Most of the guys being drafted right now...

[Tatonka]

are guys that almost no one knows of and even less have seen play.

its not just bills player.

perspective.

[coastal]

tell yourself whatever you need to to make yourself feel better.

[The Spaz]

are guys that almost no one knows of and even less have seen play.

its not just bills player.

perspective.

Finally someone with some thought not just talking out of there ass.

[Nighthawk]

are guys that almost no one knows of and even less have seen play.

its not just bills player.

perspective.

I don't care what other teams do. All I know is that this organization is very bad at finding gems in the late rounds...PERIOD!

[Tatonka]

the only way you know they got a "good pick" is it is one of the 4 guys left in the entire draft that you have heard of.. lol.

[Nighthawk]

the only way you know they got a "good pick" is it is one of the 4 guys left in the entire draft that you have heard of.. lol.

No, the only way I know is if they actually turn out to be a good player on the field and that has NOT happened with this organization. The facts support my argument...there is no arguing it.

[Michael82]

You do have a point. There has been a lot of reaches in the last couple rounds. We aren't the only ones... :phew:

[Tatonka]

No, the only way I know is if they actually turn out to be a good player on the field and that has NOT happened with this organization. The facts support my argument...there is no arguing it.

there is fact about how our two 4th rounders have played on an nfl field already? damn.. that was the fastest minicamp in history!

:poop:

[ParanoidAndroid]

I don't remember seeing this many players still available in the 5th that multiple mocks had in the first 3 rounds. I love it!

[Nighthawk]

there is fact about how our two 4th rounders have played on an nfl field already? damn.. that was the fastest minicamp in history!

:poop:

Wow, reaching now...aren't we? You understood the point...

[Tatonka]

andy, stop it.. we are screwed no matter what! lol.

[Nighthawk]

I absolutely love when you have no facts to back up your arguement and start posting like a 2 year old. It's great.

[LtFinFan66]

:popcorn:

[Tatonka]

what facts do i need to respond to whining? what facts are you looking for?

the fact that no matter what the bills do people will whine? or the fact that most people know nothing about the players teh bills have drafted, but speak as if they do and assume it is a horrible pick? lol

[LtFinFan66]

This is some funny ****

[The Spaz]

what facts do i need to respond to whining? what facts are you looking for?

the fact that no matter what the bills do people will whine? or the fact that most people know nothing about the players teh bills have drafted, but speak as if they do and assume it is a horrible pick? lol

Don't you know the Bills mailed there draft guide to every fan and they are going way off there draft board....lol

[Nighthawk]

what facts do i need to respond to whining? what facts are you looking for?

It's not whining when it is backed by facts. All I want is this team to get better. I think they've grabbed some good pieces, but not grabbing more offensive players when our offense has sucked for so long, really bothers me. They did zero in FA to address it and it seems like they are too much in love with the mediocre TEs they picked up in Anderson and Johnson. Now that doesn't make any sense to me. They had the opportunity to grab a pass catching TE (Rucker) and chose to ignore the need for that type of player.

[The Spaz]

It's not whining when it is backed by facts. All I want is this team to get better. I think they've grabbed some good pieces, but not grabbing more offensive players when our offense has sucked for so long, really bothers me. They did zero in FA to address it and it seems like they are too much in love with the mediocre TEs they picked up in Anderson and Johnson. Now that doesn't make any sense to me. They had the opportunity to grab a pass catching TE (Rucker) and chose to ignore the need for that type of player.

Actually Rucker was picked before us.

[Tatonka]

ok

[Nighthawk]

Actually Rucker was picked before us.

No, he was there after the Bills picked in the 3rd and they could've move up to get him. Just like Cleveland did.

[The Spaz]

No, he was there after the Bills picked in the 3rd and they could've move up to get him. Just like Cleveland did.

Oh so the Bills were supposed to reach for a guy who they didn't value as a 3rd Rd. pick?

[Nighthawk]

Oh so the Bills were supposed to reach for a guy who they didn't value as a 3rd Rd. pick?

He was not a reach...Corner was a reach. Rucker was very productive and fit a need that this team has had for years...a pass catching TE. Nowhere near a reach to move back up into the late 3rd or early 4th to get him.

[The Spaz]

He was not a reach...Corner was a reach. Rucker was very productive and fit a need that this team has had for years...a pass catching TE. Nowhere near a reach to move back up into the late 3rd or early 4th to get him.

How do you know where the Bills had him valued?

[Nighthawk]

How do you know where the Bills had him valued?

Where the Bills have him ranked does not determine if he was a reach.

[Nighthawk]

Oh, my bad, you were talking about Corner. No, you might be right...they might have had him high on their board, but Rucker is better value to this team at that point.

[Marvelous]

The Corner & TE pick seemed like extreme reaches.. Esp the corner. And i woulda sworn that the Bills brass read this board and heard all the "we want a TE whining..... But this last LB pick atleast had a bio i could read in my draft mag...

--What about the DE pick? That's a day 2 pick that is going unmentioned.

[Nighthawk]

The Corner & TE pick seemed like extreme reaches.. Esp the corner. And i woulda sworn that the Bills brass read this board and heard all the "we want a TE whining..... But this last LB pick atleast had a bio i could read in my draft mag...

--What about the DE pick? That's a day 2 pick that is going unmentioned.

I actually love that pick. Ellis is a very good player and will give us some edge pass rushing help. Great value where he was picked.