	58	150	31.4	182	19.6	214	6.8	246	0.9
23	760	55	350	87	155	119	56	151	31	183	19.2	215	6.4	247	0.85
24	740	56	340	88	150	120	54	152	31.8	184	18.8	216	6	248	0.8
25	720	57	330	89	145	121	52	153	31.2	185	18.4	217	5.6	249	0.75
26	700	58	320	90	140	122	50	154	30.8	186	18	218	5.2	250	0.7
27	680	59	310	91	136	123	49	155	30.4	187	17.6	219	4.8	251	0.65
28	660	60	300	92	132	124	48	156	30	188	17.2	220	4.4	252	0.6
29	640	61	292	93	128	125	47	157	29.6	189	16.8	221	4	253	0.55
30	620	62	284	94	124	126	46	158	29.2	190	16.4	222	3.6	254	0.5
31	600	63	276	95	120	127	45	159	28.8	191	16	223	3.3	255	0.45
32	590	64	270	96	116	128	44	160	28.4	192	15.6	224	3	256	0.4

[Mitchy moo]

Re: Crazy draft idea that might work....

The title of this thread should have stopped after "crazy draft idea"

It's doable by chart alone, gauging the desire by Dallas is the key. Dallas also has a good team and it's obvious that Jones would like to sell more seats in the monster he built so I would plan on Dallas making some big noise this draft. When you force people to buy chairs at the price he is, he needs to bring in bigger names and push buttons.

[FlyingDutchman]

Re: Crazy draft idea that might work....

It's doable by chart alone, gauging the desire by Dallas is the key. Dallas also has a good team and it's obvious that Jones would like to sell more seats in the monster he built so I would plan on Dallas making some big noise this draft. When you force people to buy chairs at the price he is, he needs to bring in bigger names and push buttons.

The Dallas Cowboys are one of the biggest sports franchises in the country. They are right there with the Yankees. They have one of the biggest followings of any team in the league. Drafting a "name" player in the draft is not going to effect ticket sales. The fact that they are a great team, with big names already, and the allure of a new stadium is reason enough for the Cowboys to sell out every game.

[Mitchy moo]

Re: Crazy draft idea that might work....

The Dallas Cowboys are one of the biggest sports franchises in the country. They are right there with the Yankees. They have one of the biggest followings of any team in the league. Drafting a "name" player in the draft is not going to effect ticket sales. The fact that they are a great team, with big names already, and the allure of a new stadium is reason enough for the Cowboys to sell out every game.

Jones always goes bigger and better. He is going to use his 2 1st round picks to grab a high name player in this draft one way or the other. I would just like the Bills to benefit from it.

[Mitchy moo]

Re: Crazy draft idea that might work....

We might even be able to just give our first and second this year to move up and grab Mcfadden or Dorsey depending on how much they fall.

[BILLSROCK1212]

Re: Crazy draft idea that might work....

stop playing madden

[Mitchy moo]

Re: Crazy draft idea that might work....

stop playing madden

This is the year of the receiver and Jones is trying to sell tickets, it makes sense.

[Bone]

Re: Crazy draft idea that might work....

Jp and Lee Evans for Dallas' 22 overall pick. Does that add up point wise? I don't want that to happen but I think something like that is going to happen.

[Mitchy moo]

Re: Crazy draft idea that might work....

Jp and Lee Evans for Dallas' 22 overall pick. Does that add up point wise? I don't want that to happen but I think something like that is going to happen.

Well JP is a 4th or 4rd at best and we need Lee for at least 1 more year if not 2. It makes no sense to give up your #1 WR when you need a another.

[Bone]

Re: Crazy draft idea that might work....

I know it doesn't make any sense but It something the Bills would do IMO.. Think about were going to have to pay Evans close to what Fitzgerald got...No matter what Lee says he is always going to want JP as the qb.

With the 11th pick we could possibly get DRC

Trade Lee Evans for Dallas' 22nd and possibly grab Kelly, Thomas or Sweed...