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  • tampabay25690
    Registered User
    • Feb 2004
    • 9670

    An Updated DRAFT

    Buffalo Bills: Mike Jenkins, CB, South Florida


    It's likely one of three things will happen with Buffalo's No. 11 selection:

    Trade Down: The Bills need a massive receiver like Limas Sweed or James Hardy to complement the lightning-quick Lee Evans. The problem is there aren't any wide outs worth taking in this spot. Buffalo should be able to swap selections with a team like Philadelphia and obtain the receiver of its choice.

    Defensive End: I considered Derrick Harvey at this juncture. From my offseason needs page: "The Bills could be in trouble at the defensive end position in 2008, as the guys who play across from Aaron Schobel - Chris Kelsay and Ryan Denney - both suffered serious injuries toward the end of the 2007 campaign and will consequently not be able to work out during the offseason. Buffalo needs to upgrade its pass rush anyway, as the team managed only 26 sacks." Kelsay and Denney are ahead of schedule, but they're both mediocre, and there isn't much behind Aaron Schobel.

    Cornerback: The Bills have major depth issues at defensive back in the wake of losing Kiwaukee Thomas, Jerametrius Butler, Jim Leonhard, Coy Wire and E.J. Underwood this offseason. Buffalo needs to knock off the Patriots, who have Randy Moss, Wes Welker and Ben Watson all catching passes from the NFL's single-season record holder for touchdowns.

    Once Mike Jenkins is ready, the Bills can slide Jabari Greer into the nickel slot, giving them one of the top secondaries in the NFL.

    2nd Round Pick: Buffalo Bills: Fred Davis, TE, USC
    The Bills need some sort of complementary possession receiver for Lee Evans. That can come in the form of a tight end. Fred Davis could go as high as No. 25, so this is yet another second-round steal in one of the deepest draft classes I've ever seen.

    3rd Round Pick: Buffalo Bills: Mike Pollak, C, Arizona State
    The Bills need help with their interior offensive front, and Mike Pollak is probably the best inside lineman in this draft class, save for Branden Albert.

    4th Round Pick: Buffalo Bills: Paul Hubbard, WR, Wisconsin
    If the Bills can't trade out of the No. 11 pick and consequently eschew drafting a complementary possession receiver for Lee Evans, they'll do that later on. Because this class is so deep, they can get a decent wide out in Round 4.

    4th Round Pick: Buffalo Bills: Jeremy Thompson, DE, Wake Forest
    The Bills don't really have anything behind Aaron Schobel at right end.

    5th Round Pick: Buffalo Bills: Owen Schmitt, FB, West Virginia
    The Bills could use an upgrade at fullback, and Owen Schmitt is a player their fans would fall in love with.

    NOT A BAD DRAFT that I saw. I WOULD be surprised if we waited that late to draft a WR. If this is how we drafted I don't think we would be that dissappointed........I just wanted to share this with you guys......SO now go ahead and bash it!!!!!!!

    I do like what he said about the #1 pick of ours....I really think the BILLS will try to trade out of the spot for more picks!!!!!!!
    GO Gators!!!!!!
    GO GATORS!!
  • Ultra Chimp 1
    All-Pro Zoner
    • Sep 2005
    • 2681

    #2
    Re: An Updated DRAFT

    If we take a CB in round one and miss out on Limas Sweed or James Hardy I'm going to puke.

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    • tampabay25690
      Registered User
      • Feb 2004
      • 9670

      #3
      Re: An Updated DRAFT

      Originally posted by Ultra Chimp 1
      If we take a CB in round one and miss out on Limas Sweed or James Hardy I'm going to puke.
      You never know what will happen...
      GO Gators!!!!!!
      GO GATORS!!

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      • Ultra Chimp 1
        All-Pro Zoner
        • Sep 2005
        • 2681

        #4
        Re: An Updated DRAFT

        Originally posted by tampabay25690
        You never know what will happen...
        I know what will happen if we take a CB. He will be shipped off without a franchise tag in 2009.

