OFFICIAL NFL DRAFT THREAD: DAY TWO

[LifetimeBillsFan]

I didn't see one started already, so I decided to get things going.

I'm psyched about the Bills' first two picks and can't wait to see how things go from here. Should be interesting with the players that are still on the board!

[YardRat]

TE, C, D-line, and FB, please and thank you.

[YardRat]

And another receiver and corner, if possible.

[!Papacrunk!]

I can't wait to see what Miami does with the 1st pick on day two. I would be really happy if they stay put and do a BPA, or if they trade it for more picks, since some teams may scramble to pick some day 2 people that may have projected to go day one.

[shelby]

What time do they start today, noon?

[kernowboy]

With Long and Henne on board what are the odds of them taking Manningham?

[Romes]

What time do they start today, noon?

10 am.

[shelby]

Thanks!
i'll miss a big chunk of it, but i'll watch while i can.

[The Spaz]

10 am.

10? I thought it was 11. Oh well it's cool I hope it starts earlier.

[!Papacrunk!]

With Long and Henne on board what are the odds of them taking Manningham?

lol, it makes ya wonder.

[hydro]

Dolphins trade their 3rd round pick to Lions. So the Lions will be starting off day 2.

[Michael82]

They start at 10am...Sweet! I didn't know it was that early. :jig: Only a few minutes away! :drool:

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Hi, all!

Are you ready for some FOOTBALL?!?!

(Well, as much football as we're going to get until the OTAs....)

[LifetimeBillsFan]

The Lions start us out with Kevin Smith according to Schefter

[LifetimeBillsFan]

And, Smith it is.

[patmoran2006]

Great move by the Lions.

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Hi, Pat. Good to see you! What did you think of the Bills' picks yesterday?

[Michael82]

Great move by the Lions.
yeah they were desperate for a RB and Smith wasn't going to last much longer.

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Greco, OG from Toledo to the Rams.

Miami on the clock

[LifetimeBillsFan]

K.Langford, DT/DE from Hampton To Miami

[Michael82]

All the best available players left from yesterday are still sitting there.... :pray:

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Carolina takes C.Godfrey, CB, Iowa

[kernowboy]

Greco can also play LT

Langford clearly considered a 3-4 End by the Fins

[gil]

Just to put this in the thread because I was looking for it too - Bills Day Two pick slots (please let me know if I got something wrong):

Rd. 3

72

Rd. 4

114

132

Rd. 5

147

Rd. 6

179

Rd. 7

219

224

251

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Atlanta goes with Chevis Jackson, CB, LSU

[shelby]

i am literally twitching with anticipation here....

Atlanta selects Chevis Jackson, CB

[kernowboy]

We have 3 R7 picks - 219 224 and 251

[Michael82]

We are almost there.... :D

[Michael82]

We have 3 R7 picks - 219 224 and 251
yeah, one for Spikes/Holcomb, plus our pick and a compensatory pick. I hope they use those late round picks and package them to move back into the 3rd for another good player.

[gil]

We have 3 R7 picks - 219 224 and 251

thanks! fixed it.

[Michael82]

Oh man, it's so nice to have a Buffalo Bills draft show again. I missed Jimmy B. :snicker:

[LifetimeBillsFan]

And, New England trades the pick to SD

[gil]

And, New England trades the pick to SD

wow, they seem like unlikely trading partners.

[Michael82]

Wow! The first FB is gone. Looks like the Chargers wanted to replace their former stud blocker.

[LifetimeBillsFan]

San Diego goes with Jacob Hester, FB, LSU

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Da Bears select Earl Bennett, WR, Vandy

One more until the Bills are up.

[patmoran2006]

One pick to go.. and then we're up.

I hope its Finley or Connor.

[Romes]

for the love of god people, stop trading with the pats...

[Romes]

Chargers gave the pats a 5th rounder this year and a 2nd rounder next year!

[Michael82]

Chargers gave the pats a 5th rounder this year and a 2nd rounder next year!
What!?!? what the hell are they thinking? :mad:

[LifetimeBillsFan]

The Ravens go with Tavares Gooden, LB, Miami

Hey, is anyone out there or is everyone still asleep???

[Dr. Lecter]

San Deigo takes Jacob Hester.

I hate them.

[Michael82]

Alright...it's time.... What about Early Doucet here? Would anyone complain? I wouldn't. :drool:

[patmoran2006]

Bills on clock!
Connor still there, so is Finley.

But I see them going safety or center here.

I'm going to with the center from Arizona STate (I think)

[Michael82]

San Deigo takes Jacob Hester.

