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  • OpIv37
    Acid Douching Asswipe
    • Sep 2002
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    Edwards, Inexperience, "Club Jauron" and the 2008 Schedule

    Take a good look at the Bills' 2008 schedule. Out of the first 5 games of the season (before the bye), 4 look winnable:
    Sun. 9/7 SEATTLE SEAHAWKS
    Sun. 9/14 @ Jacksonville Jaguars
    Sun. 9/21 OAKLAND RAIDERS
    Sun. 9/28 @ St. Louis Rams
    Sun. 10/5 @ Arizona Cardinals

    The only real challenge there is Jacksonville and it's very possible that the Bills will come out of it 4-1 (however, as I previously stated, I think Buffalo will also lose to Arizona because it's a classic "trap" game, but I digress).

    One of the advantages of this schedule is that the first division game for Buffalo is week 8 against Miami, so the team six games to tune up (bye is week 6). Three are against mediocre non-conference opponents (Seattle, Arizona, St. Louis).

    The big disadvantage, however, is that a lot of the easier teams are in that first 5 game stretch. We have a lot of young players on this team, and while guys like Lynch and Edwards have their first full off-season of conditioning, they also don't have any more experience now than they did at the end of last season. Lynch started to come on towards the end of last season. Edwards showed some signs of improvement, but still has a long way to go.

    During the last two seasons under Dick Jauron, the Bills started slow both years. Some have speculated that this is partially due to Jauron's laid-back approach to training camp. Many players have said they enjoyed his camps because they're not as rigorous as what they've endured with other teams, but the converse of that could be a lack of physical preparation once the games start to matter.

    In addition, the 2007 Bills had a mid-to-late season push partially because they beat most of the teams (arguably all of the teams) that they were supposed to beat. No one expected a young, inexperienced Bills team to keep up with the Patriots, Giants, Cowboys or Steelers. But they should have beat the Ravens, Dolphins, Jets and Bengals, and they did. The problem with the 2008 schedule is that so many of the "winnable" games (for lack of a better term) come at the beginning of the season, when the Bills have been notoriously bad under Jauron.

    So, here's hoping for a tougher training camp to ensure the team is prepared. If the Bills get off to a slow start, don't expect another mid-season push against NE, a re-stocked Jets team, a road game at Arrowhead, the Browns on Monday night or a high-profile game against the Dolphins in Toronto. And it doesn't get any easier, with a long road trip to Denver and the Patriots again to finish out the season.
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  • YardRat
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    • Dec 2004
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    Re: Edwards, Inexperience, "Club Jauron" and the 2008 Schedule

    The team opened up well against New England in '06, hanging with them for the entire game. Denver last year was another good defensive effort. Both losses were, IMO, more attributable to offensive ineptness than anything.

    I don't want to turn this into a JP/Fairchild thread, but this year might tell us if the slow starts can be put more on Jauron's shoulders or the QB and OC.

    Based on how the defense came out playing the last two years, I know what my money is on.
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    • raphael120
      Jason Peters rigorous at home training regiment
      • Oct 2005
      • 5152

      #3
      Re: Edwards, Inexperience, "Club Jauron" and the 2008 Schedule

      I for one am getting tired of making excuses for this team to lose certain games. The only games I don't expect them to win are the Pats games because I hold the Bills FO responsible for having rebuilt this team for 3 years, that theyre playoff ready by the 3rd year. There's absolutely no reason that this team shouldn't be ready for prime time this year and to make it to the playoffs. Like Jauron said, it's playoffs or his whole tenure here will be viewed as a failure. I think many people believe that too.

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      • HHURRICANE
        Registered User
        • Mar 2005
        • 15490

        #4
        Re: Edwards, Inexperience, "Club Jauron" and the 2008 Schedule

        I'll make predictions after the draft. Too early until this and any trade plays out.

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        • Mitchy moo
          Roways rooking ahread!
          • Sep 2005
          • 18380

          #5
          Re: Edwards, Inexperience, "Club Jauron" and the 2008 Schedule

          Originally posted by OpIv37
          Take a good look at the Bills' 2008 schedule. Out of the first 5 games of the season (before the bye), 4 look winnable:
          Sun. 9/7 SEATTLE SEAHAWKS
          Sun. 9/14 @ Jacksonville Jaguars
          Sun. 9/21 OAKLAND RAIDERS
          Sun. 9/28 @ St. Louis Rams
          Sun. 10/5 @ Arizona Cardinals

          The only real challenge there is Jacksonville and it's very possible that the Bills will come out of it 4-1 (however, as I previously stated, I think Buffalo will also lose to Arizona because it's a classic "trap" game, but I digress).