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        • Scumbag College
          Registered User
          • Oct 2002
          • 4949

          #5
          Re: An Updated DRAFT

          The Bills need a #2 WR in the worst way. Hubbard has great size and is a very good track athlete, but he's more of a developmental pick that needs probably a year or two to mature. I can't see the Bills waiting until the fourth round and draft a Center before a guy that can compete for the #2 receiver spot.
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          • tampabay25690
            Registered User
            • Feb 2004
            • 9670

            #6
            Re: An Updated DRAFT

            Originally posted by Scumbag College
            The Bills need a #2 WR in the worst way. Hubbard has great size and is a very good track athlete, but he's more of a developmental pick that needs probably a year or two to mature. I can't see the Bills waiting until the fourth round and draft a Center before a guy that can compete for the #2 receiver spot.
            I do agree with you 100% I can see the Bills drafting a WR in the 2nd and maybe even in a later round. I could see them drafting 2 WR this year.
            GO Gators!!!!!!
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            • Michael82
              Registered User
              • Jul 2002
              • 82328

              #7
              Re: An Updated DRAFT

              I don't like this draft! First of all, you now how I feel about a CB in the 1st round. It's a waste of a pick and not needed for this cover 2 d. Plus we are desperate for a WR, as that is the only main need we didn't fill in the offseason. Waiting until the 4th round will definitely NOT fill the biggest hole on our team. It's a bad idea. I do like two of the picks though....Fred Davis will be a stud at TE that we have been lacking for years. And Owen Schmitt gives us the true blocking FB that will plow thru for Marshawn Lynch....

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              • Michael82
                Registered User
                • Jul 2002
                • 82328

                #8
                Re: An Updated DRAFT

                Originally posted by Ultra Chimp 1
                If we take a CB in round one and miss out on Limas Sweed or James Hardy I'm going to puke.
                me too.

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                • tampabay25690
                  Registered User
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 9670

                  #9
                  Re: An Updated DRAFT

                  Originally posted by Mikey82
                  I don't like this draft! First of all, you now how I feel about a CB in the 1st round. It's a waste of a pick and not needed for this cover 2 d. Plus we are desperate for a WR, as that is the only main need we didn't fill in the offseason. Waiting until the 4th round will definitely NOT fill the biggest hole on our team. It's a bad idea. I do like two of the picks though....Fred Davis will be a stud at TE that we have been lacking for years. And Owen Schmitt gives us the true blocking FB that will plow thru for Marshawn Lynch....
                  OK why do you guys think you don't need a good CB in a cover 2?

                  TAMPA BAY is the team that started the cover 2 and from what I know they had 2 very good CB'S in RONDE BARBER and BRIAN KELLY.....YOU need good CB's in any system period especially when you have to play NEW ENGLAD twice a year.
                  GO Gators!!!!!!
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                  • Kenny
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 2728

                    #10
                    Re: An Updated DRAFT

                    Originally posted by tampabay25690
                    OK why do you guys think you don't need a good CB in a cover 2?

                    TAMPA BAY is the team that started the cover 2 and from what I know they had 2 very good CB'S in RONDE BARBER and BRIAN KELLY.....YOU need good CB's in any system period especially when you have to play NEW ENGLAD twice a year.
                    They're two of the smartest CB, -but physically speaking, they're nothing special. They're about 5'9-5'10, not the fastest, not the biggest, and not the strongest.
                    The cover2 (if we're still sticking with it), doesnt need man-to-man corners like a Champ Bailey, Chris McAllister, etc... it relies very heavily on smart play in the secondary, and killer pressure from the line (which is why I want Harvey!!!)

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                    • Jan Reimers
                      Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
                      • May 2003
                      • 17353

                      #11
                      Re: An Updated DRAFT

                      Not a bad draft IF you substitute Devin Thomas for Mike Jenkins in the first round, and the best available CB - Flowers or T. Thomas - for Pollak in the 3rd, and then take Pollak (or the best C available) instead of Hubbard in the 4th and. . .