I hate them.
We wouldn't have taken a FB this early.

[patmoran2006]

Take the top ****ing center!

[LifetimeBillsFan]

And, the Bills take...Chris Ellis DE UVa

[Michael82]

Chris Ellis. Not bad. :up:

[djjimkelly]

chris ellis DE

[Scumbag College]

Love the Chris Ellis pick!!!!

[Luisito23]

CHRIS ELLIS!!!...Nice pick!!!

[patmoran2006]

Chris Ellis, DE.

Surprised there.

[Dr. Lecter]

The DE has been selected. Chris Ellis from Va. tech.

[Captain gameboy]

And, the Bills take...Chris Ellis DE UVa

Tech.. Not UVA.. Big dif.

[Dr. Lecter]

Take the top ****ing center!

Take the BPA. Don't reach.

[kernowboy]

I can live with this pick. Not the way I'd go but provides depth behind Schobel

[Ingtar33]

Chris Ellis, good pick.

can't argue with it.

probably the highest upside of the players left.

[Romes]

another good pick! Tatonka is gonna be happy

[LifetimeBillsFan]

KC takes J.Charles, RB, Texas

[Michael82]

Finally we got a DE that isn't white. :snicker:

I love the pick. Nice pick that fills a need, as our DE depth is pretty shaky. :up:

[shelby]

i like it!

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Sorry, got the school wrong

Ellis is a solid choice and could develop into a player--which he won't have to be called on to be immediately because he will spot behind Schobel and Kelsay, two high-motor guys who should help him develop

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Carolina takes Connor

[Nighthawk]

Everything I hear about this guy is good. He has all the tools, just needs to put it all together. We needed a DE and he's a good one.

[Philagape]

Panthers take Connor

[patmoran2006]

GREAT pick for the Panters.

[LifetimeBillsFan]

SF goes with R.Smith, DB, Okla

[LifetimeBillsFan]

KC takes B.Cottam, TE, Tenn

[patmoran2006]

Grrrrr

[FlyingDutchman]

Now we gotta go Offense hard! Kellen Davis and Owen Schmitt!

[MikeInRoch]

Finally we got a DE that isn't white. :snicker:

Awwww, crap. You know what that means - he doesn't have a high motor.

[LifetimeBillsFan]

I wouldn't necessarily have gone with a DE at the spot the Bills did, but IMHO that was another solid pick at a position of need and it's hard to argue with it. From what they just showed on ESPN and NFL Network, C.Ellis looks like he has some ability. And, he'll have time to develop with the Bills

[Dr. Lecter]

KC takes B.Cottam, TE, Tenn

Crap.

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Cincy takes Pat Sims, DT, Auburn

[!Papacrunk!]

really late to get back to the party here, but I'm glad our defense has gotten dramatically younger this off season. Two defensive ends that should respond well to the 3-4 and we got another pick to move down 2 whole spots. sounds good to me!

[LifetimeBillsFan]

And, New England selects Shawn Crable, LB, Mich

[Scumbag College]

Crable is a good fit for the Pats, looks to be a 3-4 OLB.

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Anyone care that Houston has taken Antuan Molden, CB, E.Ky?

[LifetimeBillsFan]

PHILLY goes with speed in Bryan Smith, LB, McNeese St

[Michael82]

Awwww, crap. You know what that means - he doesn't have a high motor.
:rofl: I'll miss the high motor.

[LtFinFan66]

there goes Early

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Doucet to Arizona

[Philagape]

Doucet, great pick for the Cards

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Arizona won't miss Bryant Johnson a bit with Doucet.

[LifetimeBillsFan]

KC takes DaJuan Morgan, S, NC St

[Michael82]

Arizona won't miss Bryant Johnson a bit with Doucet.
nope, that was a great pick for them. :up:

[patmoran2006]

I think the Bills may make a move before pick 114

[LifetimeBillsFan]

The Bucs go for J.Zuttah, OG, Rutgers

[Michael82]

The Bucs go for J.Zuttah, OG, Rutgers
damn. :mad:

[LifetimeBillsFan]

ATL takes Harry Douglas, WR, Louisville

[Michael82]

I think the Bills may make a move before pick 114
I was thinking the same thing. They have a lot of late round picks that won't amount to much, last year we cut our 7th rounder. I'd try to package some of them to move back into the 3rd and get the TE we need.

[LifetimeBillsFan]

I was thinking the same thing. They have a lot of late round picks that won't amount to much, last year we cut our 7th rounder. I'd try to package some of them to move back into the 3rd and get the TE we need.

That's what I would do, too.

