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  • Tatonka
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 21289

    How does Albert help us?

    I see a whole lot of people convincing themselves that brandon albert would be a great pick. the same brandon albert that has shot up the draft boards because people THINK he would be a good LT. ok.. i can live with that.. i personally wouldnt want a guy that could maybe be a good LT but hasnt showing it much yet. that aside..

    say we draft Albert.. where does he go.. well the only spot he could go is RG. Albert is not a center.

    so we put him at center and replace one of the two guys that we have groomed to be a good starter on our line (peters being the other).

    so then we still have a gaping hole at center... which happens to be the only position we really need to address at all. and you can get an upgrade at center in the 3rd round.

    if you guys think that brad butler, who tried center for a short time in minicamps and didnt stick, is going to take over and be an upgrade over fowler, your kidding yourself. he has never played it. he was a right tackle, and has already changed to RG and is just getting set in there.. you want to move him again? i dont see it. doesnt make any sense.

    i can understand the desire to have a great prospect who could be a good LT in the wings.. i get that we are one injury away from kirk chamber being a starter at the tackle spot... but we have no STARTERS at other positions that we have to fill first.

    i like the idea of drafting albert i guess.. but it is a luxury that a team like ours can not afford right now.. just say no to albert.
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  • PECKERWOOD
    Defies all logic
    • Oct 2006
    • 13170

    #2
    Re: How does Albert help us?

    I think C and RG are both problem areas on the Bills OL but RG would absolutely be the easiest to fill. I really don't see a C that could come in right away and dramatically improve our offense. I keep hearing all this stuff about a "smashmouth offense" and a "power running game" but I don't see it! Lynch could barely pop out 4ypc behind our OL last year. To be perfectly honest, I wouldn't mind if the first 2-3 picks addressed the trenches on BOTH sides of the ball. I really hope that Modrak went to the school of Andy Reid this offseason because I really like that whole concept alot. Lastly, don't forget that Albert can play LT too. We could plug Albert in at RG and if Peters or Walker goes down, boom, plug him in, plug him in.

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    • DrGraves
      Registered User
      • Mar 2008
      • 2693

      #3
      Re: How does Albert help us?

      well if albert somehow makes our line better. it will give more time for our horrible tiny midget WR's to get open. or we could just draft a WR and problem solved.

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      • Night Train
        Retired - On Several Levels
        • Jul 2005
        • 33117

        #4
        Re: How does Albert help us?

        So what if we draft a CB in Round 1 ?
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        • Devin
          The Octagon
          • Apr 2003
          • 23878

          #5
          Re: How does Albert help us?

          It depends on your perception.

          Albert has the ability to play OT, probably given his stellar physical attributes LT. But you and perhaps others are assuming this is the sole....or maybe the biggest reason anyway that the want for him is there.

          Albert is one of the better OG prospects to come out in years, he rates better then Grubbs last year and as has been noted some believe (while not as high) the best OG prospect since Hutch. Hes that good.

          While he MAY be able to play LT and play it well, I would assume if he were drafted here hed be playing OG. You have to look at the big picture. A line with Peters, dockey, albert and even an average Walker and Fowler is amongst the best in the league. You give your promising QB and your franchise RB one of the better lines in football to operate behind.

          Im not saying I think hes the best option given our needs, however that said id be more then happy if we drafted him. That kid is going to be a pro-bowl lineman.

          Given our youth and contract status wed have 3-4 pieces (great pieces at that) of our OL locked up for the next 3-5 years. And a long standing problem in buffalo resolved.
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          • YardRat
            Well, lookie here...
            • Dec 2004
            • 86323

            #6
            Re: How does Albert help us?

            The line is only as strong as it's weakest link, and if there isn't an upgrade for Fowler along with Albert, it isn't going to be that much improved over last year's, if any.
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            • PECKERWOOD
              Defies all logic
              • Oct 2006
              • 13170

              #7
              Re: How does Albert help us?

              Originally posted by YardRat
              The line is only as strong as it's weakest link, and if there isn't an upgrade for Fowler along with Albert, it isn't going to be that much improved over last year's, if any.
              I really want to see what beastmode could do behind a great OL, that would be some Buffalo football definately worth watching!! I probably shouldn't get my hopes up too much though because if I want him, chances are we won't draft him!

