The "pushed out of bounds" rule allowing a catch may go bye-bye

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  • Coach Sal
    Registered User
    • Aug 2006
    • 2475

    The "pushed out of bounds" rule allowing a catch may go bye-bye

    Other rules changes up for vote next week include:

    --Revamping the "force-out" definition for a wide receiver not getting both feet inbounds when making a sideline catch.

    "The rule says a receiver can't be carried or pushed out of bounds by an opponent," McKay said. "We would delete 'pushed'...There are so many levels of judgment that go into a force-out call. This would be much more consistent. Either you get your feet down or not."
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  • Michael82
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 82328

    #2
    Re: The "pushed out of bounds" rule allowing a catch may go bye-bye

    Are they trying to bring the defense back into the game or something? Taking this rule away makes it so we never get to see those sweet sideline catches, because teams will just shove them out of bounds as fast as they can, before they get down.

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    • LtFinFan66
      Registered User
      • Mar 2005
      • 47199

      #3
      Re: The "pushed out of bounds" rule allowing a catch may go bye-bye

      Not really. When they make those sweet catches, the defender usually isn't close enough otherwise they would shove them anyway. They would not just let them catch it and get their feet down if there were a chance a judgment call would go in their favor

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      • Romes
        Registered User
        • Jul 2002
        • 5766

        #4
        Re: The "pushed out of bounds" rule allowing a catch may go bye-bye

        I would be for this change. The more judgement calls taken out of the game the better.

        Plus I think it will be good for the Bills and our shorter corners. A fade route could be defended by a timely shove instead of 5'9'' McGee trying to jump with a 6'3'' receiver.
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        • Dujek
          Hall of Fame Zoner
          • Jan 2008
          • 7806

          #5
          Re: The "pushed out of bounds" rule allowing a catch may go bye-bye

          Seems reasonable to me, you see so many variations in what various officials call with regards to the force-out rule that it makes sense to take the judgement element out of the call.

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          • BAM
            Registered User
            • Sep 2003
            • 33135

            #6
            Re: The "pushed out of bounds" rule allowing a catch may go bye-bye

            I'd be happy to see this rule go!

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            • TacklingDummy
              Unreachable Douche
              • Jul 2002
              • 71725

              #7
              Re: The "pushed out of bounds" rule allowing a catch may go bye-bye

              I like the rule the way it is.

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              • jamze132
                Don’t hate…
                • Jun 2003
                • 29410

                #8
                Re: The "pushed out of bounds" rule allowing a catch may go bye-bye

                With all of the technology nowadays, I would rather have as many judement calls as possible, deleted. Football doesn't have the tradition like baseball of judgement calls. The NFL should get every call correct as to not screw another team because of a referee's biased opinion.

                The NFL season is only 16 games long. 1 wrong "judgement" call can screw up a team's playoff hopes, especially toward the end of the season. On the other hand, baseball season is 162 games and in most circumstances, 1 bad call isn't really going to detroy everything. That last blurb was for those who are going to argue with me...

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                • TigerJ
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 22575

                  #9
                  Re: The "pushed out of bounds" rule allowing a catch may go bye-bye

                  Originally posted by Romes
                  I would be for this change. The more judgement calls taken out of the game the better.

                  Plus I think it will be good for the Bills and our shorter corners. A fade route could be defended by a timely shove instead of 5'9'' McGee trying to jump with a 6'3'' receiver.
                  I think that is the rationale for the rule change. Even the league is starting to figure out you can't trust the judgement of officials.
                  I've made up my mind. Don't confuse me with the facts.

                  I'm the most reasonable poster here. If you don't agree, I'll be forced to have a hissy fit.

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                  • don137
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 7720

                    #10
                    Re: The "pushed out of bounds" rule allowing a catch may go bye-bye

                    I think the Bills lost that heartbreaker to the Jaguars on opening day a couple years ago when the recived was "forced" out of bounds on 4th down at the end of the game and the Jaguars won as a result.

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                    • DraftBoy
                      Administrator
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 107443

                      #11
                      Re: The "pushed out of bounds" rule allowing a catch may go bye-bye

                      I agree with the majority here this would be a positive rule change
                      COMING SOON...
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                      We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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                      • Coach Sal
                        Registered User
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 2475

                        #12
                        Re: The "pushed out of bounds" rule allowing a catch may go bye-bye

                        Originally posted by don137
                        I think the Bills lost that heartbreaker to the Jaguars on opening day a couple years ago when the recived was "forced" out of bounds on 4th down at the end of the game and the Jaguars won as a result.
                        Yup:

                        4-7-BUF 7
                        (:04) B.Leftwich pass to E.Wilford for 7 yards, TOUCHDOWN. Caught in rear of end zone, right side. Review ruled receiver forced out of bounds after catch. Play Challenged by Review Assistant and Upheld.
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                        • Coach Sal
                          Registered User
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 2475

                          #13
                          Re: The "pushed out of bounds" rule allowing a catch may go bye-bye

                          I like this rule change, but I would go a step further. If they're going to give the defender the opportunity to push the receiver OB when he would have come down in bounds, they should also give the receiver the chance to get one foot down to make it legal.

                          I've advocated "1-foot-inbounds = catch" for a while now anyway. This would just make it even more reasonable. The college game gives us some amazing catches every weekend. Can you imagine the highlight reel stuff we'd see in the NFL if the rule were the same?
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                          • DraftBoy
                            Administrator
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 107443

                            #14
                            Re: The "pushed out of bounds" rule allowing a catch may go bye-bye

                            Originally posted by Coach Sal
                            I like this rule change, but I would go a step further. If they're going to give the defender the opportunity to push the receiver OB when he would have come down in bounds, they should also give the receiver the chance to get one foot down to make it legal.

                            I've advocated "1-foot-inbounds = catch" for a while now anyway. This would just make it even more reasonable. The college game gives us some amazing catches every weekend. Can you imagine the highlight reel stuff we'd see in the NFL if the rule were the same?
                            But the NFL is all about having more skill and progressing, who cares about highlight reel catches, personally I think being able to get two feet down is a hell of a lot more impressive then 1 foot. That being said I dont have any issue really with a change like this, just saying that two feet is much more impressive.
                            COMING SOON...
                            Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
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                            • X-Era
                              What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 27670

                              #15
                              Re: The "pushed out of bounds" rule allowing a catch may go bye-bye

                              Why dont they get on one of the biggest problems in the game... the damn spot of the foul pass interference.

                              Its so bad that QB's are throwing at the interference if they see it just to get the yards.

                              A flagarant foul, where a player tries to rip off the QB's head is only 15 yards. But a CB's arm on the WR can be 50 yards?

                              Thats ridiculous. Always has been. Make it a standard 15 yards and the players play the damn game.

                              Maybe as president, Playa and NBF can fix that one too...

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