          One of the advantages of this schedule is that the first division game for Buffalo is week 8 against Miami, so the team six games to tune up (bye is week 6). Three are against mediocre non-conference opponents (Seattle, Arizona, St. Louis).

          The big disadvantage, however, is that a lot of the easier teams are in that first 5 game stretch. We have a lot of young players on this team, and while guys like Lynch and Edwards have their first full off-season of conditioning, they also don't have any more experience now than they did at the end of last season. Lynch started to come on towards the end of last season. Edwards showed some signs of improvement, but still has a long way to go.

          During the last two seasons under Dick Jauron, the Bills started slow both years. Some have speculated that this is partially due to Jauron's laid-back approach to training camp. Many players have said they enjoyed his camps because they're not as rigorous as what they've endured with other teams, but the converse of that could be a lack of physical preparation once the games start to matter.

          In addition, the 2007 Bills had a mid-to-late season push partially because they beat most of the teams (arguably all of the teams) that they were supposed to beat. No one expected a young, inexperienced Bills team to keep up with the Patriots, Giants, Cowboys or Steelers. But they should have beat the Ravens, Dolphins, Jets and Bengals, and they did. The problem with the 2008 schedule is that so many of the "winnable" games (for lack of a better term) come at the beginning of the season, when the Bills have been notoriously bad under Jauron.

          So, here's hoping for a tougher training camp to ensure the team is prepared. If the Bills get off to a slow start, don't expect another mid-season push against NE, a re-stocked Jets team, a road game at Arrowhead, the Browns on Monday night or a high-profile game against the Dolphins in Toronto. And it doesn't get any easier, with a long road trip to Denver and the Patriots again to finish out the season.
          OK, who stole OP's sign in codes?

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          • SeatownBillsFan21
            Registered User
            • Mar 2004
            • 2149

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            Re: Edwards, Inexperience, "Club Jauron" and the 2008 Schedule

            3-2

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            • OpIv37
              Acid Douching Asswipe
              • Sep 2002
              • 101230

              #7
              Re: Edwards, Inexperience, "Club Jauron" and the 2008 Schedule

              Originally posted by HHURRICANE
              I'll make predictions after the draft. Too early until this and any trade plays out.
              here's what I hate about that kind of logic: if we can improve through the draft, so can our opponents. Granted, not every team will be equally successful in filling holes, and it's easier for players in some positions to make immediate impacts than at others. But we can't automatically assume that we're going to gain ground on other teams through the draft.
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              • Mitchy moo
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                • Sep 2005
                • 18380

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                Re: Edwards, Inexperience, "Club Jauron" and the 2008 Schedule

                Originally posted by OpIv37
                But we can't automatically assume that we're going to gain ground on other teams through the draft.
                Considering that every freaking team in the AFC east drafts before us in the first round, this holds pretty true.

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                • Ed
                  Registered User
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 9245

                  #9
                  Re: Edwards, Inexperience, "Club Jauron" and the 2008 Schedule

                  I'd say the Everett injury was a pretty significant contributing factor to our slow start last year also.

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                  • ptd86
                    Registered User
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 179

                    #10
                    Re: Edwards, Inexperience, "Club Jauron" and the 2008 Schedule

                    i think everyone is underrating the cardinals and rams a lot, rams were really banged up last year and will be at full strength next year. Bulger jackson and a solid wr core with a good draft they'll be good. Cards are always a wild card. I definitly think those two games will be a lot harder than everyone is making it seem.

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                    • feelthepain
                      All-Pro Zoner
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 4663

                      #11
                      Re: Edwards, Inexperience, "Club Jauron" and the 2008 Schedule

                      Originally posted by OpIv37
                      Take a good look at the Bills' 2008 schedule. Out of the first 5 games of the season (before the bye), 4 look winnable:
                      Sun. 9/7 SEATTLE SEAHAWKS
                      Sun. 9/14 @ Jacksonville Jaguars
                      Sun. 9/21 OAKLAND RAIDERS
                      Sun. 9/28 @ St. Louis Rams
                      Sun. 10/5 @ Arizona Cardinals

                      The only real challenge there is Jacksonville and it's very possible that the Bills will come out of it 4-1 (however, as I previously stated, I think Buffalo will also lose to Arizona because it's a classic "trap" game, but I digress).

