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  • HHURRICANE
    Registered User
    • Mar 2005
    • 15490

    So you really like our draft?!

    The Bills got very, very lucky with their first two picks and I will take luck over skill any day of the week. After that I have to say that the Bills didn't impress me at all and makes me really think that our 2007 draft wasn't as good as people have preached:


    PickPlayerPosHtWtCollege

    Round 1Leodis McKelvinCB5'11"190Troy

    Great pick.


    Round 2James HardyWR6'6"220Indiana

    Great Pick.


    Round 3, Chris EllisDE6'4"260Virginia Tech


    Projected as a project with Special Teams capability.


    Round 4, Reggie CornerCB5'10"180Akron

    Didn't we just take a CB???
    Special Teams again!


    Round 4, Derek FineTE6'3"245Kansas


    Alex, I'll take Derek Schouman for $500. Special Teams again!!


    Round 5, Alvin BowenOLB6'1"223Iowa State

    Good pick. Nice LB depth from the 5th round.


    Round 6, Xavier OmonRB5'11"226Northwest Missouri State

    Alex, I'll take Wright for $300. Welcome to Special Teams.


    Round 7, Demetrius BellOT6'5"301Northwestern State (LA)

    It's the 7th. Welcome to the practice squad.


    Round 7, Steve JohnsonWR6'2"210Kentucky

    Don't spend your $20,000 all in one spot unless your good at special teams.


    Round 7, Kennard CoxCB6'0"195Pittsburgh
    Kennard, you had me at CB.
  • alohabillsfan
    Registered User
    • Sep 2003
    • 3206

    #2
    Re: So you really like our draft?!

    and yet another thread?

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    • HHURRICANE
      Registered User
      • Mar 2005
      • 15490

      #3
      Re: So you really like our draft?!

      Originally posted by alohabillsfan
      and yet another thread?
      Different format for discussion. You can post the "Bills draft was awesome and I have no complaints" thread.

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      • Jan Reimers
        Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
        • May 2003
        • 17353

        #4
        Re: So you really like our draft?!

        Round 3.) I think Ellis will be a good backup DE/situational pass rusher and heir apparent to Schobel.

        Round 4.) Corner isn't bad, but taking him with Dre Moore and others still on the board?

        Round 4.) Fine may be a good short yardage, zone pass catcher, but he's not the athletic, stretch-the-field TE most of us were looking for.

        Round 5.) Good OLB depth that we really need.

        Round 6.) Bills didn't seem happy with Wright. Omon may be a better short yardage back.

        Round 7.) Bell is an OL project and Cox a Safety project who are both good athletes and will both probably man the PS. Johnson looks like a good receiver who could be #5 on the roster.
        Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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        • Tatonka
          Registered User
          • Jul 2002
          • 21289

          #5
          Re: So you really like our draft?!

          pick 1 and 2 - agreed.. fills need and we got arguably the best at the position for our needs in this draft.

          pick 3 - im tired of debating this.. but one more time. chris long had one year of production and he warranted the 2nd overall pick. DE is a premium position. Ellis is a true DE and is a very good player. I speak from the knowledge of actually watching all of his games. he is perfect for what we need. a situation pass rusher that can come in for kelsay or schobel and has excellent speed off the edge. he is not a project and will contribute this year.

          pick 4 - i dont know enough about this guy to say he isnt an excellent corner or he sucks.. i know the team really loved him and that they clearly are not happy with youboty's underperforming "1st round talent" ass.. so they chose to upgrade. fine by me.

          pick 5 - i had never heard of Fine.. comparisons are to chris cooley.. if that is the case, i am 100% ok with the pick. yet to be determined.

          pick 6 - love the pick. love the attitude and fire, as well as athletic ability. potential to be a starter in a year or two, but will have immediate impact on special teams, which we desperately needed replacements on.

          pick 7 - Omon looks pretty incredible on film.. wright did nothing last year. does that mean omon will be great in the nfl and wright has no future? hell no.. but it does create more competition for a major position on our team. lynch WILL get hurt. he runs too reckless not to. we need good back ups.

          pick 8, 9, 10 - all are 7th rounders who may get cut and end up on the practice squad. they all have very good athletic ability and clearly our coaches are hoping to coach them into players. im fine with that for 7th rounders.


          overall.. i dont see what anyon has to cry about in this thread or the other 10 like it.
          "All hockey players are bilingual. They know English and profanity." ~ Gordie Howe

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          • alohabillsfan
            Registered User
            • Sep 2003
            • 3206

            #6
            Re: So you really like our draft?!

            The Buffalo Bills are ahead of the curve.....

