Our 1st Pick... Initial Reaction

[jamze132]

Stupid taking a mother****ing CB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jamze132]

Sure was a quick decision! Did we even consider trading down?????

[clumping platelets]

:down:

[clumping platelets]

At least he's of value at that point of the draft

[Nighthawk]

Yuck...hate it. It may work out, but it was the one thing that I didn't want them doing...drafting a CB in the first.

[Johnny Bugmenot]

And under 6' too. Smooth one.

They'd better hope James Hardy falls...

[jamze132]

Un****in'beliveable!!!!!!!

[DraftBoy]

I dont know why you guys are so shocked

[kernowboy]

Apparently he was liked for a while, is value, and I guess they felt there will the WR we need in R2.

I imagine they've investigated deals prior to the draft but with the draft moves that occured, no-one was willing to trade up.

I guess we'll need to see the whole draft to see if its a good pick or not

[njsue]

:fit: Another Midget CB to defend a 6'4" WR. MISMATCH

Cromarte was their for the taking.

[Mahdi]

My only concern is that we are still the same on offense and theres no guarantee that the WR we need will still be there in the second round or that we will be able to trade back into the first. And even if we do trade back into the first it will cost us the ability to address other needs like DE and TE.

[Dr. Lecter]

I like it. Top ranked CB. Fills a need.

Except for a trade down and taking Thomas, this was the way to go.

[Dr. Lecter]

:fit: Another Midget CB to defend a 6'4" WR. MISMATCH

Cromarte was their for the taking.

DRC is a boom or bust.

McKelvin is a fine pick.

[Rhettoric]

I may be in the minority, but I like the pick I think with coaching he will be a great cover 2 cb and add in his return capabilities he'll contribute in two phases of the game.

I think overall his is a better fit for us than DRC although I wish we could have traded down and maybe picked up Albert later in the first.

[Mahdi]

I will say though that they are getting an elite player and a potential shut down CB. But will he last longer than Nate did? I doubt we pay him after his rookie contract.

[njsue]

My only concern is that we are still the same on offense and theres no guarantee that the WR we need will still be there in the second round or that we will be able to trade back into the first. And even if we do trade back into the first it will cost us the ability to address other needs like DE and TE.

This may be a long shot, but Julius Peppers is in the last year of his contract. :D

[Marvelous]

Great work Modrak & CO :):):)

-I was 100% convinced that 11 was too early this year for the WR's in this class. So if we can score one in the 2nd we get a a+ for day 1....

-I'm sorry non believers but Terrance McGee & UDFA Jabari Greer aren't gonna cut it for the future... I was hoping for McKelvin when we went on the clock... And i admit i didnt want Cromartie at all.. And 11 seemed too early for Mike Jenkins....

-We are a team on the rise....

--If we get Sweed or Malcolm Kelly, or Hardy, will you still be pissed?
--I just don't see Reed & Parrish as big a question mark as the starting CB's..And im surprised such knowledgable Bills fans do...
/scratches head

[Nighthawk]

This team's offense is still untouched from last year. There is a lot of draft left, so that might change, but getting a CB does not help us where we need it the most and that is offense. What I hate about it the most is that now we probably will have to trade up to get a WR and then it will be impossible for us to get a good TE. I've got to see how this plays out, but right now, I don't like it.

[W1DER1GHT]

I'm happy with him, but I really wanted Thomas.

[X-Era]

they drafted the #1 CB, very well done. It adds a possible stud to the last level of our D.

[njsue]

DRC is a boom or bust.

McKelvin is a fine pick.

Mckelvin is 5'10". An Undersized CB cannot defend a 6'4" wr.

Randy Moss will smoke us once again.

[Al the Bills Fan]

I like the pick! No WR was worth #11 and we filled a need at CB

[Nighthawk]

Great work Modrak & CO :):):)

-I was 100% convinced that 11 was too early this year for the WR's in this class. So if we can score one in the 2nd we get a a+ for day 1....

-I'm sorry non believers but Terrance McGee & UDFA Jabari Greer aren't gonna cut it for the future... I was hoping for McKelvin when we went on the clock... And i admit i didnt want Cromartie at all.. And 11 seemed too early for Mike Jenkins....