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Tenn. takes C.Stevens, TE, Cal

The Bills liked him

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Gotta make that move for a TE pretty soon now, IMHO

[Dr. Lecter]

Tenn. takes C.Stevens, TE, Cal

The Bills liked him

I think the Bills are aiming for Kellen Davis.

[Luisito23]

damn. :mad:

:pet: We still have a better draft so far, and I agree that we are gonna trade up before our pick...:hi5:

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Ravens take T.Zbikowski, S, ND

Well, they're in even better shape now if a fight breaks out before a game

[hydro]

I think the Bills are aiming for Kellen Davis.

I wouldn't mind that at all. Or Rucker or Finley...

[kernowboy]

I think the way players are falling we could end up with the possibility of R7 selections on the roster. I'm still mad we didn't pick up Brandon Siler last year.

[kernowboy]

I wouldn't mind that at all. Or Rucker or Finley...

or Tom Santi, Virginia

[LifetimeBillsFan]

De-t-wah-t selects Andre Fluellen, DT, Fla St

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Pitt goes with Bruce Davis, DE/LB UCLA

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Texans take S.Slaton, RB, WVU

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Good pick for them. Very similar to the little RB, Davis?, that they had a couple of years ago. Speed to burn in space

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Chi takes M.Harrison, DT, Ark

[JerseyBoofaloBills]

im gonna feel like an idiot..but i was at the mets game the entire first roound of the draft an havent like seen trades, do we have a 3rd?

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Hey, did everyone go to church or something? If I'm going to be the only one posting on this thread, I'll just sit and watch the draft and post stuff on the main board....

[Michael82]

Hey, did everyone go to church or something? If I'm going to be the only one posting on this thread, I'll just sit and watch the draft and post stuff on the main board....
No, keep posting. It's nice to get the update. :up:

[LtFinFan66]

Hey, did everyone go to church or something? If I'm going to be the only one posting on this thread, I'll just sit and watch the draft and post stuff on the main board....We just like watching you talk to yourself

[Luisito23]

NOOO...Titans!

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Well, I could use some help with posting the picks at some point. I've been up all night writing an article for the front page and my wrists are starting to kill me.

DAMN, GB takes J.Finley, TE, Texas

[Dr. Lecter]

I am also doing laundry and cleaning as well as watching the draft in one room and posting in this room.

My wireless is not working correctly.

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Dallas trades the pick to Detroit

[Luisito23]

Basically all the good TE's are gone, and at this point I'd wait and take Schmitt...:madcurse: Titans...

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Detroit takes C.Avril, DE/LB, Purdue

[LtFinFan66]

Lions take: Avril

[hydro]

Lions take Cliff Avril DE

[ParanoidAndroid]

Finley is gone....:down:

[LtFinFan66]

Detroit takes C.Avril, DE/LB, Purduehow the **** do you post so quick

[Dr. Lecter]

Basically all the good TE's are gone, and at this point I'd wait and take Schmitt...:madcurse: Titans...

Rucker and Kellen Davis are left.

[Luisito23]

Rucker and Kellen Davis are left.


Thank you Doc...I don't know what I was watching, but :madcurse: the Titans anyways!

[Michael82]

Detroit takes C.Avril, DE/LB, Purdue
damn good pick. I'm surprised he fell this far.

[LifetimeBillsFan]

The price for trading up at this point in the draft is stiff. Detroit had to give up a 4th in next year's draft to move up to Dallas' spot.

No wonder the Bills have been sitting still. They don't want to mortgage the future and a 6th or 7th round pick isn't enough to get a deal done

The Colts go with Wheeler, LB, Ga Tech

[Luisito23]

I don't like Rucker though...

[LifetimeBillsFan]

how the **** do you post so quick

Fill in the team name in the Quick Reply box and then wait until the selection comes up on either ESPN or NFL Network--I have both on side-by-side

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Pats take.K.O'Connell, QB, SD St.

[ParanoidAndroid]

Jacob Tamme wouldn't be an awful pick later on. He's a good receiver and apparently can long snap as well. How well he can long snap, I don't know.

[LtFinFan66]

Fill in the team name in the Quick Reply box and then wait until the selection comes up on either ESPN or NFL Network--I have both on side-by-sideI did and only typed Avrils last name and you still beat me

[kernowboy]

Pats take.K.O'Connell, QB, SD St.

ahead of Joe Johnson and Andre Woodson? Wow

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Giants take Mario Manningham, WR, Mich.

Welcome to smoke city MM...!

[Philagape]

Pats take.K.O'Connell, QB, SD St.