            Nickel- 5 DB's
            Dime- 6 DB's
            Quarter-8 DB's Whatcha ya gonna do now Brady!!!!

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            • EDS
              Registered User
              • Jan 2003
              • 5216

              #7
              Re: So you really like our draft?!

              I liked the Bills draft with the exception of the 4th round.

              I love the Stroud acquisition but am a little concerned if he does not stay healthy and would have liked an upgrade to Kyle Williams.

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              • Mr. Miyagi
                Lecter's Little *****

                • Sep 2002
                • 53616

                #8
                Re: So you really like our draft?!

                Originally posted by Tatonka
                lynch WILL get hurt. he runs too reckless not to. we need good back ups.
                I think you're confusing Lynch with Adrian Peterson.

                Lynch does NOT run recklessly. I don't know what you've been watching.

                Omon is a good value pick at that point of the draft.

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                • DraftBoy
                  Administrator
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 107443

                  #9
                  Re: So you really like our draft?!

                  Originally posted by Mr. Miyagi
                  I think you're confusing Lynch with Adrian Peterson.

                  Lynch does NOT run recklessly. I don't know what you've been watching.

                  Omon is a good value pick at that point of the draft.

                  Lynch is a very reckless runner in the regards to he runs high and takes a lot of hits, especially in "Beast Mode". His running style is not at all conducive to a long NFL career, especially at RB.
                  COMING SOON...
                  Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                  We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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                  • EDS
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 5216

                    #10
                    Re: So you really like our draft?!

                    Originally posted by Mr. Miyagi
                    I think you're confusing Lynch with Adrian Peterson.

                    Lynch does NOT run recklessly. I don't know what you've been watching.

                    Omon is a good value pick at that point of the draft.
                    Marshawn doesn't run recklessly but he does absorb a ton of contact, which is why he could be susceptible to injury. Peterson on the other hand, has a more extensive injury history but does a lot of his damage in the open field because of his explosiveness.

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                    • bigbub2352
                      Registered User
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 5386

                      #11
                      Re: So you really like our draft?!

                      1st pick-Ledios Mckelvin- i think was good it is not everyday you can draft the top player in the country at there position.

                      2nd pick- James Hardy-Should pay huge dividens for us in the redzone, and i like his potential alot

                      3rd pick-Chris Ellis- I thought we should have gone TE here, i do realize we needed a number 4 DE, but thought it could have been addressed in the 4th, all in all should be Hargrove's replacement

                      4th pick- Reggie Corner-I thought this was our worst pick, we could have agian addressed TE, or FB i think we could have drafted this kid in the 7th round or maybe UDFA (Horrible Pick) We could have grabbed Dre Moore here as well

                      4th pick- Derek Fine- This is Derek Schouman pick all over it, anothe H-Back TE, i guess brass luvs Anderson and johnson, and Royal, i dont think this kid even makes the team to be honest (horrible pick) could have got him in the 7th rd or maybe UDFA

                      5th pick- Alvin Bowen- I like this pick alot and if he adds some bulk could be a heck of a player for us, ST will be a demon, and he has the speed to play in the Cover 2, we addressed a depth issue with this pick

                      6th pick-Xavier Omon- I am all for adding to O, and adding a sleeper RB sometimes pays huge dividens for teams, his production is unbelivable, and after watching film on him looks like a potential steal, I like this pick, and wouldnt mind going in to the season with Lynch, Wright, Jackson and this kid

                      7th pick- Demetrius Butler- Developmental Tackle and good value pick here, we needed depth at T, PS candidate

                      7th pick- Steve Johnson- Luv this pick, hopefully slowly inches REED out the door, watched highlights of him as well as watched him play in school, and think he is also a potential steal of the later rounds, has good size and speed and great hands was actually shocked he lasted this long

                      7th pick- Kernard Cox- Another bad selection in my opinion should have went FB or C here and ended up with a guy with size but too slow to play CB, another ST guy, and proally will be cionverted to S
                      XTRA CRISPY XTRA SAUCEY

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                      • HHURRICANE
                        Registered User
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 15490

                        #12
                        Re: So you really like our draft?!

                        Originally posted by bigbub2352
                        1st pick-Ledios Mckelvin- i think was good it is not everyday you can draft the top player in the country at there position.

