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  • Michael82
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 82330
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    Maybe Eb is right, it's all Golisano's fault.....

    I was reading the Hockey News today and they had the GM rankings. Darcy Regier was ranked 15th, which isn't that surprising, but the blurb they wrote with it was pretty harsh.....

    15. Darcy Regier, Buffalo

    How can we rate Regier so highly when he has: a) failed to come to terms with his team’s three best players?; b) let two of them get away and got nothing in return?; c) traded his best defenseman while his team was fighting for a playoff spot?; d) dismantled one of the best scouting staffs in the league?; and, e) has presided over the Sabres as they’ve gone from Stanley Cup contender to barely middle-of-the-pack? Because he’s taking the bullet for an owner (Thomas Golisano) who refuses to spend money despite the fact the Sabres have essentially sold out every game the past two seasons and have gone on long, lucrative playoff runs. Regier is a good hockey man and it wouldn’t be a surprise to see him leave at the first opportunity.

    CAREER 390-299-120 (.556)
    CUPS 0
    PLAYOFFS 10-6 series record
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    http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/14786-.html
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  • RockStar36
    Dude's Little Ignorant Crony
    • Sep 2004
    • 24761
    #2
    Re: Maybe Eb is right, it's all Golisano's fault.....

    It is my understanding that the Sabres organization was in very bad financial shape with TG took over.

    Taking that into consideration, he needs to work at getting them out of the red, which is a process.

    I don't understand how he can considered cheap. He spends right up to the cap.

    Other teams seem more willing to spend a ton of money on a few players and cheap out the rest of the way. It looks like the Sabres are trying to evenly distribute the money and have a complete team.

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    • mchurchfie
      Registered User
      • Jul 2002
      • 13418
      #3
      Re: Maybe Eb is right, it's all Golisano's fault.....

      Originally posted by RockStar36
      It is my understanding that the Sabres organization was in very bad financial shape with TG took over.

      Taking that into consideration, he needs to work at getting them out of the red, which is a process.

      I don't understand how he can considered cheap. He spends right up to the cap.

      Other teams seem more willing to spend a ton of money on a few players and cheap out the rest of the way. It looks like the Sabres are trying to evenly distribute the money and have a complete team.
      Well, it isn't working for us and most of them are headed to the POs. How can you explain how Philly and the Rangers are able to have so many quality players and still be ok with the cap? Drury, JJ, Gomez, Mylander, Avery, etc. We conceiveably could have had Drury, Briere, and Campbell locked up for around $5 mill a year with a little foresight. I would gladly have dumped Max, Kotalik, and Kalinin for capspace and would have taken 5 number one draft choices for Vanek to build around them. TOTAL lack of foresight and vision on the WHOLE FO plus TG is a cheap bastard.
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      • RockStar36
        Dude's Little Ignorant Crony
        • Sep 2004
        • 24761
        #4
        Re: Maybe Eb is right, it's all Golisano's fault.....

        I still don't understand how TG is cheap. He can only spend what the cap allows.

        And when I took a look at the Rangers, they paid huge for the big names and rest of the team is very low. The Sabres just seem to spread it out more.

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        • RockStar36
          Dude's Little Ignorant Crony
          • Sep 2004
          • 24761
          #5
          Re: Maybe Eb is right, it's all Golisano's fault.....

          Actually they are pretty even. I noticed that Avery doesn't even crack 2mil, which for as much as I don't like him, seems like a bargain to me considering how much of a difference he makes in games.

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          • Dr. Lecter
            Zero for Zero!
            • Mar 2003
            • 67930
            #6
            Re: Maybe Eb is right, it's all Golisano's fault.....

            Originally posted by mchurchfie
            Well, it isn't working for us and most of them are headed to the POs. How can you explain how Philly and the Rangers are able to have so many quality players and still be ok with the cap? Drury, JJ, Gomez, Mylander, Avery, etc. We conceiveably could have had Drury, Briere, and Campbell locked up for around $5 mill a year with a little foresight. I would gladly have dumped Max, Kotalik, and Kalinin for capspace and would have taken 5 number one draft choices for Vanek to build around them. TOTAL lack of foresight and vision on the WHOLE FO plus TG is a cheap bastard.
            I don't understand how Darcy can sign guys if TG does not allow the deal. How is that his fault?
            Originally posted by mysticsoto
            Lecter is right in everything he said.

