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  • Dr. Lecter
    Zero for Zero!
    • Mar 2003
    • 67938

    Ellis will allow Bills to make waves at DE

    The No. 4 defensive end is an afterthought on many NFL teams.

    The Buffalo Bills showed Sunday how important they think that roster spot is when they invested their third-round pick on Virginia Tech defensive end Chris Ellis.

    The Bills could have drafted a tight end at that spot. They could have taken another Penn State linebacker, Dan Connor. There was a big defensive tackle, Auburn’s Pat Sims, still on the board.

    However, the Bills are more serious than ever about sending waves of pass rushers at the opposing quarterback in 2008.

    “I’ve always felt you have to have four,” Bills Vice President of College Scouting Tom Modrak said of pass rushing defensive ends. “You can live with three but four is better.”



    Also (at the end)

    Eight of the Bills’ 10 draft picks have graduated from college or are scheduled to graduate by the summer. The two that have not are second-rounder James Hardy, who ended his college career a year early, and seventh-rounder Steve Johnson.
    Originally posted by mysticsoto
    Lecter is right in everything he said.
  • DMBcrew36
    Registered User
    • Feb 2005
    • 5096

    #2
    Re: Ellis will allow Bills to make waves at DE

    I like this.

    Rotating four obviously keeps them all relatively fresh - hopefully giving them an advantage over opposing offensive lineman.

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    • colin
      Drew's my hero!
      • Jul 2002
      • 2491

      #3
      Re: Ellis will allow Bills to make waves at DE

      in our d we have our dline run like track stars. they rush hard, get upfield, then run the ball down.

      we really do need 4 solid guys and i think we have them now.

      dts too. stroud is awesome for us because he is huge but also long and a hustler. not a ton of guys out there who can run and smash mouth at the line.

      i think mccargo's problem has been conditioning. he is a force when in, but in our system he needs to be able to hustle and run more.

      now that we have more depth along w more size at lb, ellis will be in the enviable position for a rook of just getting let off his leash and sent on wild tear.

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      • Captain gameboy
        Registered User
        • Jul 2002
        • 14287

        #4
        Re: Ellis will allow Bills to make waves at DE

        As I posted on draft day, I really like Ellis, and I have seen him a bunch.

        I also mentioned that the head coach at Fork Union Military Academy, John Shuman, who knows all about Ellis, stated earlier in the year that he thought Ellis had the potential to be a better pass rusher than Chris Long.

        What credibility could this guy have?
        Here's a list of guys who have played and graduated from Fork Union:

        Heisman Trophy winners:
        Eddie George
        Vinny Testaverde

        Others:
        Gaines Adams/Michael Barber/Mike Quick/Darryl Blackstock/Plaxico Burress/Dexter Coakley/Josh Davis/Jim Druckenmiller/Rickey Dudley/Don Majkowski/Billy McMullen/Ernest Wilford

        In this year's draft alone:

        Clemson defensive end Philip Merling
        Josh Morgan of Virginia Tech-Drafted by 49ers
        Dorien Bryant of Purdue-free agent Pittsburgh

        I don't think there is any legitimate reason to believe that Ellis WON'T be a starter, or that he will end up as just a situational pass rusher.

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        • Night Train
          Retired - On Several Levels
          • Jul 2005
          • 33117

          #5
          Re: Ellis will allow Bills to make waves at DE

          We were giving Hargrove a chance be be a pass rush specialist.

          This guy seems to have a lot of quickness and scout Tom Roth just gushed over the guy, after scouting him closely.

          Can't wait to see him and the other rookies in camp.
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          • DMBcrew36
            Registered User
            • Feb 2005
            • 5096

            #6
            Re: Ellis will allow Bills to make waves at DE

            Originally posted by Night Train
            We were giving Hargrove a chance be be a pass rush specialist.

            This guy seems to have a lot of quickness and scout Tom Roth just gushed over the guy, after scouting him closely.