                        2nd pick- James Hardy-Should pay huge dividens for us in the redzone, and i like his potential alot

                        3rd pick-Chris Ellis- I thought we should have gone TE here, i do realize we needed a number 4 DE, but thought it could have been addressed in the 4th, all in all should be Hargrove's replacement

                        4th pick- Reggie Corner-I thought this was our worst pick, we could have agian addressed TE, or FB i think we could have drafted this kid in the 7th round or maybe UDFA (Horrible Pick) We could have grabbed Dre Moore here as well

                        4th pick- Derek Fine- This is Derek Schouman pick all over it, anothe H-Back TE, i guess brass luvs Anderson and johnson, and Royal, i dont think this kid even makes the team to be honest (horrible pick) could have got him in the 7th rd or maybe UDFA

                        5th pick- Alvin Bowen- I like this pick alot and if he adds some bulk could be a heck of a player for us, ST will be a demon, and he has the speed to play in the Cover 2, we addressed a depth issue with this pick

                        6th pick-Xavier Omon- I am all for adding to O, and adding a sleeper RB sometimes pays huge dividens for teams, his production is unbelivable, and after watching film on him looks like a potential steal, I like this pick, and wouldnt mind going in to the season with Lynch, Wright, Jackson and this kid

                        7th pick- Demetrius Butler- Developmental Tackle and good value pick here, we needed depth at T, PS candidate

                        7th pick- Steve Johnson- Luv this pick, hopefully slowly inches REED out the door, watched highlights of him as well as watched him play in school, and think he is also a potential steal of the later rounds, has good size and speed and great hands was actually shocked he lasted this long

                        7th pick- Kernard Cox- Another bad selection in my opinion should have went FB or C here and ended up with a guy with size but too slow to play CB, another ST guy, and proally will be cionverted to S
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                        • SquishDaFish
                          Lets GO BUFFALO!!
                          • Jun 2005
                          • 17034

                          #13
                          Re: So you really like our draft?!

                          Your wrong about the 7th rounders bud. Sorry to burst your hater bubble

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                          • Goobylal
                            Registered User
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 19371

                            #14
                            Re: So you really like our draft?!

                            Originally posted by bigbub2352
                            1st pick-Ledios Mckelvin- i think was good it is not everyday you can draft the top player in the country at there position.

                            2nd pick- James Hardy-Should pay huge dividens for us in the redzone, and i like his potential alot

                            3rd pick-Chris Ellis- I thought we should have gone TE here, i do realize we needed a number 4 DE, but thought it could have been addressed in the 4th, all in all should be Hargrove's replacement

                            4th pick- Reggie Corner-I thought this was our worst pick, we could have agian addressed TE, or FB i think we could have drafted this kid in the 7th round or maybe UDFA (Horrible Pick) We could have grabbed Dre Moore here as well

                            4th pick- Derek Fine- This is Derek Schouman pick all over it, anothe H-Back TE, i guess brass luvs Anderson and johnson, and Royal, i dont think this kid even makes the team to be honest (horrible pick) could have got him in the 7th rd or maybe UDFA

                            5th pick- Alvin Bowen- I like this pick alot and if he adds some bulk could be a heck of a player for us, ST will be a demon, and he has the speed to play in the Cover 2, we addressed a depth issue with this pick

                            6th pick-Xavier Omon- I am all for adding to O, and adding a sleeper RB sometimes pays huge dividens for teams, his production is unbelivable, and after watching film on him looks like a potential steal, I like this pick, and wouldnt mind going in to the season with Lynch, Wright, Jackson and this kid

                            7th pick- Demetrius Butler- Developmental Tackle and good value pick here, we needed depth at T, PS candidate

                            7th pick- Steve Johnson- Luv this pick, hopefully slowly inches REED out the door, watched highlights of him as well as watched him play in school, and think he is also a potential steal of the later rounds, has good size and speed and great hands was actually shocked he lasted this long

                            7th pick- Kernard Cox- Another bad selection in my opinion should have went FB or C here and ended up with a guy with size but too slow to play CB, another ST guy, and proally will be cionverted to S
                            I mostly agree with the above, but I think that Ellis was great value where he was picked, so I was happy with his selection. A little bulk and refinement of his technique and he'll be a terror for opposing QB's. As for Fine, he'll be a TE who might not stretch the field, but he should move the chains. I agree that the Corner pick could have been better used on Dre Moore or DeMario Pressley (who went almost a full round later). I guess they figured they could use all the DB's they could get and that they had Stroud, McCargo, Johnson, and Williams at DT already. Cox was the penultimate player chosen so it makes little difference either way, as they could have gotten some other player (except for Mr. Irrelevant David Vobora) as an UDFA.

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                            • YardRat
                              Well, lookie here...
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 86323

                              #15
                              Re: So you really like our draft?!

                              I would've liked to get a center. Other than that, I like it.
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