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              • Devin
                The Octagon
                • Apr 2003
                • 23878

                #8
                Re: How does Albert help us?

                Could always draft Pollak at C in round 3
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                • camelcowboy
                  Registered User
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 7449

                  #9
                  Re: How does Albert help us?

                  drafting a solid og who could back up both tackle spots can be nice. Looking at this draft any player we at 11 will have some questions.


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                  • Mitchy moo
                    Roways rooking ahread!
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 18380

                    #10
                    Re: How does Albert help us?

                    Originally posted by BuffaloFever
                    I think C and RG are both problem areas on the Bills OL but RG would absolutely be the easiest to fill. I really don't see a C that could come in right away and dramatically improve our offense. I keep hearing all this stuff about a "smashmouth offense" and a "power running game" but I don't see it! Lynch could barely pop out 4ypc behind our OL last year. To be perfectly honest, I wouldn't mind if the first 2-3 picks addressed the trenches on BOTH sides of the ball. I really hope that Modrak went to the school of Andy Reid this offseason because I really like that whole concept alot. Lastly, don't forget that Albert can play LT too. We could plug Albert in at RG and if Peters or Walker goes down, boom, plug him in, plug him in.
                    6 defensive guys standing in the box and we have no audibles available and run the play no matter what, that's normally a problem. I personally think ML did great, 6th graders could figure out when we we're going to run the past few years but hopefully not anymore.

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                    • TigerJ
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 22575

                      #11
                      Re: How does Albert help us?

                      Albert has actually played some left tackle (in '06) so it's not merely a projection that he can play there. I'm certainly not an advocate of drafting him though. If he's available at 11, and somebody wants to trade up to get him, trade away, Russ Brandon.
                      I've made up my mind. Don't confuse me with the facts.

                      I'm the most reasonable poster here. If you don't agree, I'll be forced to have a hissy fit.

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                      • John Doe
                        Florida Man
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 2514

                        #12
                        Re: How does Albert help us?

                        Originally posted by camelcowboy
                        drafting a solid og who could back up both tackle spots can be nice. Looking at this draft any player we at 11 will have some questions.
                        That's a good point.

                        Last season the Bills were fortunate that the injury bug did not hit the starters on the offensive line until late in the season. Of course, Jason Whittle was injured early on as a back-up.

                        After Whittle went down the main game-day depth was Duke Preston at center and guard, and Kirk Chambers at tackle - both are journeyman quality. If Albert were to be drafted then he would most certainly displace Butler as a starter, but then Butler could be the main backup. If a starter at tackle were to go down then Albert could move to to that spot and Butler would assume the guard position.

                        Taking the best player available, if it is clear cut, makes sense unless a team is truely overloaded at that position. The Bills o-line is thin enough that Albert could be a solid addition.

                        Also, after the 2009 season, the team is looking at the back end of the big contracts for Dockery and Walker. Of course, Albert won't come cheap either.

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                        • Michael82
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 82328

                          #13
                          Re: How does Albert help us?

                          Originally posted by TigerJ
                          Albert has actually played some left tackle (in '06) so it's not merely a projection that he can play there. I'm certainly not an advocate of drafting him though. If he's available at 11, and somebody wants to trade up to get him, trade away, Russ Brandon.
                          I'm hoping that he is there, so some team starts drooling over him. Then the Bills can trade the pick.

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                          • jamze132
                            Don’t hate…
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 29421

                            #14
                            Re: How does Albert help us?

                            Everyone knows that games are won in the trenches. I am just not sold on taking a Guard at #11.

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                            • #15
                              Re: How does Albert help us?

                              Whilst Albert is good, he's not perfect. I'd be interested in maybe picking up Shane Olivea and moving him to RG if we wanted to improve depth.

                              A C of the future might be Robbie Powell of Purdue. Not high on lists but a hard working blue collar worker who struggled to find a college because he needed to get financial assistance, but once he got on the field simply stuck first at G and then at C. Also one of the bigger centers.

                              For me the only way to go in the draft, is trade down because in the positions which will really make a difference to the team, there is as much starting quality in R2 as there is in R1

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