The channel 2 weather guy? Probably not very mobile, but he'll be hard to bring down!

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Washington takes Chad Rinehart, N.Iowa

[LifetimeBillsFan]

The channel 2 weather guy? Probably not very mobile, but he'll be hard to bring down!

You mean there is a guy on TV in Buffalo who's got the same name as a street in the First Ward? Hmm...brings back memories....

[hydro]

The channel 2 weather guy? Probably not very mobile, but
he'll be hard to bring down!

:rofl: x 10

[patmoran2006]

I REALLY wanted Finley.

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Cincy took Andre Caldwell, WR, Florida

Think they're getting ready to part company with Chad?

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Hey, can someone take over posting the picks? I've got to take a break for awhile.

brb

[Michael82]

Cincy took Andre Caldwell, WR, Florida

Think they're getting ready to part company with Chad?
nope, but they need someone for when Chad sits on the bench. :snicker:

[ParanoidAndroid]

I wanted Caldwell :sad:

[kernowboy]

two CBs in R4 - Branch to the Raiders, King to the Rams

[Dr. Lecter]

Thomas DeCoud (S, Cal), Oneil Cousins (G- UTEP), Jeremy Thompson (DE - Wake), William Hayes (DE - Winston-Salem), Beau Bell (ILB - UNLV), and Wiliam Franklin (WR - Missouri) are all gone as well.

[kernowboy]

Jets take Jeremy Thompson DE

[kernowboy]

and the Redskins trade with the Falcons for William Hayes DE

[Dr. Lecter]

Marcus Smith (WR - New Mexico) and Cody Wallace (C - Texa A&M) are gone as well as Kory Lichtensteiger (C- Bowling Green)

[Michael82]

Marcus Smith (WR - New Mexico) and Cody Wallace (C - Texa A&M) are gone as well as Kory Lichtensteiger (C- Bowling Green)
damn. I really wanted one of the top Centers here. :mad:

[Michael82]

4 picks away....who's still there? :scratch:

[Michael82]

Miami selects Shawn Murphy OG/Utah State

[LifetimeBillsFan]

damn. I really wanted one of the top Centers here. :mad:

Me, too. I was hoping one of them would fall into the 5th round for the Bills. Oh, well....

[Michael82]

Me, too. I was hoping one of them would fall into the 5th round for the Bills. Oh, well....
yeah, I'm a little surprised that they all went at once. Oh well....another year with that crappy Fowler as the starter. oh boy! We get to watch him get pushed back into the RB again. :sigh:

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Damn! The Browns took Rucker!!!

[Michael82]

**** **** ****!!! :mad:


Rucker is gone. Damn you, Cleveland! :curse:

[Dr. Lecter]

Steve Justice is still available.

[Michael82]

Okay....Kellen Davis...here he comes... :pray:

[kernowboy]

consider the talent left, Kellen Davis is a reach

[Michael82]

consider the talent left, Kellen Davis is a reach
true. One of those OL would be better at this spot.

[!Papacrunk!]

really glad Miami selected a guard so now maybe they can use their last three picks and pick up a WR/RB or I guess BPA

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Cleveland gave Dallas a 3rd round pick next year to take Rucker. Must have figured the Bills would take him, if they didn't. ARRRGGHH!

[Michael82]

Chris Brown likes Kellen Davis....

Shame that C Wallace is off board

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</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>SHAME THAT WALLACE WAS OFF BOARD: I think the Bills would have given strong consideration to Texas A&M center Cody Wallace had he been there at 114. He was one of the few centers that projects to be able to hold up inside against DTs. Maybe not right now, but has the frame to be about 310 pounds in a couple of years. Not much left at center. I do like TE Kellen Davis at Michigan State. I think he's a good pick if he's still there at 114.
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[Michael82]

Cleveland gave Dallas a 3rd round pick next year to take Rucker. Must have figured the Bills would take him, if they didn't. ARRRGGHH!
wow! That's crazy! It really costs too much to trade up right now. There's still too much good talent. :ill:

[kernowboy]

a DT like Bryant or Moore, a Fb like Schmitt, even a QB like Johnson or Woodson would be better value

[Tatonka]

kellen davis and owen schmidt in the 4th.

:up:

[Michael82]

kellen davis and owen schmidt in the 4th.

:up:
That would be nice! :up:

[BillsNick]

Sweet, we better take Davis!

[soapman]

Come on John David Booty!

[Michael82]

a DT like Bryant or Moore, a Fb like Schmitt, even a QB like Johnson or Woodson would be better value
Moore would be a good value pick here. I'm surprised he is still there. I like Schmitt here too. Unless they want to wait til the comp pick for him....