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            • Michael82
              Registered User
              • Jul 2002
              • 82330
              #7
              Re: Maybe Eb is right, it's all Golisano's fault.....

              Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
              I don't understand how Darcy can sign guys if TG does not allow the deal. How is that his fault?
              exactly. It's our favorite owner's fault....Tom Golisano. And the honeymoon is over, time for him to accept some blame and fire Larry Quinn.

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              • RockStar36
                Dude's Little Ignorant Crony
                • Sep 2004
                • 24761
                #8
                Re: Maybe Eb is right, it's all Golisano's fault.....

                I guess I'm slightly off.

                I'm reading that the cap is at 50.3 mil or close to it. Based on the numbers I found the Sabres are about 5 mil under the cap.

                The Flyers are 173,000 under
                The Rangers are over

                San Jose is 10mil under....which boggles my mind

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                • RockStar36
                  Dude's Little Ignorant Crony
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 24761
                  #9
                  Re: Maybe Eb is right, it's all Golisano's fault.....

                  Originally posted by Mikey82
                  exactly. It's our favorite owner's fault....Tom Golisano. And the honeymoon is over, time for him to accept some blame and fire Larry Quinn.
                  I'm all for firing Quinn but I'm not ready to hang TG yet. He saved hockey in Buffalo. Without him we wouldn't even be having this discussion. One year ago he was a hero. One bad season isn't enough to completely say he blew it.

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                  • Dr. Lecter
                    Zero for Zero!
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 67930
                    #10
                    Re: Maybe Eb is right, it's all Golisano's fault.....

                    Of course that article also mistakingly says Campbell was one of the 3 best players and the best D-man on the Sabres.
                    Originally posted by mysticsoto
                    Lecter is right in everything he said.

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                    • RockStar36
                      Dude's Little Ignorant Crony
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 24761
                      #11
                      Re: Maybe Eb is right, it's all Golisano's fault.....

                      Lots of people think Campbell was simply amazing. I didn't. I mean, he was good but he wasn't "great". This is just my opinion though.

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                      • Mitchy moo
                        Roways rooking ahread!
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 18380
                        #12
                        Re: Maybe Eb is right, it's all Golisano's fault.....

                        Originally posted by RockStar36
                        Lots of people think Campbell was simply amazing. I didn't. I mean, he was good but he wasn't "great". This is just my opinion though.
                        Well we have greatly sucked on defense when we needed it this season and it has shone through 2 times in the past week, giving up 2 goal leads late in the game.

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                        • Michael82
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 82330
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                          Re: Maybe Eb is right, it's all Golisano's fault.....

                          Originally posted by RockStar36
                          I'm all for firing Quinn but I'm not ready to hang TG yet. He saved hockey in Buffalo. Without him we wouldn't even be having this discussion. One year ago he was a hero. One bad season isn't enough to completely say he blew it.
                          Did you happen to see d?
                          dismantled one of the best scouting staffs in the league?
                          That right there will be the true factor. The reason why this team got as good as they are/were is because they had one of best scouting staffs, but a couple years ago they fired the top scouts and replaced it all with computer systems. That's the thing that will bite us in the ass, if we lose our ability to scout the young players and build from within, this team has no chance to compete against the Rangers, Devils, Canadiens, Senators, Flyers, and other top teams.

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                          • mchurchfie
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 13418
                            #14
                            Re: Maybe Eb is right, it's all Golisano's fault.....

                            With Campbell and Spacek gone our Powerplay is beyond embarrassing.
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                            • Michael82
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 82330
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                              Re: Maybe Eb is right, it's all Golisano's fault.....

                              Originally posted by mchurchfie
                              With Campbell and Spacek gone our Powerplay is beyond embarrassing.
                              the powerplay was one of Campbell's biggest attributes.
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