I had an idea

[The King]

How about ZB rewards for certain BZ milestones?

Zone Awards would get you some Zb's

Post achievements would also get you some
1,000
5,000
10,000
15,000
20,000

What do you guys think?

[LtBillsFan66]

Outstanding idea.

Add in rewards for # of thanks or pos reps.

[Dude]

:up:

[hydro]

How could you not vote for this guy? Huh?

He is always thinking for the good of the Zone.

[DraftBoy]

So for spending countless hours posting we are going to reward them with ZB's which they already accrue through posting and having responses?

[Dude]

Yes!

[LtBillsFan66]

So for spending countless hours posting we are going to reward them with ZB's which they already accrue through posting and having responses?

Why the negative overtone? If they are posting more, they are contributing to the success of the Zone community.

I'm not sure why you want to discourage members contributing more to the Zone family. :down:

[Dude]

Why do you hate America, DB?

[Dr. Lecter]

What if this idea encourages DraftBoy to post even more though?

[DraftBoy]

Why the negative overtone? If they are posting more, they are contributing to the success of the Zone community.

I'm not sure why you want to discourage members contributing more to the Zone family. :down:

Negative overtone? Im not sure I quite understand what your insinuating about me. I was simply pointing out to MBB that while his idea has merit he may or may not be aware of how the current ZB system works since he does not have the experience with the current inner workings of the Zone like I do. Im simply trying to help him out, why would you assume Im being negative? You guys really need to relax, its just a game you know, arent you having fun yet?

[RockStar36]

What if this idea encourages DraftBoy to post even more though?

:ill:

[Skooby]

So for spending countless hours posting we are going to reward them with ZB's which they already accrue through posting and having responses?

We might as well give 24% APR for all banked ZB's as well, maybe even if you bank them at the last second on the last day of the month you can get 2% worth of the whole previous months interest.

[DraftBoy]

Why do you hate America, DB?

Which America?

[DraftBoy]

What if this idea encourages DraftBoy to post even more though?

Why do hate me? :sad:

[LtBillsFan66]

I'm dead serious. We have a mod and a key member of the LA Playa campaign using a defamatory and highly pompous term like "spending countless hours posting." Bedard for sure never alienates the scores of contributors who value their posts.

[Dr. Lecter]

You have never bought me a beer.

[Dude]

Negative overtone? Im not sure I quite understand what your insinuating about me. I was simply pointing out to MBB that while his idea has merit he may or may not be aware of how the current ZB system works since he does not have the experience with the current inner workings of the Zone like I do. Im simply trying to help him out, why would you assume Im being negative? You guys really need to relax, its just a game you know, arent you having fun yet?I have much more intimate experience working with the software and I think it's a great idea. The ZB system doesn't reward milestones.

[DraftBoy]

I have much more intimate experience working with the software and I think it's a great idea. The ZB system doesn't reward milestones.

But it does reward for each post and to the author of a thread for each reply, does it not? Also what total worth does it give you? Most things like titles and avatars are changed by admins or mods if asked for, is it being suggested that we stop giving favors to posters who ask for them now? I dont see ZB's as a huge incentive to post more.

[DraftBoy]

You have never bought me a beer.

You've never come to Atlanta

[LtBillsFan66]

Negative overtone? Im not sure I quite understand what your insinuating about me. I was simply pointing out to MBB that while his idea has merit he may or may not be aware of how the current ZB system works since he does not have the experience with the current inner workings of the Zone like I do. Im simply trying to help him out, why would you assume Im being negative? You guys really need to relax, its just a game you know, arent you having fun yet?

Part of me wants to explode in anger and reply to this nonsense, and part of me would rather see you dig yourself a deeper grave.

[RockStar36]

But it does reward for each post and to the author of a thread for each reply, does it not? Also what total worth does it give you? Most things like titles and avatars are changed by admins or mods if asked for, is it being suggested that we stop giving favors to posters who ask for them now? I dont see ZB's as a huge incentive to post more.

I've never been a big fan of just changing things for people at request. It defeats the whole purpose of ZB's. ZB's are fun. I like betting.