-We are a team on the rise....

--If we get Sweed or Malcolm Kelly, or Hardy, will you still be pissed?
--I just don't see Reed & Parrish as big a question mark as the starting CB's..And im surprised such knowledgable Bills fans do...
/scratches head

Not to be rude, but if you don't see Reed & Parrish as a problem if they're still starting this year, then you have no clue what you're talking about. This team's WR core is worse than mediocre.

[Dr. Lecter]

Mckelvin is 5'10". An Undersized CB cannot defend a 6'4" wr.

Randy Moss will smoke us once again.

OK.

DRC ain't covering him either.

You don't pick a CB to cover one player.

[thecoordinator]

they drafted the #1 CB, very well done. It adds a possible stud to the last level of our D.

whatever you gotta tell urself to make it through the day...

[njsue]

OK.

DRC ain't covering him either.

You don't pick a CB to cover one player.

The secondary is still UNDERSIZED!!!

[Elminster]

Do we have a philosophy or what? I thought the whole rationale with releasing Clements was that this sort of CB wasn't needed? Meh...I hope we get back up there and actually address our offense. You have to score points to win Dick...don't forget it!

[Devin]

Fantastic pick, we really needed to go D here. I would have rather gotten a pass rusher but CB is undoubtedley a need.

McKelvin was tops on the board. Love the pick.

And to boot ALL WR's are still there.

The Bills made the right call.

[Al the Bills Fan]

I think we will be able to address WR in the second round, No WR taken yet!

[Mitchy moo]

Kid looks like he can ball and he's a playmaker.

[Marvelous]

This team's offense is still untouched from last year. There is a lot of draft left, so that might change, but getting a CB does not help us where we need it the most and that is offense. What I hate about it the most is that now we probably will have to trade up to get a WR and then it will be impossible for us to get a good TE. I've got to see how this plays out, but right now, I don't like it.

That is your opinion, so howabout a "IMO" next time because i think CB & our D struggled... I woulda been happy with Brandon Albert or the best available OT...

[tampabay25690]

Great pick.....Anyone that KNOWS football knows you can never have enough secondary help........

I knew we would go DB and we got the best on the board....
GREAT PICK

[X-Era]

whatever you gotta tell urself to make it through the day...

ZZZZZZZZZZZZ, someone found a new computer and used a new name to blast posters.

[PECKERWOOD]

I'm very happy with Leodis McKelvin, I've always said trade down unless McKelvin is available! I'm expecting Malcolm Kelly anytime now.

[coastal]

You have Albert there and a chance to make this oline elite....

and you take a 5'10" CB with poor ball skills from a small school.

Welcome to another year of not making the playoffs.

I am so sick of this ****ing team.

[Johnny Bugmenot]

That is your opinion, so howabout a "IMO" next time because i think CB & our D struggled... I woulda been happy with Brandon Albert or the best available OT...

Yet another OT? Are you kidding me?! We already have a Pro Bowler in Peters and those guys we picked up last year. Not another one in the 1st.

This team hasn't brought in a big name WR free agent or picked up a first-round WR draft pick since Evans. The position has been neglected, and as our all-under-6' crew demonstrates, it shows.

[shelby]

Here is his writeup from CBS Sportsline:


One of the most electrifying return specialists in the game, Leodis McKelvin also developed into a standout cover cornerback during his time with the Trojans. Even though he touched the ball only twice on offense, he amassed a school all-time record 3,909 all-purpose yards, the third-best career total in Sun Belt Conference history.
His eight total kicks returned for touchdowns (seven punts, one kickoff) tied the NCAA Division 1-A record. His 211 total returned kicks (99 kickoffs/112 punts) topped the previous collegiate record of 203 by Deltha O'Neal of California (1996-99) and his 3,817 total kick return yards also established an NCAA record, surpassing O'Neal's old mark of 3,455 yards.