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Sorry, but I have to take K.Davis at this spot if I'm making the pick for the Bills. He's the last true TE on the board, unless you like Barnidge or Tamme.

[Nighthawk]

They NEED to grab Davis NOW!

[LifetimeBillsFan]

a DT like Bryant or Moore, a Fb like Schmitt, even a QB like Johnson or Woodson would be better value

Bryant might drop to the bottom of this round and I'd try to catch him there

[Michael82]

Sorry, but I have to take K.Davis at this spot if I'm making the pick for the Bills. He's the last true TE on the board, unless you like Barnidge or Tamme.
He's the one I want the most right now. There's no TEs left in the draft after him, and there's no TE's in Buffalo now. :ill: I wish they traded up, I would have preferred Bennett.

[Michael82]

Come on Modrak....take DAVIS!!! :pray:

[LABillsFan]

Corner?

[kernowboy]

Our first dumb selection and wasted pick

A 5ft9 cornerback from Akron, Reggie Corner

[LifetimeBillsFan]

And, the Bills take...Reggie Corner, CB, Akron WTF!?!?!?

[Michael82]

Figures....a ****ing cornerback!?!?

What about our pathetic OFFENSE??? :mad: :curse:

:puke:

[soapman]

Wow

[SpillerThrills]

Another ***** corner!!!!! do they not realize we have NO TE?????

[Nighthawk]

Horrible pick...we DON'T need another CB!!!!! We have ZERO TEs on this team...WTF!?!?

[MikeInRoch]

It always amuses me when people get ticked off at a pick. Like they know more than our front office.

[BillsNick]

WTF??!!?

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Where in hell did that pick come from? (No need for anyone to answer that question!)

[Michael82]

who the **** is he? I don't even see the damn guy listed in DB's draft guide. :ill:

What a horrible pick! :mad:

[kernowboy]

Awful, awful, awful. Probably won't make the roster.

[Nighthawk]

This is where this organization really fails...late in drafts. They have not really been good late in drafts lately. It looks like they try to be smarter than everybody else and in the end, they look dumber.

[Scumbag College]

Corner? Huh? Another small CB? We only have 7 of those on the roster now. I hate this pick, it is a waste of a pick...

This guy will be a 5th CB at best this year. The Bills had the potential to get a backup OL, LB, or even a number 2 TE. I just don't get this one at all.

[BillsNick]

Unbelievable

[Tatonka]

this is a real tough pick to get excited about.. another really small corner.. yah!

[Michael82]

Horrible pick...we DON'T need another CB!!!!! We have ZERO TEs on this team...WTF!?!?
Tell me about it.... Davis better be there for our comp pick or I will be really pissed off. :mad:

[!Papacrunk!]

well....at least he has the word corner in his name for whatever that's worth

[Nighthawk]

It always amuses me when people get ticked off at a pick. Like they know more than our front office.

Yeah, because our front office has been great and we've been in the playoffs lately. :coocoo:

[Michael82]

It's always good when we draft a guy in the 4th round that no one has even heard of.... :ill:

[Nighthawk]

Tell me about it.... Davis better be there for our comp pick or I will be really pissed off. :mad:

Can somebody please explain to me why this team is not loading up on offense late in this draft? The Bills do understand that our offense has sucked for about 7 years...don't they?

[MikeInRoch]

Yeah, because our front office has been great and we've been in the playoffs lately. :coocoo:

And yet, they STILL know more than you do.

[LABillsFan]

I don't understand the pick, maybe there is a trade coming, maybe they feel a TE will be there at 33. Let's see.

[kernowboy]

and Tampa take Dre Moore who would have been 10x more useful

[JPFBillsFan]

Special Teams pick and depth.....this guy has Bobby April

[Dr. Lecter]

This is where this organization really fails...late in drafts. They have not really been good late in drafts lately. It looks like they try to be smarter than everybody else and in the end, they look dumber.

Huh?

Keith Ellison. Kyle Williams. Derek Schouman.

I would not say that is failing.