                      One of the advantages of this schedule is that the first division game for Buffalo is week 8 against Miami, so the team six games to tune up (bye is week 6). Three are against mediocre non-conference opponents (Seattle, Arizona, St. Louis).

                      The big disadvantage, however, is that a lot of the easier teams are in that first 5 game stretch. We have a lot of young players on this team, and while guys like Lynch and Edwards have their first full off-season of conditioning, they also don't have any more experience now than they did at the end of last season. Lynch started to come on towards the end of last season. Edwards showed some signs of improvement, but still has a long way to go.

                      During the last two seasons under Dick Jauron, the Bills started slow both years. Some have speculated that this is partially due to Jauron's laid-back approach to training camp. Many players have said they enjoyed his camps because they're not as rigorous as what they've endured with other teams, but the converse of that could be a lack of physical preparation once the games start to matter.

                      In addition, the 2007 Bills had a mid-to-late season push partially because they beat most of the teams (arguably all of the teams) that they were supposed to beat. No one expected a young, inexperienced Bills team to keep up with the Patriots, Giants, Cowboys or Steelers. But they should have beat the Ravens, Dolphins, Jets and Bengals, and they did. The problem with the 2008 schedule is that so many of the "winnable" games (for lack of a better term) come at the beginning of the season, when the Bills have been notoriously bad under Jauron.

                      So, here's hoping for a tougher training camp to ensure the team is prepared. If the Bills get off to a slow start, don't expect another mid-season push against NE, a re-stocked Jets team, a road game at Arrowhead, the Browns on Monday night or a high-profile game against the Dolphins in Toronto. And it doesn't get any easier, with a long road trip to Denver and the Patriots again to finish out the season.
                      I think the first three weeks of your season you face three of the best defenses in the league. I would not consider them easy games.

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                      • casdhf
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 17542

                        #12
                        Re: Edwards, Inexperience, "Club Jauron" and the 2008 Schedule

                        you're all hart, bro.
                        Originally posted by BillsZone Mod
                        cas,

                        I'm just letting you know that you have been given 2 points for telling Wys AKA Mark to kill himself.

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                        • HHURRICANE
                          Registered User
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 15490

                          #13
                          Re: Edwards, Inexperience, "Club Jauron" and the 2008 Schedule

                          Originally posted by OpIv37
                          here's what I hate about that kind of logic: if we can improve through the draft, so can our opponents. Granted, not every team will be equally successful in filling holes, and it's easier for players in some positions to make immediate impacts than at others. But we can't automatically assume that we're going to gain ground on other teams through the draft.
                          That's not what I said. I said after the draft and ANY TRADES THAT PLAY OUT!!

                          Is the team better if Williams comes here form Detroit?

                          Your thread might be 100% accurate but until Sunday night I'm waiting. It's premature.

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                          • historypete
                            Registered User
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 520

                            #14
                            Re: Edwards, Inexperience, "Club Jauron" and the 2008 Schedule

                            I'm all for making training camp a bit tougher. Working it last year, it always seemed Jauron was cutting practices short. I think this is a significant reason why the offense sputtered, although that guy who is now at CSU was the real problem. There should be more 7 on 7 and 11 on 11 scrimmaging. Practices should probably be more intense especaially since they significantly limit the two-a-days.

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                            • Pinkerton Security
                              Pinkerton's son
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 6003

                              #15
                              Re: Edwards, Inexperience, "Club Jauron" and the 2008 Schedule

                              Originally posted by feelthepain
                              I think the first three weeks of your season you face three of the best defenses in the league. I would not consider them easy games.
                              statistically, as far as 2007 goes (and I realize they may get better, but they may also get worse), the 3 teams you're talking about rank as such in total defense:

                              JAX - 12
                              Sea- 15
                              Oakland - 22

                              Granted, they ARE good defenses, just not great ones. I do probably consider JAX as one of the best. Just not the others.

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