.........Analysis
Positives: Has a lean frame, but shows good muscle tone and the body to carry another 10 pounds without having the added weight impact his quickness … Not the most instinctive ball hawk you will find, but he has quick feet and good change-of-direction agility to close, once he locates the ball … Smooth open-field runner with the balance, body control and leaping ability to make plays on balls that are outside of his frame (must extend for the ball more often, though, as he will body catch) … Can take the plays from the chalkboard to the field with just a few reps … Plays with good confidence and he will not hesitate to combat for the jump balls or mix it up with receivers running through their patterns … Will get rag-dolled at the line of scrimmage in run support, but still shows willingness to plug the rush lanes (made 24 plays in run support as a senior) … Hard worker in practices and in the training room and is respected by the staff and his teammates, taking pride in his team captaincy … When he doesn't bail out of his backpedal too early, he generates good transition quickness and a burst to close coming out of his breaks … Needs to extend for the ball, but you can see that he has the timing and leaping ability to get to the pass at its high point … He will get high in his pedal and shuffle his feet at times, but comes out of his breaks with good balance … Not that strong, but is a pester type that will keep his hands active in attempts to reroute the receiver … When he plants and drives smoothly, he is capable of mirroring the receiver (will struggle to recover when he fails to open his hips) … Shows the willingness and toughness to quickly support vs. run and will throw his body around to get the ballcarrier on the ground (likes contact) … Sees routes develop adequately, but is better when he can sink under deep stuff and react to things in front of him rather than play deep in the zone (will have lapses and allow a receiver to come free when he eyeballs the backfield too long) … Will fight for the ball in a crowd (shows good courage) and gets excellent elevation to combine with solid body control adjusting to the ball in flight … Does not shy away from contact and while he has marginal weight-room strength, he will lower his shoulder and thump a ballcarrier in attempts to contain the outside run … Shows good vision, foot quickness, and change-of-direction agility as a return specialist … Fields the ball cleanly as a kickoff and punt returner and has a knack for making big plays with the ball in his hands … Not a great wrap-up tackler (struggles to bring opponents down), but will square up and put his hat on the ballcarrier (not effective when he tackles to the side, as he will fall off those hits).
Negatives: Lacks ideal bulk, but has good muscle definition … Does not always play up to his timed speed, but does show good urgency to close (hip flexibility is just adequate) … Needs to be more alert on the field, as he will be fooled by pump fakes and play-action … Lacks the overall strength to be a physical tackler and needs to show better route anticipation; eyes the backfield too long rather than mirroring the receiver … Not the type that can naturally locate the ball, but will get there once he finds it … Must refine his backpedal technique, as he opens his hips too soon and comes out of his pedal early (would get a better break if he was not so tall in his stance, as it narrows his hips, preventing him from getting a fluid turn on the ball) … When he spends too much time looking into the backfield when playing deep in the zone, receivers have had success getting behind him … Must take better angles closing on the ball and, when a receiver gets behind him, he struggles to recover … More of a drag-down type of tackler, but he needs to face up and wrap better (will take a side, letting receivers break his arm tackles) … Must do a better job of securing the ball and protecting it on returns (leaves it exposed, resulting in costly fumbles … Willing in run force, but lacks the tackle technique and power to be effective playing at line, getting washed out often by bigger blockers in a crowd … Has adequate hands, but he needs to do a better job of extending for the ball (uses his body as a crutch and several of his pass deflections could have been interceptions if he caught the ball outside his frame).
Compares To: R.W. McQUARTERS-New York Giants … Like McQuarters, McKelvin is a solid return specialist, even though he does not always play to his timed speed. He needs some technique refinement, but due to a lack of natural power, he is never going to be a physical tackler. He shows willingness in run support, but is better making plays on the move than getting bounced around in tight quarters. Like McQuarters, he runs hot-and-cold with his ball-reaction skills, sometimes looking like Bambi staring down at the headlights of an oncoming truck. McKelvin has the ability to break a game open once he finds a crease on returns. Until he can prove that he can add strength, his immediate value will be on special teams.


full story (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/draft/519682)

i must confess i wanted DRC...but this kid is a special teams madman, and we can use him.:up:

[Michael82]

I like him better than DRC, especially because he's a replacement for Terrence McGee as our KR. Plus he was the best CB in the draft. But I would have preferred a WR or a trade down. I will be happier with this draft if the Bills find a way to still get one of the top 4 WRs. This is very possible. I forsee a trade up. :pray:

[FlyingDutchman]

Im with you Shelby. I wanted DRC but I love this pick. I think we move back in to the first with Seattle and grab Kelly.