[DraftBoy]

I'm dead serious. We have a mod and a key member of the LA Playa campaign using a defamatory and highly pompous term like "spending countless hours posting." Bedard for sure never alienates the scores of contributors who value their posts.

I still dont understand your accusation against me, as I said Im not sure and still dont know if Bedard was aware of how the ZB system currently works. I simply pointed that out. What exactly are you alleging?

[LtBillsFan66]

I still dont understand your accusation against me, as I said Im not sure and still dont know if Bedard was aware of how the ZB system currently works. I simply pointed that out. What exactly are you alleging?

Saying "spending countless hours posting" reeks of arrogance.

[Skooby]

You have never bought me a beer.

You so sure? Remember that real ugly blonde that bought you one a few months back.....That wasn't a girl.

[DraftBoy]

I've never been a big fan of just changing things for people at request. It defeats the whole purpose of ZB's. ZB's are fun. I like betting.

I do too, but what purpose do they serve that we can use to further site? I mean changing things just to change them is one thing, but this about bettering the zone not just adding news things for the heck of it. I mean personally Im looking for concrete ideas that address real changes not small stuff like this. That's all Im saying unless this is a small piece of a bigger plan. Bedard is this a small piece of a bigger plan?

[Dude]

DB, when did you become a candidate?

[DraftBoy]

Saying "spending countless hours posting" reeks of arrogance.

Im sorry thats your interpretation of it, but a lot of people do spend hours on the site reading and writing and having a good time. I dont think its arrogant to point that out to those running for office. I guess you do, but to each his own I suppose.

[DraftBoy]

DB, when did you become a candidate?

Well I was first elected to office in 2004 if thats what your asking.

[Dude]

Well I was first elected to office in 2004 if thats what your asking.Yes, of course. Because that's relevant to this discussion.

[LtBillsFan66]

I do too, but what purpose do they serve that we can use to further site? I mean changing things just to change them is one thing, but this about bettering the zone not just adding news things for the heck of it. I mean personally Im looking for concrete ideas that address real changes not small stuff like this. That's all Im saying unless this is a small piece of a bigger plan. Bedard is this a small piece of a bigger plan?

What changes does your team have in store?

Also, since many of you are mods/admins, how come no "concrete ideas that address real changes" have happened in a long time?

[DraftBoy]

Yes, of course. Because that's relevant to this discussion.

You asked when I became a candidate, my first year of being a candidate was 2004, you know I work in politics I cant distinguish which election and in what year you are speaking of. If you mean this one then simply state it, so its clear to all parties.

[RockStar36]

Well I was first elected to office in 2004 if thats what your asking.

I really wish we could go a day without hearing about that. It means absolutely nothing to this fake internet election.

[Dude]

You asked when I became a candidate, my first year of being a candidate was 2004, you know I work in politics I cant distinguish which election and in what year you are speaking of. If you mean this one then simply state it, so its clear to all parties.Your constant spin is getting boring.

Where is the actual candidate?

[DraftBoy]

I really wish we could go a day without hearing about that. It means absolutely nothing to this fake internet election.

That's actually the first Ive ever mentioned in this thread that I was a previously elected official. Other times have been about my work as a lobbyist or governmental affairs specialist. It also has a lot to do with this internet election and this message board on a daily basis.

[DraftBoy]

Your constant spin is getting boring.

Where is the actual candidate?

Its not my job to entertain you, Im sorry if I bore you I guess.

[Dude]

So, back to MBB's great idea for improving the Zone ...

[hydro]

How about new games in the arcade? :idunno:

[LtBillsFan66]

Your constant spin is getting boring.

Where is the actual candidate?

I agree. He wants "real changes" while his candidate offered none and his team has the authority to institute them, but has failed to ever deliver any.

[DraftBoy]

I agree. He wants "real changes" while his candidate offered none and his team has the authority to institute them, but has failed to ever deliver any.

We have no more authority than any other admin or mod. Every idea is put up to the entire staff nobody hold a monopoly on the power. If your going to blame any staff members you have to blame all.

