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yordad
03-23-2008, 07:33 AM
"There are numerous other examples of the disparity between attendance and emphasis among certain organizations. One player who spent offseasons in both New England and Buffalo said, "The Patriots offseason program is just part of the deal of being on that team and every veteran is there. Tom Brady is there. Richard Seymour is there. The only guys that were really up there in Buffalo in the offseason were the young guys trying to make the team. Their best players were nowhere to be found. That was one huge difference between those two organizations and I think it really sets the tone about what they are all about.""


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/ross_tucker/03/18/offseason.programs/index.html

YardRat
03-23-2008, 07:35 AM
Says as much about the individual players as it does about the organization.

madness
03-23-2008, 09:55 AM
That's not even half as disturbing as this...



Other strength coaches, like the Bears' Rusty Jones, place a premium on injury prevention, thus heavily emphasizing stretching, nutrition and body composition. This often enables players to feel their best and prepares them for the pounding their body will have to endure. Any NFL player will tell you they would rather feel completely healthy than make any type of strength gains as they head into training camp. Jones' presence and reputation around the league offers the Bears a leg-up as free agents make their decisions.


How many injuries did we have last year? Thanks for firing one of the best strength coaches in the NFL just so you could bring aboard your friend, Mularkey, you *****.

Jan Reimers
03-23-2008, 10:17 AM
While I don't think too many of our injuries last year were strength and conditioning related, I DO know we'd be much better off if Rusty Jones were still here.

gr8slayer
03-23-2008, 10:18 AM
Just goes to show you that our organization isn't serious about winning. I'd like to know where the **** Trent Montana is, that dick head has more to prove than anyone and should be here every day and every night.

Jan Reimers
03-23-2008, 12:01 PM
"There are numerous other examples of the disparity between attendance and emphasis among certain organizations. One player who spent offseasons in both New England and Buffalo said, "The Patriots offseason program is just part of the deal of being on that team and every veteran is there. Tom Brady is there. Richard Seymour is there. The only guys that were really up there in Buffalo in the offseason were the young guys trying to make the team. Their best players were nowhere to be found. That was one huge difference between those two organizations and I think it really sets the tone about what they are all about.""


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/ross_tucker/03/18/offseason.programs/index.html
I hate to say it, but this article presents one of the reasons why Belichick wins, and others do not. Unfortunately, our coaches over the past several years have been in the "others" category.

theanswer74
03-23-2008, 01:22 PM
That's not even half as disturbing as this...



How many injuries did we have last year? Thanks for firing one of the best strength coaches in the NFL just so you could bring aboard your friend, Mularkey, you *****.

The Bears had 9-10 players on IR also. A lot of their star players got hurt.

Also, John Allaire was brought in by Rusty Jones.

bleve
03-23-2008, 01:29 PM
Tucker played back in 2003-2004 with the Bills.

Different regime now, I think all our guys were at the OTA's last year?

theanswer74
03-23-2008, 01:54 PM
Tucker played back in 2003-2004 with the Bills.

Different regime now, I think all our guys were at the OTA's last year?

We really dont have any stars right now. We have a bunch of talented players trying to make a name for themselves. Spikes, Fletcher, Clements, Vincent, Moulds, Adams, and Milloy were big name players already established in the NFL.

Jeff1220
03-23-2008, 02:58 PM
UNfortunately, this probably has as much to do with the difference between the desirability of living in a city like Boston and living in a city like Buffalo as much as any other factor. I'm not trying to cut down Buffalo, but the reality is that most millionaires prefer to spend as much time in their hometowns or warm weather as possible. I know Boston is cold too, but (as much as I hate the place) it is a huge city with a lot of going on most of the time. I'd imagine that many star players stay out of GB during the offseason for the same reasons.

John Doe
03-23-2008, 03:33 PM
Tucker played back in 2003-2004 with the Bills.

Different regime now, I think all our guys were at the OTA's last year?

It sounds to me like he is talking about the better part of the off-season and not just the "optional" organized team activities.

The guys that are reportedly working out on their own a One Bills Drive are listed in the following article:

http://buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=5935



It may be hard for some to believe, but the preparations for the 2008 season begin in earnest a week from today as the Bills will open their offseason conditioning program at that time. Though the workouts are voluntary they've been very heavily attended the past couple of seasons under head coach Dick Jauronhttp://buffalobills.com/images/relatedicon.gif (http://buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=5935#).

"We've had good attendance," said Bills strength and conditioning coordinator J.T. Allaire. "I'd say we usually have somewhere around 50 guys showing up consistently every week. Knowing that it's voluntary that's a great thing for our program."

A handful of players have already been working out on their own accord at One Bills Drive. Brad Butlerhttp://buffalobills.com/images/relatedicon.gif (http://buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=5935#), Jon Cortohttp://buffalobills.com/images/relatedicon.gif (http://buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=5935#), Chris Kelsayhttp://buffalobills.com/images/relatedicon.gif (http://buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=5935#), Paul Poslusznyhttp://buffalobills.com/images/relatedicon.gif (http://buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=5935#), Robert Royalhttp://buffalobills.com/images/relatedicon.gif (http://buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=5935#) and Ashton Youbotyhttp://buffalobills.com/images/relatedicon.gif (http://buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=5935#) have been some of the more frequent attendees.
At this day in age the players have an understanding of the importance this program holds.


Its good to see guys like Butler and Youboty wanting to get in optimal shape. You can expect a guy like Posluszny to be there - he's going to be a real leader. Robert Royal and Chris Kelsay are known to be exceptionally hard workers and were probably the locker-room leaders of the team last year.

colin
03-24-2008, 07:03 AM
i think our teams lack of heart was bad before, and i was a bit worried we still had that problem when we layed down for new england.

i think (and hope) at this point we were just an over matched beat up team with an inept quarterback giving games away and now we are hardened by the experience.

The Answer
03-24-2008, 12:17 PM
Just goes to show you that our organization isn't serious about winning. I'd like to know where the **** Trent Montana is, that dick head has more to prove than anyone and should be here every day and every night.

Who cares where Studwards is - in years past Losman has spent the entire offseason studying playbooks and working out - it really did him a lot of good didn't it?

~The Answer