[Michael82]

Im with you Shelby. I wanted DRC but I love this pick. I think we move back in to the first with Seattle and grab Kelly.
That would make this day 1 excellent IMO. :drool:

[The Answer]

Sure was a quick decision! Did we even consider trading down?????

Yes we were very close to a deal with KC but as soon as NE passed on McKelvin the Bills pulled out because this is a player they had rated near the top of the draft board.

More to come.....

~The Answer

[The Answer]

Apparently he was liked for a while, is value, and I guess they felt there will the WR we need in R2.

I imagine they've investigated deals prior to the draft but with the draft moves that occured, no-one was willing to trade up.

I guess we'll need to see the whole draft to see if its a good pick or not

Apparently the Bills front office had him rated as the #3 overall player in the draft - so it was a no brainer we grabbed him and I think this was a great move considering he's projected to be a top flight corner and the best return man available.

Also don't forget that Troy has a solid track record as of late when it comes to producing playmakers on the defensive side of the football (See Demarcus Ware).

~The Answer

[kernowboy]

Basically the way the draft is going, no-one needed to trade up with us

The Chiefs haven't given much to move up for Albert. The Lions have gone a little mad drafting Cherilus with Otah on the board and Flacco ahead of Brohm - WTF

All I can say is we got a guy grading in almost every mock at somewhere between No6 and No10 at our slot.

Some teams have over reached whilst we have just gone BPA - I'm not sold on James, Greer could be a one-season wonder and Youboty hasn't developed as we'd like = McKelvin was made a need after all?

Why do we need to move back into R1 for a temper tandrum prone slow WR? ... lets see how the draft comes to us.

[Bert102176]

well once again we will miss the playoffs what's our next pick a rb dumb f*^%#

[FlyingDutchman]

That would make this day 1 excellent IMO. :drool:

absolutely! And if we can somehow do it without giving up our third so we can grab a quality TE i will do freaking back flips

[Jayhawk]

I'm cool with it, obvously the team doesn't feel comfortable

[Johnny Bugmenot]

Why do we need to move back into R1 for a temper tandrum prone slow WR?

Because we need a big-impact tall WR NOW to fix the anemic passing attack and they didn't even touch FA in this field.

[John Doe]

McKelvin can make an immediate impact. Not only is he a great cover corner with run support capability, but his kick returning skills are superb. The team had very little depth at punt and kick returner last season and special teams are very important to the success of the Bills.

This will relieve some of the pressure on McGee at corner and returner. And, if Parrish were to get hurt, the Bills are covered there as well.

[LifetimeBillsFan]

I can't believe this.

The Bills just got the top-rated CB in the draft--and we all knew that they would be taking a CB in the first 3 rounds. A guy who was expected to be taken in the Top 10 picks in the draft.

And, the majority of people here are grousing about it? Unbelieveable!

Now, I will admit that I would have prefered to see the Bills trade down and pick up additional picks. And, I loved DRC as the # 2 CB and would have liked to see them take him at # 17 or thereabouts. But...

McKelvin was the top-rated CB in the draft for a reason.

True, he has hands of stone and is not quite as athletic as DRC.

But, he is very close in athleticism to DRC and is a much more polished, NFL ready CB.

Did anyone see him in the passing drills at the Senior Bowl? The QBs had trouble completing anything to the WRs that he was covering--he was getting to and knocking down virtually every pass!

No, he is not going to generate the same kind of turnovers that DRC will eventually get. But, while a great CB can, at best, get .5 turnovers a game over the course of his career, he can be expected to face close to an average of 10 3rd down passing situations a game--and a CB who can keep his man from converting 3rd downs can turn the ball back over to his offense more often than an average of .5 times a game. And, that's what McKelvin can do for the Bills.