[RockStar36]

That's actually the first Ive ever mentioned in this thread that I was a previously elected official. Other times have been about my work as a lobbyist or governmental affairs specialist. It also has a lot to do with this internet election and this message board on a daily basis.

It honestly means nothing when it comes to the message board. Well, almost nothing. Real politics give me a headache and you're doing a pretty good job of that.

[LtBillsFan66]

We have no more authority than any other admin or mod. Every idea is put up to the entire staff nobody hold a monopoly on the power. If your going to blame any staff members you have to blame all.

What's with throwing the term "blame" around so casually?

Do NOT put words in my figurative mouth.

My point is we need a creative and innovating as well as well respected leader. Bedard passes all of those with flying colors.

[BlackMetalNinja]

:sigh: After reading this thread, it's obvious... The Terrorists have already won!

[DraftBoy]

What's with throwing the term "blame" around so casually?

Do NOT put words in my figurative mouth.

My point is we need a creative and innovating as well as well respected leader. Bedard passes all of those with flying colors.

I got the creative part but innovative? Examples? Also he is quite respected, but under what leadership role?

[DraftBoy]

:sigh: After reading this thread, it's obvious... The Terrorists have already won!

That's a debate for the spin zone, but you may be on to something there :up:

You should fork it to over there!

[BlackMetalNinja]

That's a debate for the spin zone, but you may be on to something there :up:

You should fork it to over there!

I've seen 10x as much spin in this forum as I have over there in the past 2 weeks.

[LtBillsFan66]

I got the creative part but innovative? Examples? Also he is quite respected, but under what leadership role?

Again, pompous, arrogant, and incendiary.

The board is rampant with examples of Bedard's creativeness and inventiveness.

Under what leadership role? WTF are you talking about? Or better yet, pose that question to your candidate.

[LtBillsFan66]

I've seen 10x as much spin in this forum as I have over there in the past 2 weeks.

What's funny... Draftboy's spin is more of a tailspin.

[DraftBoy]

I've seen 10x as much spin in this forum as I have over there in the past 2 weeks.


Really? You should go there more often then, there is a great thread about the 42 Democrats who vowed to do a drawback in Iraq if elected that has some good stuff, any of the Obama-Pastor Wright stuff is great to read and take notes from, dont miss the Condi Rice thread about US birth defects in relation to race from today. Really some great stuff, you are missing out my man.

[The King]

Draftboy,

You wanted someone to add a little excitement in here today..... you're welcome.

Also its kind of familiar http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=145705

[Skooby]

DB, too many against you here talking about nothing.

[DraftBoy]

DB, too many against you here talking about nothing.

I know man, I know

:sadwalk:

[LtBillsFan66]

Draftboy,

You wanted someone to add a little excitement in here today..... you're welcome.

Also its kind of familiar http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=145705

THE SMOKING GUN!

:dance:

[honey]

Well, I think it's a pretty good idea, actually. ZBs seem to make people feel good and they participate more in the betting arena, etc. And you earn what? one or two ZBs for posting or starting a thread? :idunno: I don't keep track. But, IMO, it's a good idea. :D

[LtBillsFan66]

Draftboy,

You wanted someone to add a little excitement in here today..... you're welcome.

Also its kind of familiar http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=145705

Here's another smoking gun:
http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=149549

[The King]

THE SMOKING GUN!

:dance:

certainly quieted him down didnt it?

[LtBillsFan66]

certainly quieted him down didnt it?

That's an understatement.

[Gunzlingr]

I don't understand why everyone is down on MBB's ideas. At least he has them. I haven't heard 1 idea form Playa other than him examining the books and moving BoB and Hit it or Quit it to the No-TOS zone because they are offensive to women. :rolleyes:

I wonder what kind of president he would make when everything has to go through his staff before it hits the public. Especially when half of his staff are admins now.

[honey]

I don't understand why everyone is down on MBB's ideas. At least he has them. I haven't heard 1 idea form Playa other than him examining the books and moving BoB and Hit it or Quit it to the No-TOS zone because they are offensive to women. :rolleyes:

I wonder what kind of president he would make when everything has to go through his staff before it hits the public. Especially when half of his staff are admins now.