[Michael82]

Can somebody please explain to me why this team is not loading up on offense late in this draft? The Bills do understand that our offense has sucked for about 7 years...don't they?
I don't understand it either. Our offense has been pathetic and needed help. Plus we have spent a lot of time and money on building the defense. Why do we need 2 CBs? We already got McGee, Greer, and McKelvin, plus Will James and ****ing Ashton Youboty! Now Corner? Who's the odd man odd? why the hell are we wasting a 4th round pick? we need those guys to develop into talented guys. :ill: :mad:

[Michael82]

and Tampa take Dre Moore who would have been 10x more useful
Yeah, tell me about it. :sigh:

[Dr. Lecter]

I don't understand it either. Our offense has been pathetic and needed help. Plus we have spent a lot of time and money on building the defense. Why do we need 2 CBs? We already got McGee, Greer, and McKelvin, plus Will James and ****ing Ashton Youboty! Now Corner? Who's the odd man odd? why the hell are we wasting a 4th round pick? we need those guys to develop into talented guys. :ill: :mad:

As you get later in the draft you do NOT draft for positional need.

I don't know how else to say it.

Hell, the Patriots took a Quarterback.

You take the player you have ranked the highest.

[BillsNick]

They must know something that we don't. Like Corner's got some kind of super powers or something

[LtFinFan66]

As you get later in the draft you do NOT draft for positional need.

I don't know how else to say it.

Hell, the Patriots took a Quarterback.

You take the player you have ranked the highest.and you think this Corner guy was their highest rated guy

[Dr. Lecter]

and you think this Corner guy was their highest rated guy

They have been pretty clear they are sticking to their board.

I am not going to freak out and panic over a 4th round pick.

[Michael82]

Here's a couple pictures of him....

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0bC4f9ef7ud8h/340x.jpg

http://media.ohio.com/images/OSU_Zips_01.jpg

[kernowboy]

I'm going to get angry when we stick so rigidly to the board we miss players who slide and might not be on the board as we never expected them to be there.

[Michael82]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/102/253091248_14837a44d5.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/83/253091294_0e1d47919c.jpg

[LtFinFan66]

Here's a couple pictures of him....

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0bC4f9ef7ud8h/340x.jpg

http://media.ohio.com/images/OSU_Zips_01.jpgOf course you found pics of him against my Buckeyes

[LtFinFan66]

They have been pretty clear they are sticking to their board.

I am not going to freak out and panic over a 4th round pick.But NFLN says you should be drafting starters in the 4th so perhaps you should fret

[Michael82]

As you get later in the draft you do NOT draft for positional need.

I don't know how else to say it.

Hell, the Patriots took a Quarterback.

You take the player you have ranked the highest.
If they ranked him the highest, a guy that no one else had going drafted...then I want what they are smoking. It's crazy!

[BillsNick]

He has super powers

[Romes]

McGee was a 4th round 5'9'' CB...just sayin...

[Michael82]

and you think this Corner guy was their highest rated guy
Exactly! I find it hard to believe that this guy is the highest on their list. It looks to me like they wanted another CB for some dumbass reason and liked this guy. I don't understand it, but I also don't get paid the big buck for making these decisions.

[Nighthawk]

Huh?

Keith Ellison. Kyle Williams. Derek Schouman.

I would not say that is failing.

Umm, you do understand that all of those guys suck...right? Williams is an OK backup, but the other are mediocre at best.

[Michael82]

Here's what NFL.com says about him....



Analysis
Positives: Compactly built athlete with good, lean muscle definition...Stays tight with receivers on deep routes and has good play development recognition skills...Has a good feel for the ball, maintaining eye contact on the receiver while tracking the ball in flight...Keeps a tight relationship with the receiver in the open and can cover ground with his closing burst...Shows good knee bend and a smooth, easy turning motion coming out of his backpedal...Takes good angles towards the ball and makes proper body adjustments turning and flexing for the pass, demonstrating natural hands and above average timing to high point the ball...Shows fluid hip turn and quick feet coming out of his backpedal... Makes proper zone adjustments and anticipates the quarterback's moves well, as he can handle the switch-off effortlessly...Has the hip snap and body control to position himself before delivering the hit...Has the burst to recover on deep routes...Gets a sharp break on the ball and is flexible in his hip turn and compensates for a lack of ideal height with good quickness and ball anticipation skills...Stays low in his pads and extends his arms to wrap and secure as a tackle (lacks strength behind his hits, though)...Shows natural hands, extending and plucking the ball away from the body's framework...Has the field vision to keep track of the ball in flight.


Negatives: Size is a big drawback, but he compensates with good aggression and the timing to go up and snatch the ball out of the receiver's hands...Lacks ideal power for run support, but even though he is willing to face up, he does not have the strong anchor to prevent ballcarriers from running through his arm tackles...Sometimes gets a little too aggressive, causing him to over-pursue, but shows the recovery quickness needed to get back into the play...Gets so pass theft conscious that he will play the ball a little too much, tending to lose sight of the receiver at times...Reaches back on his heels sometimes when turning in his backpedal...Has to show better shadow ability when handling the receiver, but flashes quickness to recover...Needs to become more physical with the receivers in press coverage.