                      Well, at least I like Davis, Thompson and Schmitt, and Pollak a round lower.
                      Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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                      • Dr. Lecter
                        Zero for Zero!
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 67946

                        #12
                        Re: An Updated DRAFT

                        Originally posted by Ultra Chimp 1
                        I know what will happen if we take a CB. He will be shipped off without a franchise tag in 2009.
                        He would be a UFA after one season???????
                        Originally posted by mysticsoto
                        Lecter is right in everything he said.

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                        • tampabay25690
                          Registered User
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 9670

                          #13
                          Re: An Updated DRAFT

                          Originally posted by Kenny
                          They're two of the smartest CB, -but physically speaking, they're nothing special. They're about 5'9-5'10, not the fastest, not the biggest, and not the strongest.
                          The cover2 (if we're still sticking with it), doesnt need man-to-man corners like a Champ Bailey, Chris McAllister, etc... it relies very heavily on smart play in the secondary, and killer pressure from the line (which is why I want Harvey!!!)
                          What does size have anything to do with the 2 guys?
                          They were 2 solid CB's.
                          I know the TAMPA 2 obviously watching it living in TAMPA.....The actual key to the defense is your 2 INSIDE GUYS....THATS why we have STROUD and McCargo (which I think will have a huge year with Stroud next to him......You have to get pressure in the backfield, YES thats why I like HARVEY as well coming from the outside....It will be very interesting I can see the BILLS going so many different ways in this draft. I guess it will all depend on the 1st 10 picks in the draft...
                          GO Gators!!!!!!
                          GO GATORS!!

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                          • Mahdi
                            Registered User
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 10585

                            #14
                            Re: An Updated DRAFT

                            Originally posted by tampabay25690
                            What does size have anything to do with the 2 guys?
                            They were 2 solid CB's.
                            I know the TAMPA 2 obviously watching it living in TAMPA.....The actual key to the defense is your 2 INSIDE GUYS....THATS why we have STROUD and McCargo (which I think will have a huge year with Stroud next to him......You have to get pressure in the backfield, YES thats why I like HARVEY as well coming from the outside....It will be very interesting I can see the BILLS going so many different ways in this draft. I guess it will all depend on the 1st 10 picks in the draft...
                            The point is that Barber and Kelly are CBs that thrived in the cover 2. They were drafted specifically to play in that system and it worked out. Barber is the best of the 2 and he was drafted in the 3rd round. Kelly was drafted in the middle of the second.

                            I think players like Brandon Flowers, Antoine Cason, Charles Godfrey would be great pickups in the 3rd round that would thrive in a cover 2. And you dont need to spend a high pick on them and tie up cap space in a position that doesnt require the best man to man CB in the draft or in the league.

                            As a sidenote I dont think Flowers or Cason will last till the 3rd, but Godfrey, Terrell Thomas, Darnell Terrell, Justin King can be there in the 3rd or even 4th.

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                            • Kenny
                              Registered User
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 2728

                              #15
                              Re: An Updated DRAFT

                              Originally posted by tampabay25690
                              What does size have anything to do with the 2 guys?
                              They were 2 solid CB's.
                              I know the TAMPA 2 obviously watching it living in TAMPA.....The actual key to the defense is your 2 INSIDE GUYS....THATS why we have STROUD and McCargo (which I think will have a huge year with Stroud next to him......You have to get pressure in the backfield, YES thats why I like HARVEY as well coming from the outside....It will be very interesting I can see the BILLS going so many different ways in this draft. I guess it will all depend on the 1st 10 picks in the draft...
                              My point is we dont need to find a CB that 'has' the potential to turn out to be the next Champ Bailey. We just need to find smart CBs with average physical tools, and they'll be just fine in our system. Hence the reason we dont need to go CB in the first round.

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