Hey! I supported his idea. I like it! :up:

[RockStar36]

Here's another smoking gun:
http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=149549

Funny how that works.

But Playa will make this place better.

Yet his own staff looks towards MBB to get this place jumpin.

[The King]

I appreciate all the support guys... I just hope the message is getting out to the voters who dont visit this forum.

[Gunzlingr]

Hey! I supported his idea. I like it! :up:

:hi5:

[OpIv37]

I'm dead serious. We have a mod and a key member of the LA Playa campaign using a defamatory and highly pompous term like "spending countless hours posting." Bedard for sure never alienates the scores of contributors who value their posts.

that's only because Bedard suggested giving zonebucks for actions that already result in ZB's. People with high post count are already rewarded with ZB's from their post and usually with reputation power as well.

Seems to me that Bedard is in favor of a Zone income gap- while that's a great way to empower people who contribute, it's also intimidating to potential new posters.

[The King]

Seems to me that Bedard is in favor of a Zone income gap- while that's a great way to empower people who contribute, it's also intimidating to potential new posters.

Fair enough. However I do give out ZB's to the winners of contests and stuff all the time.

I remember when I first started posting my only goal was to be more popular than Rob Johnson!

[OpIv37]

:sigh: After reading this thread, it's obvious... The Terrorists have already won!

who are you accusing of being terrorists? I see BF1 in here attacking people and accusing them of spinning, then you come in here and accuse people of being terrorists, or at least letting terrorists win? That seems like a baseless Rovian scare tactic.

I don't know- Bedard reached out to me (nice "all politics is local" touch- read "Hardball" by Chris Matthews) and I was leaning towards him for a while, but his statements and what his supporters are doing is a definite put-off.

[OpIv37]

Fair enough. However I do give out ZB's to the winners of contests and stuff all the time.

I remember when I first started posting my only goal was to be more popular than Rob Johnson!

Now, that's fair because it's something different, and in your contests, existing zoners and noobs have the same opportunity to win. But not all big contributors are as altruistic with their ZB's/rep so I don't really see how handing out additional quantities of the same reward will help the board.

[The King]

I don't know- Bedard reached out to me (nice "all politics is local" touch- read "Hardball" by Chris Matthews) and I was leaning towards him for a while, but his statements and what his supporters are doing is a definite put-off.

I sent out at least 30 personal messages. Trying to be creative and pro me got tough after a while. But you know my deal Op. Its cool either way.

[OpIv37]

I sent out at least 30 personal messages. Trying to be creative and pro me got tough after a while. But you know my deal Op. Its cool either way.

that Hardball thing was intended as a compliment- he tells a story about Tip O'Neil's first election where his next door neighbor that he had known for years didn't vote for him because he never directly asked her to. Reaching out to people instead of counting on their support is a good retail approach to politics.

And on second thought, it isn't fair to you to hold BMN's actions against you- every politician has crazy, overzealous supporters through no fault of their own.

But, I need to think long and hard about your platform and compare it to the other ones before making a final decision... at the moment though, I applaud your efforts but I'm not convinced.

[OpIv37]

MBB, is BMN on your staff?

He's a loose cannon with some of his comments- a sign of good leadership is an ability to control his underlings.... if you don't get him under control, well, I think the implication is clear.

[The King]

MBB, is BMN on your staff?

He's a loose cannon with some of his comments- a sign of good leadership is an ability to control his underlings.... if you don't get him under control, well, I think the implication is clear.

BMN is a passionate guy, no doubt. Whether people like him as a poster or not he cares about the future of the Zone. Thats why he is on my staff.

[RockStar36]

MBB, is BMN on your staff?

He's a loose cannon with some of his comments- a sign of good leadership is an ability to control his underlings.... if you don't get him under control, well, I think the implication is clear.

Have you read some of DraftBoy's stuff?

Or better yet...have you read anything from NBF or Playa?

I didn't think so. How can they be a good president and vice president when they are never around.