DRC may develop into a CB who can also do that, but McKelvin isn't going to get pushed around trying to jam bigger WRs at the line of scrimmage the way that DRC was going against a lower level of competition in college (look at some of his tapes, not just his highlights and you will see this and why he wasn't as highly rated as McKelvin). That's not to say that DRC won't get better and eliminate this weakness in his game, but McKelvin comes into the NFL more ready to play.

Again, while I wouldn't necessarily have done what the Bills did, if you don't go into the draft "married" to a particular player or draft strategy and just look at the player what the Bills did, you have to admit that the Bills got themselves a pretty good prospect--a projected Top 10 prospect--who has a chance to help them--perhaps even make it into the starting lineup by mid-season--this year. A guy who can be a shutdown CB that can take his man out of the game and leave one of their safeties to roam the field and create turnovers elsewhere. And, that's not bad at all.

No, he's not 6'4--you aren't going to find any 6'4 CBs out there who are any good. But, he is big enough to get the job done and has an unusual knack for getting his hands on the ball.

And, as far as filling the rest of the Bills' needs on offense, well, there is still a long way to go in this draft and Mayock may be right about a lot of NFL teams having the WRs a lot lower rated than a lot of us may have thought. Let's just wait and see what happens.

For now, though, IMHO the Bills got themselves a pretty good player who should be able to help them at some point this season.

[kernowboy]

Because we need a big-impact tall WR NOW to fix the anemic passing attack and they didn't even touch FA in this field.

And Kelly is so slow he's gone to be there at No41 or Hardy will.

And to trade you need to find someone to trade with who doesn't demand everything ... or haven't you figured that out?

[Michael82]

absolutely! And if we can somehow do it without giving up our third so we can grab a quality TE i will do freaking back flips
So will I..... :drool: :dream:

[shelby]

Im with you Shelby. I wanted DRC but I love this pick. I think we move back in to the first with Seattle and grab Kelly.
Congratulations, you won 15k in my draft poll!

[FlyingDutchman]

Congratulations, you won 15k in my draft poll!

Thanks Shelby. Can you paste that link for me? I knew i made a prediction somewhere but couldnt remember where.

[shelby]

Thanks Shelby. Can you paste that link for me? I knew i made a prediction somewhere but couldnt remember where.

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[Johnny Bugmenot]

And Kelly is so slow he's gone to be there at No41 or Hardy will.

And to trade you need to find someone to trade with who doesn't demand everything ... or haven't you figured that out?

Do you remember 2003?

We thought the pass rushing DE we needed would be there at 23. Then there was a huge run and all the good ones were taken. Do you really want to take the risk of that happening again?

[Michael82]

I can't believe this.

The Bills just got the top-rated CB in the draft--and we all knew that they would be taking a CB in the first 3 rounds. A guy who was expected to be taken in the Top 10 picks in the draft.

And, the majority of people here are grousing about it? Unbelieveable!

Now, I will admit that I would have prefered to see the Bills trade down and pick up additional picks. And, I loved DRC as the # 2 CB and would have liked to see them take him at # 17 or thereabouts. But...

McKelvin was the top-rated CB in the draft for a reason.

True, he has hands of stone and is not quite as athletic as DRC.

But, he is very close in athleticism to DRC and is a much more polished, NFL ready CB.

Did anyone see him in the passing drills at the Senior Bowl? The QBs had trouble completing anything to the WRs that he was covering--he was getting to and knocking down virtually every pass!

No, he is not going to generate the same kind of turnovers that DRC will eventually get. But, while a great CB can, at best, get .5 turnovers a game over the course of his career, he can be expected to face close to an average of 10 3rd down passing situations a game--and a CB who can keep his man from converting 3rd downs can turn the ball back over to his offense more often than an average of .5 times a game. And, that's what McKelvin can do for the Bills.

DRC may develop into a CB who can also do that, but McKelvin isn't going to get pushed around trying to jam bigger WRs at the line of scrimmage the way that DRC was going against a lower level of competition in college (look at some of his tapes, not just his highlights and you will see this and why he wasn't as highly rated as McKelvin). That's not to say that DRC won't get better and eliminate this weakness in his game, but McKelvin comes into the NFL more ready to play.

