I've never been a real big fan of the 3-4

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  • Earthquake Enyart
    Legendary Zoner
    • Jul 2002
    • 27521

    I've never been a real big fan of the 3-4

    But, how about we draft Dan Connor and go 3-4?

    Stroud could be a NT in a 3-4. We have plenty of ends. McCargo could probably play DE in a 3-4 as well.
  • venis2k1
    Youboty can hope
    • Jul 2002
    • 4621

    #2
    Re: I've never been a real big fan of the 3-4

    We have no ends big enough to play DE in a 3-4. Plus Perry Fool has never run it, he is a tampa 2 guy, kinda late to bring in a new DC.

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    • YardRat
      Well, lookie here...
      • Dec 2004
      • 86171

      #3
      Re: I've never been a real big fan of the 3-4

      Our ends would get rolled in a three-four. None of them have enough ass to maintain position at the LOS once the ball is snapped.
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      • ParanoidAndroid
        My battery is low and it's getting dark.
        • Apr 2004
        • 16847

        #4
        Re: I've never been a real big fan of the 3-4

        The problem with that is that we have 2 purely 4-3 ends in Denney and Kelsay. Schobel might be able to shift back to OLB, but then who sits if you draft Connor? We would have to draft a back-up NT fairly early and then you still might not have the right DE's although Johnson and McCargo might be good there. Schobel, Denney and Kelsay are some expensive back-ups.

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        • Earthquake Enyart
          Legendary Zoner
          • Jul 2002
          • 27521

          #5
          Re: I've never been a real big fan of the 3-4

          Originally posted by YardRat
          Our ends would get rolled in a three-four. None of them have enough ass to maintain position at the LOS once the ball is snapped.
          Bruce Smith never weighed more than 270

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          • Kenny
            Registered User
            • Aug 2004
            • 2728

            #6
            Re: I've never been a real big fan of the 3-4

            Originally posted by Earthquake Enyart
            Bruce Smith never weighed more than 270
            Yeah, but that was Bruce. Not just one of the best DE's in the history of the game, but arguably one the best defensive players to ever take the field.

            Kind of like saying it's okay to have a 180 pound running back because Sanders was small too.

            Bad things man... bad things.

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            • dannyek71
              Drink Responsibly
              • Dec 2004
              • 6945

              #7
              Re: I've never been a real big fan of the 3-4

              If we were totally revamping our D, i'd say to look at the 3-4. But why did we go out and spend a 1st on McCargo and trade for Stroud then? (Both your typical 4-3 scheme DT)
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              • patmoran2006
                Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
                • Dec 2005
                • 19840

                #8
                Re: I've never been a real big fan of the 3-4

                1- For starters, they didn't sign Johnson and trade for Stroud, and invest a 1st in McCargo to only use one DT. DT went from a weakness to a strength just days into FA.

                2- If we were going to do that (and we're soooo not) the move would be to shift Crowell inside with Poz and land Keith Rivers from USC.


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                • Dr. Lecter
                  Zero for Zero!
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 67938

                  #9
                  Re: I've never been a real big fan of the 3-4

                  Our corners are also not good enough to hold coverage in a 3-4.
                  Originally posted by mysticsoto
                  Lecter is right in everything he said.

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                  • djjimkelly
                    Registered User
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 7045

                    #10
                    Re: I've never been a real big fan of the 3-4

                    Originally posted by Earthquake Enyart
                    But, how about we draft Dan Connor and go 3-4?

                    Stroud could be a NT in a 3-4. We have plenty of ends. McCargo could probably play DE in a 3-4 as well.

                    i can only dream maybe next year when dick is gone

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                    • djjimkelly
                      Registered User
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 7045

                      #11
                      Re: I've never been a real big fan of the 3-4

                      Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                      Our corners are also not good enough to hold coverage in a 3-4.

                      i beg to differ 3-4 is about pressure our corners are no worse then the steelers corners

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                      • YardRat
                        Well, lookie here...
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 86171

                        #12
                        Re: I've never been a real big fan of the 3-4

                        Originally posted by Earthquake Enyart
                        Bruce Smith never weighed more than 270
                        Bruce Smith was in a class with very few peers. Bruce had more physical tools and ability than all of the DE's on our current roster combined.
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                        • Dr. Lecter
                          Zero for Zero!
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 67938

                          #13
                          Re: I've never been a real big fan of the 3-4

                          Originally posted by djjimkelly
                          i beg to differ 3-4 is about pressure our corners are no worse then the steelers corners
                          Without strong blitzing LB's there is no pressure.
                          Originally posted by mysticsoto
                          Lecter is right in everything he said.

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                          • Dr. Lecter
                            Zero for Zero!
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 67938

                            #14
                            Re: I've never been a real big fan of the 3-4

                            Originally posted by djjimkelly
                            i can only dream maybe next year when dick is gone
                            Wouldn't you prefer the Bills finish 11-5 and make the playoffs?

                            Why dream about the Bills having a bad season? it makes no sense.
                            Originally posted by mysticsoto
                            Lecter is right in everything he said.

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                            • patmoran2006
                              Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 19840

                              #15
                              Re: I've never been a real big fan of the 3-4

                              Originally posted by djjimkelly
                              i can only dream maybe next year when dick is gone
                              Sorry bro. WIlson's puppet aint going anywhere.

                              If the bills win 4 games, he's back next year.


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