            Can't wait to see him and the other rookies in camp.
            Ha, too bad Hargove likes to smoke bud and punch cops in the face!

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            • Mahdi
              Registered User
              • Mar 2004
              • 10585

              #7
              Re: Ellis will allow Bills to make waves at DE

              Ellis is quicker and more talented than Hargrove anyways... Hargrove was just a high-motor guy.

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              • jamze132
                Don’t hate…
                • Jun 2003
                • 29337

                #8
                Re: Ellis will allow Bills to make waves at DE

                None of our DE ever had a problem getting 3-6 yards deep behind the LOS. The problem came when the DEs rushed wide, the DTs got pushed back which creates 30 seconds of time for the QB to throw the ball wherever the **** he wants. With the emergence of McCargo and getting Stroud, it should do nothing but help out our DEs who seem to only go wide.

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                • PECKERWOOD
                  Defies all logic
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 13170

                  #9
                  Re: Ellis will allow Bills to make waves at DE

                  It's a good pick, I will be happy if he can get 4-5 sacks next year.

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                  • Captain gameboy
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 14287

                    #10
                    Re: Ellis will allow Bills to make waves at DE

                    Originally posted by jamze132
                    None of our DE ever had a problem getting 3-6 yards deep behind the LOS. The problem came when the DEs rushed wide, the DTs got pushed back which creates 30 seconds of time for the QB to throw the ball wherever the **** he wants. With the emergence of McCargo and getting Stroud, it should do nothing but help out our DEs who seem to only go wide.
                    I think that is an accurate assessment.
                    But....When Ellis gets deep, you will see a world of difference in closing speed and agility.
                    I really think he has the ability to be special.

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                    • justasportsfan
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 71580

                      #11
                      Re: Ellis will allow Bills to make waves at DE

                      Originally posted by gameboy
                      I think that is an accurate assessment.
                      But....When Ellis gets deep, you will see a world of difference in closing speed and agility.
                      I really think he has the ability to be special.
                      he did look like he can close fast and packs a huge hit.
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                      • jamze132
                        Don’t hate…
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 29337

                        #12
                        Re: Ellis will allow Bills to make waves at DE

                        Originally posted by gameboy
                        I think that is an accurate assessment.
                        But....When Ellis gets deep, you will see a world of difference in closing speed and agility.
                        I really think he has the ability to be special.
                        We'll see.

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                        • YardRat
                          Well, lookie here...
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 86191

                          #13
                          Re: Ellis will allow Bills to make waves at DE

                          He needs to keep his nose clean, but another young guy I'll be rooting like hell for to exceed expectations.
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                          • acehole
                            Registered User
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 4877

                            #14
                            Re: Ellis will allow Bills to make waves at DE

                            This guy was a good pick. One year of HGH and I think he will be as good or better then D Tapp...just got to get stronger.

                            Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                            The No. 4 defensive end is an afterthought on many NFL teams.

                            The Buffalo Bills showed Sunday how important they think that roster spot is when they invested their third-round pick on Virginia Tech defensive end Chris Ellis.

                            The Bills could have drafted a tight end at that spot. They could have taken another Penn State linebacker, Dan Connor. There was a big defensive tackle, Auburn’s Pat Sims, still on the board.

                            However, the Bills are more serious than ever about sending waves of pass rushers at the opposing quarterback in 2008.

                            “I’ve always felt you have to have four,” Bills Vice President of College Scouting Tom Modrak said of pass rushing defensive ends. “You can live with three but four is better.”



                            Also (at the end)

                            Eight of the Bills’ 10 draft picks have graduated from college or are scheduled to graduate by the summer. The two that have not are second-rounder James Hardy, who ended his college career a year early, and seventh-rounder Steve Johnson.
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                            • DMBcrew36
                              Registered User
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 5096

                              #15
                              Re: Ellis will allow Bills to make waves at DE

                              Lets be real, the Bills need to get black, lanky defensive lineman - like the Chicago Bears. Enough of these Ryan Denney's - they don't get to the QB quick enough.

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