Again, while I wouldn't necessarily have done what the Bills did, if you don't go into the draft "married" to a particular player or draft strategy and just look at the player what the Bills did, you have to admit that the Bills got themselves a pretty good prospect--a projected Top 10 prospect--who has a chance to help them--perhaps even make it into the starting lineup by mid-season--this year. A guy who can be a shutdown CB that can take his man out of the game and leave one of their safeties to roam the field and create turnovers elsewhere. And, that's not bad at all.

No, he's not 6'4--you aren't going to find any 6'4 CBs out there who are any good. But, he is big enough to get the job done and has an unusual knack for getting his hands on the ball.

And, as far as filling the rest of the Bills' needs on offense, well, there is still a long way to go in this draft and Mayock may be right about a lot of NFL teams having the WRs a lot lower rated than a lot of us may have thought. Let's just wait and see what happens.

For now, though, IMHO the Bills got themselves a pretty good player who should be able to help them at some point this season. Excellent post, man! I feel better now. :bf1:

[kernowboy]

Do you remember 2003?

We thought the pass rushing DE we needed would be there at 23. Then there was a huge run and all the good ones were taken. Do you really want to take the risk of that happening again?

Yes its now No22 ... and the run on WR hasn't begun yet.

That means there were 11 other teams who didn't think that a WR was worth a pick before No22 at least

And with players like Jenkins, Cason, Meadenhall, Brohm, Merling, Connor, Balmer etc still not selected there's a decent chance we'll get that WR by staying put and a TE in the 3rd

[kernowboy]

and some teams seem to be seriously reaching especially at QB and on the OL

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Yes its now No22 ... and the run on WR hasn't begun yet.

That means there were 11 other teams who didn't think that a WR was worth a pick before No22 at least

And with players like Jenkins, Cason, Meadenhall, Brohm, Merling, Connor, Balmer etc still not selected there's a decent chance we'll get that WR by staying put and a TE in the 3rd

:pray:

[kernowboy]

Do you remember 2003?

We thought the pass rushing DE we needed would be there at 23. Then there was a huge run and all the good ones were taken. Do you really want to take the risk of that happening again?

Oh and Johnny

In 2003, after No23, there was only one DE taken before we selected again at No48 Chris Kelsay and that was Tyler Brayton at No32

Does one pick in 25 equal a run at a certain position?

[FlyingDutchman]

With the way the draft played out 1-10 I dont understand how anyone expected us NOT to draft either Mckelvin or DRC. It was was obvious. He is a better tackler than DRC so I guess they like him better.

[jamze132]

So basically Bobby April got his "make a wish" dream come true... :poop:

[RockStar36]

:fit: Another Midget CB to defend a 6'4" WR. MISMATCH

Cromarte was their for the taking.

there

[Johnny Bugmenot]

Oh and Johnny

In 2003, after No23, there was only one DE taken before we selected again at No48 Chris Kelsay and that was Tyler Brayton at No32

Does one pick in 25 equal a run at a certain position?

Does 5 picks in 8 NOT equal a run?

[jamze132]

Let's not forget that this thread was an INITIAL REACTION to our first pick. Although I cam currently unhappy with it, let's wait and see what the rest of the draft looks like before making any final assessments.

If we still get our top WR according to our FOs board, I will be much happier.

[JD]

The guy is 5'10, awesome.. his vertical better be 90"

[kernowboy]

Does 5 picks in 8 NOT equal a run?

You said the 2003 draft ... would you like me to list the players for you who don't play at DE.

Dallas Clark TE
William Joseph DT
Kwame Harris OT
Larry Johnson RB
Andre Woolfolk CB
Nick Barnett LB
Sammy Davis CB
Nnamdi Asonugha CB
TYLER BRAYTON DE
Eric Steinbauch OG
Boss Bailey LB
Charles Tillman CB
Eugene Wilson S
Joe Stinchcomb OT
Al Johnson C
Rashean Matthis CB
EJ Henderson LB
Bennie Joppru TE
Ken Hamlin S
Pisa Tinoisamoa LB
Taylor Jacobs WR
Bethen Johnson WR
Drayton Florence CB
Kawika Mitchell LB

These were the players selected between McGahee at No23 and Kelsay at No48

Again where is the run on 5 DEs in 8 picks, Johnny?

