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  • Night Train
    Retired - On Several Levels
    • Jul 2005
    • 33117

    A Drafted #2 WR CAN Be A Factor Right Away

    Because he's NOT expected to be a #1 guy. That's Lee Evans.

    The whole point is to get Lee Evans another 10-15 shots downfield, let alone more touches, correct ? That equals points in my world.

    We basically ignored our TE in 85-90 % of our games over the last few years. We're drafting one this April and will probably throw more to the TE. Even the Courtey Anderson, Tayo Johnson signings showed the Bills wanted more catches from that position. Royal could be on thin ice. The Safety must play closer to the LOS, if we actually show the TE will get some looks.

    Lynch should see more swing passes. That pulls the safety up closer to the LOS.

    The #3 slot position (Parrish/Reed) will still see it's share of catches.

    Our Rookie WR ideally will be a good pattern runner who can catch the 6-12 yard pass and move the chains. It would be nice if he had some red zone ability,size and speed. He doesn't need to have a big stats year in 2008 but deliver when thrown to.

    Bryant Johnsons average season over 5 years is 42 catches for 535 yards. D. J. Hackett has 1,394 total yards in 4 years. Yet they were seen as the answers to our #2 WR need and would have produced 800 + yards, caught key passes and several TD's, without question? Riiiiiiiiiiight. Talk about a leap of faith. This FA WR class stunk to high heaven. It was full of #3 WR's who were drafted/paid to be #1 or #2 WR's. They failed. So on to the draft.

    We may differ where one is selected. I won't go into cardiac arrest if one isn't selected in Round 1, since I know of many good hands WR's not named Malcolm Kelly or Limas Sweed. If the Bills like them, that's fine but Evans is still here for at least 2 more years so we don't need the next Big Thing right now.

    I'll be fine with whoever the Bills select but that Rookie is just one part of the formula to improve the pass offense and get Evans more touches, along with the TE, Lynch, #3 WR and maybe some actual playcalling by the Turk, unlike Fairchild.

    Keep it in perspective.
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  • ddaryl
    Everything I post is sexual inuendo
    • Jan 2005
    • 10714

    #2
    Re: A Drafted #2 WR CAN Be A Factor Right Away

    Originally posted by Night Train
    We may differ where one is selected. I won't go into cardiac arrest if one isn't selected in Round 1, since I know of many good hands WR's not named Malcolm Kelly or Limas Sweed. If the Bills like them, that's fine but Evans is still here for at least 2 more years so we don't need the next Big Thing right now.

    From the buzz, and some of the draft ratings I've seen on WR.. there isn't much seperating the top 5 or 6 WR's in the draft.

    Which is why I am hoping for a trade down situation, and a parlay of picks to play with. None of the WR's are necesssarily #11 pick worthy, but moving back a grabbing the highest rated WR on the board seems like a logical move to make...

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    • justasportsfan
      Registered User
      • Jul 2002
      • 71629

      #3
      Re: A Drafted #2 WR CAN Be A Factor Right Away

      exactly. If Trent lives up to his potential and the playcalling is adequate, we could end up throwing successfully up the middle should teams try to double team Evans especially if our rbs are involved in the passing game.

      If all goes well. D's may have to pick their poison. Because of the qb situation to go with horrific playcalling, our wr's looked worse than they really were.
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      • Philagape
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        • Jul 2002
        • 19432

        #4
        Re: A Drafted #2 WR CAN Be A Factor Right Away

        While the Hackett numbers are grossly misleading because of his injuries (that was his problem, not the talent), I agree with the premise that a rookie can contribute immediately, even start ... IF the guy we get has the maturity and work ethic. That's the key. The physical tools will be a given, but the intangibles are what make and break a player.
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        • YardRat
          Well, lookie here...
          • Dec 2004
          • 86333

          #5
          Re: A Drafted #2 WR CAN Be A Factor Right Away

          Johnson, especially if we could have gotten him on a one-year deal, would've been nice filler and given the rookie some breathing room to work his way into the line-up during the season instead of expecting him to step right in and produce from Day 1.

          We're fortunate that we are looking for an impact WR in a year where the draft is apparently deep with possibilities, but we've limited our options by not upgrading in FA also. That's my only beef.
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          • John Doe
            Florida Man
            • Jul 2002
            • 2514

            #6
            Re: A Drafted #2 WR CAN Be A Factor Right Away

            Originally posted by Night Train
            Because he's NOT expected to be a #1 guy. That's Lee Evans.

            The whole point is to get Lee Evans another 10-15 shots downfield, let alone more touches, correct ? That equals points in my world.

            We basically ignored our TE in 85-90 % of our games over the last few years. We're drafting one this April and will probably throw more to the TE. Even the Courtey Anderson, Tayo Johnson signings showed the Bills wanted more catches from that position. Royal could be on thin ice. The Safety must play closer to the LOS, if we actually show the TE will get some looks.

            Lynch should see more swing passes. That pulls the safety up closer to the LOS.

            The #3 slot position (Parrish/Reed) will still see it's share of catches.

            Our Rookie WR ideally will be a good pattern runner who can catch the 6-12 yard pass and move the chains. It would be nice if he had some red zone ability,size and speed. He doesn't need to have a big stats year in 2008 but deliver when thrown to.