Compares To: TIM JENNINGS-Indianapolis...Corner won't ever be confused for a Charles Woodson when it comes to taking on running backs, but he does provide great value in a sub package because of his natural hands and ability to get to the ball in flight. His best asset is his ball skills, as he times his leaps well to ride up on a receiver to deflect or pick the ball off. His size is a big drawback and will probably keep him out of the starting lineup, but few cornerbacks have the ability to reach and pluck the ball like he does.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/reggie-corner?id=4451

[TigerJ]

Well, there will be no doubt what position he plays, once you see his jersey.

[Nighthawk]

As you get later in the draft you do NOT draft for positional need.

I don't know how else to say it.

Hell, the Patriots took a Quarterback.

You take the player you have ranked the highest.

Seriously, if this guy was the highest rated guy on the Bills board then I now know why we haven't seen the playoffs in 10 years and always suck every year.

[Michael82]

Seriously, if this guy was the highest rated guy on the Bills board then I now know why we haven't seen the playoffs in 10 years and always suck every year.
:rofl:

[Bone]

Quit your *****ing.

[Michael82]

I will say this....it looks like the Ashton Youboty project is over. He'll probably be the odd man out. I'll also add this....This CB Corner would have been available for our 6th round pick. But hey, he was high on our list! :ill:

[Michael82]

Quit your *****ing.
it's too fun for him. :snicker:

[TigerJ]

Here's what I'm thinking. The Bills have been accused of sticking to close to their list of needs, but I think it can be argued that center and tight end are higher on their list of needs than a second CB. It hink it is a case Buffalo believing they have uncovered a gem that others have overlooked. Corner is not terribly speedy, but he's fast enough. CouchScout.com, the only place where I could find numbers on him says he runs a 4.52 40. He had a pro day, but I don't know if 4.52 represents his pro day numbers or somebody's guess. He's not terribly big, but he obviously has a nose for the interception. I'm not defending the pick, just saying that sometimes a team's personnel department has entirely different ideas about a player's value than the consensus on the street. Sometimes it makes them look like fools, and sometimes they look like geniuses. Only time will tell which is the case with corner.

I don't think Ashton Youboty is automatically out. The Bills have already dumped several CBs before picking up Will James, and drafting McKelvin and Corner. I think the only holdovers were Youboty, Greer and McGee. I expect the Bills will probably carry five CBs. It does put Youboty on notice that he's got competition and better perform, or he could be out come September.

[kernowboy]

I think I will be seriously annoyed if they take another reach with the supp pick.

A solid selection like Schmitt will be ok

The pick reminds me of last years selection of Dwayne Wright which was fairly dumb.

[LABillsFan]

It seemed like Corner held his own. He sounds mature, communicated well studies the game.

[Michael82]

Here's what I'm thinking. The Bills have been accused of sticking to close to their list of needs, but I think it can be argued that center and tight end are higher on their list of needs than a second CB. It hink it is a case Buffalo believing they have uncovered a gem that others have overlooked. Corner is not terribly speedy, but he's fast enough. CouchScout.com, the only place where I could find numbers on him says he runs a 4.52 40. He had a pro day, but I don't know if 4.52 represents his pro day numbers or somebody's guess. He's not terribly big, but he obviously has a nose for the interception. I'm not defending the pick, just saying that sometimes a team's personnel department has entirely different ideas about a player's value than the consensus on the street. Sometimes it makes them look like fools, and sometimes they look like geniuses. Only time will tell which is the case with corner.

I don't think Ashton Youboty is automatically out. The Bills have already dumped several CBs before picking up Will James, and drafting McKelvin and Corner. I think the only holdovers were Youboty, Greer and McGee. I expect the Bills will probably carry five CBs. It does put Youboty on notice that he's got competition and better perform, or he could be out come September.
I hope they are right. Apparently he wasn't invited to the Combine and Modrak loved him anyways. He was surprised that he wasn't invited, and he knew that he wasn't on many draft lists. But they had him high on their list.

[Michael82]

I think I will be seriously annoyed if they take another reach with the supp pick.

A solid selection like Schmitt will be ok

The pick reminds me of last years selection of Dwayne Wright which was fairly dumb.
That's exactly what I thought of. Last year, we took Lynch in the 1st round...but we loved Dwayne Wright, so we grabbed him even though we didn't need him in the 4th round.

[BillsNick]

Why hasn't Davis been picked yet?