[kernowboy]

Could this be a draft where no WR goes in R1??????

[Johnny Bugmenot]

You said the 2003 draft ... would you like me to list the players for you who don't play at DE.

These were the players selected between McGahee at No23 and Kelsay at No48

Again where is the run on 5 DEs in 8 picks, Johnny?
I was talking about BEFORE 23. The team picked AT 23, which is where they anticipated the pass rushing DE to be. They were all gone by 23 -- Haines, MacDougal, Suggs, Warren, even Pace. We were even considering Polamalu as our last resort and he was gone, too.

[Dantheman1280]

Limas is coming to town!!

[djjimkelly]

i am pretty pumped about this pick guys alot of signs of this pick lead me to believe the cover 2 will soon be axed in buffalo

[Dr. Lecter]

OK, keep the name calling down. It has been a good day so far....

[BAM]

Good pick IMO! I see nothing wrong with it. Fills a need, probably immediately.

[Philagape]

I'm fine with the pick IF Sweed or Thomas falls to Buffalo. Looking good as of now

[Michael82]

I'm fine with the pick IF Sweed or Thomas falls to Buffalo. Looking good as of now
.....or Kelly or Hardy, and I agree! :up:

[kernowboy]

and there are still guys on the board like Merling, Brohm, Connor and Balmer

[FlyingDutchman]

People, be happy. We got the best CB in the draft! Give the FO the benefit of the doubt that we couldnt find someone to trade out with. So we went with the best CB. Why does this befuddle and anger people? Have you guys been watching the draft? Obviously a WR at 11 would not have been a good move. We filled another glaring hole with the best Player available!

[Mr. Cynical]

Taking a CB at #11. Dumb.

Taking Mckelvin over DRC. Insane.

Just goes to show you we aren't going anywhere until a new owner brings in a competent GM.

[Dr. Lecter]

lol!

[jamze132]

People, be happy. We got the best CB in the draft! Give the FO the benefit of the doubt that we couldnt find someone to trade out with. So we went with the best CB. Why does this befuddle and anger people? Have you guys been watching the draft? Obviously a WR at 11 would not have been a good move. We filled another glaring hole with the best Player available!
Because we only spent about 3 nano-seconds getting the card to the podium.

[Dr. Lecter]

The Rams take the first WR - Donnie Avery???

[Dr. Lecter]

Wash has to take one now.

Kelly or Thomas?

[Philagape]

McKelvin! I love it! :up: ;)

[patmoran2006]

OK.

DRC ain't covering him either.

You don't pick a CB to cover one player.
when u pick a guy 11th you better be picking him to cover one ****ing guy

[Al the Bills Fan]

Taking a CB at #11. Dumb.

Taking Mckelvin over DRC. Insane.

Just goes to show you we aren't going anywhere until a new owner brings in a competent GM.

Yeah, it sure is pathetic to take the best CB available! (are you high?) WR would have been a reach at #11, they took the best guy available to fill another need that we have (CB). What is wrong with that? McKelvin is a much more polished guy and has the ability to be a shut down CB.

This is a great pick

[Michael82]

Yeah, it sure is pathetic to take the best CB available! (are you high?) WR would have been a reach at #11, they took the best guy available to fill another need that we have (CB). What is wrong with that? McKelvin is a much more polished guy and has the ability to be a shut down CB.

This is a great pick
Plus they still got the big WR that they wanted in the 2nd round. Good post! :bf1:

[YardRat]

I was OK with the pick at first, admittedly not thrilled though. The fact that the WR's dropped completely out of the first round and several were thre to choose from in the second helped smooth that over though.

Day one is over, we got the generally perceived best corner in the draft and a big WR, so it can't be that bad.

[Confused]

And under 6' too. Smooth one.

They'd better hope James Hardy falls...

kaaazzzaaaam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!