            Bryant Johnsons average season over 5 years is 42 catches for 535 yards. D. J. Hackett has 1,394 total yards in 4 years. Yet they were seen as the answers to our #2 WR need and would have produced 800 + yards, caught key passes and several TD's, without question? Riiiiiiiiiiight. Talk about a leap of faith. This FA WR class stunk to high heaven. It was full of #3 WR's who were drafted/paid to be #1 or #2 WR's. They failed. So on to the draft.

            We may differ where one is selected. I won't go into cardiac arrest if one isn't selected in Round 1, since I know of many good hands WR's not named Malcolm Kelly or Limas Sweed. If the Bills like them, that's fine but Evans is still here for at least 2 more years so we don't need the next Big Thing right now.

            I'll be fine with whoever the Bills select but that Rookie is just one part of the formula to improve the pass offense and get Evans more touches, along with the TE, Lynch, #3 WR and maybe some actual playcalling by the Turk, unlike Fairchild.

            Keep it in perspective.
            The Bills have certainly not been reluctant to play rookies - at any position.

            It would not surprise me if they spend 2 high draft picks on wide-outs.

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            • DrGraves
              Registered User
              • Mar 2008
              • 2693

              #7
              Re: A Drafted #2 WR CAN Be A Factor Right Away

              Limas Sweed needs to be our man, hes huge. just imagine him going up to get the ball and going across the middle... he's going to draw so much attention of the safeties and lee will be able to get 1v1's all day long. (and I like lee 1v1 everytime against anyone)

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              • jamze132
                Don’t hate…
                • Jun 2003
                • 29426

                #8
                Re: A Drafted #2 WR CAN Be A Factor Right Away

                I have no problem at all entering the season with a rookie opposite of Evans. I am hoping that is the case.

                Lynch was arguably the 2nd best back taken in the draft last year. If we can draft a WR who is arguably the best WR in the draft, than I wuld say we have a pretty good core to build upon.

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                • evol4276
                  Registered User
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 1333

                  #9
                  Re: A Drafted #2 WR CAN Be A Factor Right Away

                  as long as he's big and can run good routes and can catch, i have no problem starting a rokkie at 2. im actually hoping for it. im sick of having the same old ho-hum wr's every year, minus evans. and dont get me wrong i love roscoe, but we've needed a big guy for years. now is the time to address that, and this seems like the perfect time to do so in draft since there are a lot of big and talented wr's in this draft.

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                  • Night Train
                    Retired - On Several Levels
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 33117

                    #10
                    Re: A Drafted #2 WR CAN Be A Factor Right Away

                    Originally posted by Philagape
                    While the Hackett numbers are grossly misleading because of his injuries
                    Constant injuries aren't misleading. That's why the Bills never considered him.
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                    • Ickybaluky
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 8884

                      #11
                      Re: A Drafted #2 WR CAN Be A Factor Right Away

                      However, rookie WR tend to take time to adjust to the NFL. You bring in a veteran, he can provide improved production and give the rookie time to adjust and develop.

                      To illustrate the point, Josh Reed was the Bills 2nd leading receiver last year with 51 catches for 578 yards.

                      In the 2007 draft, there were 35 WR drafted.

                      1 had more catches than Reed last year, Dwayne Bowe (70).

                      2 had more yards last year than Reed, Dwayne Bowe (995) and James Jones (676).


                      In the 2006 draft, there were 30 WR drafted.

                      1 had more catches as a rookie than Reed last year, Marques Colston (70).

                      2 had more yards as a rookie than Reed last year, Marques Colson (1038) and Greg Jennings (632).


                      Rookie WR tend to need time to adjust. A veteran gives a chance at improved production while the rookie develops. It is not an either/or.

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                      • Oaf
                        Do you read what you write?
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 6151

                        #12
                        Re: A Drafted #2 WR CAN Be A Factor Right Away

                        What WR in this draft is MOST like Andre Reed? Because that is exactly what we need opposite Evans.

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                        • DrGraves
                          Registered User
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 2693

                          #13
                          Re: A Drafted #2 WR CAN Be A Factor Right Away

                          Originally posted by Oaf
                          What WR in this draft is MOST like Andre Reed? Because that is exactly what we need opposite Evans.

                          or just draft eric moulds again

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                          • Night Train
                            Retired - On Several Levels
                            • Jul 2005
                            • 33117

                            #14
                            Re: A Drafted #2 WR CAN Be A Factor Right Away

                            Originally posted by NE39
                            However, rookie WR tend to take time to adjust to the NFL.
                            Not arguing that point at all. We're all aware of the stats.

                            It's the expected improvement in an offensive gameplan that includes calling passes to the TE & more swing passes to the RB. This in addition to an actual talent at the #2 WR position not names Peerless Price, which equaled basically nothing from the #2.

                            A veteran bobbler like Johnson or All-Whirlpool D.J. Hackett wasn't the answer.
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                            • PECKERWOOD
                              Defies all logic
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 13170

                              #15
                              Re: A Drafted #2 WR CAN Be A Factor Right Away

                              Actually Evans has an option to void the final year of his contract, he will walk next season and test FA. ( Ofcourse unless they franchise him.. )

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