Sorry Op. You know Bedard does so much for this site to make it better and did those things before this whole deal was started. That speaks volumes.

[Devin]

They are around plenty they just dont feel the need to run around posting "Hey im running" or threads of the like.

Besides you are gathering us plenty of supporters :up:

[RockStar36]

They are around plenty they just dont feel the need to run around posting "Hey im running" or threads of the like.

Besides you are gathering us plenty of supporters :up:

Or not posting in the threads because they are to busy PMing anyone they can think of to vote. You might as well just change it to vote for Devin/DraftBoy now. Don't even waste the time giving Playa the credit.

[Devin]

lol. Thanks dude!

[DraftBoy]

Have you read some of DraftBoy's stuff?

Or better yet...have you read anything from NBF or Playa?

I didn't think so. How can they be a good president and vice president when they are never around.

Sorry Op. You know Bedard does so much for this site to make it better and did those things before this whole deal was started. That speaks volumes.


If you have an issue with some of my posts why dont you just say author it all for us rather than jumping from thread to thread taking stabs at me. If you dont understand the intent of my posts or their purpose thats an entirely different matter all together. But please let us all know which way it is either here or you can even send me a PM if you wish.

[DraftBoy]

Or not posting in the threads because they are to busy PMing anyone they can think of to vote. You might as well just change it to vote for Devin/DraftBoy now. Don't even waste the time giving Playa the credit.

Im flattered!

[BlackMetalNinja]

who are you accusing of being terrorists? I see BF1 in here attacking people and accusing them of spinning, then you come in here and accuse people of being terrorists, or at least letting terrorists win? That seems like a baseless Rovian scare tactic.

I don't know- Bedard reached out to me (nice "all politics is local" touch- read "Hardball" by Chris Matthews) and I was leaning towards him for a while, but his statements and what his supporters are doing is a definite put-off.

You do understand the terrorist thing was a complete and total joke right???? Like I'm actually going to call somebody on this board a terrorist...

[shelby]

wow....all i have to say is, wow....

[Mr. Pink]

Question.

How did this help the zone?

I have tons of ZBs, anyone can get them via betting with Fat Tony. But what do ZBs really even do? Not much.

You can get the avatar fairy to change your avatar freely.

You can ask others for ZBs to get team logo's.

Etc, etc, etc...

So I ask, how does this help or improve the Zone?

[shelby]

Perhaps we need new Zone Store options.

Suggestions are always welcome:D

[BlackMetalNinja]

Question.

How did this help the zone?

I have tons of ZBs, anyone can get them via betting with Fat Tony. But what do ZBs really even do? Not much.

You can get the avatar fairy to change your avatar freely.

You can ask others for ZBs to get team logo's.

Etc, etc, etc...

So I ask, how does this help or improve the Zone?

I'm not going to answer on behalf of Bedard, I'll let him make his own comments.

But I do have a question of my own, which doesn't really relate to this race at all for the most part.

Why are people always so quick to shoot down the suggestions of others, yet provide none of their own?

[hydro]

I mentioned it before but it was overlooked. Is it possible to bring in new BZ arcade games?

[Mr. Pink]

I'm not going to answer on behalf of Bedard, I'll let him make his own comments.

But I do have a question of my own, which doesn't really relate to this race at all for the most part.

Why are people always so quick to shoot down the suggestions of others, yet provide none of their own?

I am not running, therefore I do not need to have my own suggestions to try and win a position that holds as much bearing as "Queen of England."

This is the suggestion your campaign set forth, hence why I ask how this does anything to improve the quality of the Zone.

[The King]

I mentioned it before but it was overlooked. Is it possible to bring in new BZ arcade games?

I believe I mentioned that in one of my debate answers as well. Keeping the arcade fresh and current.

[hydro]

I believe I mentioned that in one of my debate answers as well. Keeping the arcade fresh and current.

Oh I missed that. Very good! :bf1:

[jamze132]

So for spending countless hours posting we are going to reward them with ZB's which they already accrue through posting and having responses?
I actually like the idea. I doubt I will ever reach some of the milestones that others will, I still like the idea. It's all in good fun.