[LABillsFan]

14 picks since the Bills made there selection and Indy is the only one to take a TE, Tamme. It seems that not every team is high on the TE's this late in the draft.

[Illmatic15]

We HAVE to draft Kellen Davis(TE from mich st), he is the best player available and is a need!

[Marvelous]

Did we tarde back into the 4th? or did we have two 4th rounders?
I see we are up for pick 132... woot....

[LABillsFan]

Supp pick

[kernowboy]

Why hasn't Davis been picked yet?

Because he is lazy, disinterested, doesn't play to his potential and has a raft of Character issues (as in multiple) rather than one or two

[Nighthawk]

I think I will be seriously annoyed if they take another reach with the supp pick.

A solid selection like Schmitt will be ok

The pick reminds me of last years selection of Dwayne Wright which was fairly dumb.

This team makes really dumb decisions as the draft goes on. It seems to happen every year.

[LABillsFan]

2 picks to go and only 1 TE picked, It makes me think there are better options. I know the Bills need a TE, but this far down the draft, how big of an impact will he have this year? Grab a Center or an Oline man.

[Don't Panic]

Justice? Shmitt? Davis? Any of the 3 would fill a need...

[Michael82]

2 picks to go and only 1 TE picked, It makes me think there are better options. I know the Bills need a TE, but this far down the draft, how big of an impact will he have this year? Grab a Center or an Oline man.
Sullivan is still available...isn't he?

[LABillsFan]

He is

[Michael82]

uh oh, the Eagles took a CB. Modrak must be getting nervous. :snicker:

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Well, now what?

[Michael82]

I bet we'll go with a QB! :ill:

[Michael82]

nice the commercials are done right in time for our pick! :up:

[LifetimeBillsFan]

The pick is in and the Bills take Derek Fine, TE, Kansas

[Michael82]

We finally got a TE! Derek Fine??? Who the hell is he? :scratch:

[Don't Panic]

H Back:

Strengths: Hybrid capable of lining up at both the tight end and fullback position. Quick off the ball and able to avoid contact working against press coverage. Does a good job of selling the run and gets into the flats quickly off play action. Smooth, runs clean routes and is at best getting open underneath. Has a wide frame and does a nice job of using his body to shield defenders from the ball. Possesses an understanding of how to attack defenders and set up breaks. Appears to read defenses well and does a nice job of finding open areas working against zone coverage. Gives great effort as an in-line blocker and is relentless once in position. Takes sound angles to blocks, flashes the ability to adjust to the moving target in space and can get into position at the second level. Is as effective lead blocking from the backfield as he is lined up at tight end and is somewhat versatile.

Weaknesses: Lacks top-end speed and isn't going to stretch the middle of the field. Lacks the overall strength to consistently sustain blocks, loses balance at times and is seen on the ground a lot. Does not have great body control and struggles to adjust to passes thrown outside frame.

Overall: Fine signed with Kansas in 2002 but didn't enroll because of an injury. After redshirting the 2003 season, he played in all 35 of the Jayhawks' games (19 starts) over the next three years (2004-06'), collecting 52 receptions for 615 yards (11.8 average) and six touchdowns. Fine played in all 13 games (10 starts) as a senior, hauling in 46 catches for 394 yards (8.6 average) and four touchdowns. He also was a productive contributor on special teams coverage units during his career (11 tackles, 10 assists). Bottom line: Fine is versatile enough to provide depth for a team that likes to use H-Backs but he doesn't have prototypical speed or power so he projects as a seventh round pick.

[LABillsFan]

Derek Fine? TE?

[LifetimeBillsFan]

I guess the problems with K.Davis must be pretty serious.

Fine, if I recall, is more of a blocking TE than a deep threat.

[Michael82]

I guess the problems with K.Davis must be pretty serious.

Fine, if I recall, is more of a blocking TE than a deep threat.
Just what we need.... :rolleyes:



:sigh:

[Nighthawk]

I guess the problems with K.Davis must be pretty serious.

Fine, if I recall, is more of a blocking TE than a deep threat.

Umm, why the hell would be draft a blocking TE? It's like this organization has no clue what this offense needs. Hopefully he has some talent.

[BillsNick]

:rolleyes:

[Marvelous]

I woulda rathered a pass catching FB at this point. But the board really insisted on a TE and got one :)
--What's our next pick? LB depth?

--What's happenin at 1BD today???

[Nighthawk]

Does anybody else think this organization is clueless?

[Michael82]

Here's a good picture of him.... :rofl:

http://www.phog.tv/images/ttech/ttech4.jpg