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LifetimeBillsFan
04-30-2008, 12:45 PM
Because you never really know how a player is going to develop, I rarely make predictions about how well a player will do in the NFL (Glenn Dorsey, the last two years being an exception), but I'm going to go out on a limb and make a prediction and some comparisons about a player--and a player selected in the latter rounds of the draft at that!--who the Bills just drafted: Xavier Omon.

I just watched the YouTube video of Omon's highlights--and I strongly urge everyone to take the time to look at it (if you haven't seen it yet, the URL for it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRyuegVJiUQ )--to see if it showed what I thought I saw in him when I watched the games that I saw him play in college or if, perhaps, I was wrong and was seeing something that wasn't there watching those games at real speed and being caught up in the game.

Well, it's there. In virtually every play shown on the video. Take a look at the video and make up your mind for yourself about whether I am right or wrong about this:

He's got incredibly quick feet.

And, while some may think that, being short and stocky, he is a power runner who will run through defenders (I've read suggestions here and elsewhere that he will be a short-yardage specialist), if you look at the YouTube video, you will see that the first defender never--and I mean NEVER--gets a clean hit on him.

In addition to using his quick feet, he has that ability to make that little, sudden,instinctive move with his body at the last split-second that keeps that first defender from getting enough of a piece of him to bring him down. And, he has the strength and burst to shrug off or avoid those partial tackles and run away from them.

Now I know that the defensive players in the NFL are bigger, quicker and stronger than the guys that Omon played against in D-2 and that he may not be able to run away from them the way that he ran away from the players he faced in college, but you can't teach the kind of quick moves and instinctive elusiveness that he shows in the video...and it doesn't matter how big or strong you are if the guy you are trying to hit suddenly isn't there to hit anymore.

And, look at how low to the ground he runs when he gets the ball. It is going to be hard to see him when he gets behind a big offensive line. In addition, he has such a low center of gravity that, if he does get hit cleanly, it will be like getting hit my a bowling ball.

I know he only ran a 4.5 in the 40 and most DBs and even some LBs in the NFL run faster than that, so he may not have the pure speed necessary to run away from defenders and be a "home run hitter" in the NFL--and I will admit that his lack of pure straight-ahead speed is my biggest concern about him being able to make it in the pros. But, if you look at the video, he has excellent vision and a knack for running to daylight.

(Just a note on this last point: I realize that a lot of Bills fans have fallen in love with M.Lynch's "Beast Mode" style of running after watching W.McGahee constantly running out of bounds to avoid being hit, but IMHO Lynch is a RB who "runs to contact", looking to run over or through tacklers rather than use his speed and moves to avoid clean hits, and, being a little on the smaller side for such a RB, ultimately that is going to catch up to him and prematurely shorten his effectiveness and perhaps even his career. While it is important for a RB to be tough and show that he will run through tacklers when he needs to do so, again IMHO it is better if, while being tough, he tries to "run to daylight" and has the ability to do so--which is what Omon appears to do.)

While I don't know if Omon has the pure speed to "take it to the house" on long runs in the NFL, if you look at the video (and I realize that this was a highlight tape, not game film), you see that this kid was not just a "between the tackles" battering ram that some think his stats suggest.

In the video there is a play where he breaks a run for a 99 TD: it was in a D-2 playoff game that I saw against Grand Valley St. It was late in a game where the defending champs, Grand Valley, had comeback to close within 3-4 points and just needed to hold for a series to have a chance to win: everyone in the stadium and watching on TV knew that Omon was going to get the ball on that play--in fact, everyone knew that Omon was getting the ball virtually every play in the 4th Quarter. But, as the video shows, it didn't matter: Omon, who had already broken a long TD run earlier in the game, took the first play all the way "to the house", even though with all the carries he had that day any RB would have been exhausted.

If I were a little more sure of his speed, I would predict that Omon could approach greatness on the NFL level--kind of on the level of a Leroy Kelly or Tiki Barber (but with a different running style than either)--if given the chance to catch up to the speed of the game and get playing time.

But, since I'm not that sure of his pure speed, I'm going to go this far out on a limb here and say that, if the Bills give him that chance--which may include a stint on the practice squad, at least early this season--Omon will be the kind of RB that Kenneth Davis was for the SB-era Bills and that Chester Taylor has been for the Ravens and Vikings.

With Lynch and Fred Jackson (and perhaps Wright) ahead of him on the depth chart and his size/speed limitations, I don't know if Omon will be given the shot that he needs to make it in the NFL by the Bills or any other team, but, when I was watching the YouTube video, Omon reminded me a lot of Kenny Davis. Davis was another RB who wasn't big or particularly fast, but he was incredibly valuable spelling Thurman Thomas for those great Bills teams. I can see Xavier Omon becoming the "Kenneth Davis" to Marshawn Lynch for these Bills.

If I'm not mistaken, Fred Jackson is faster than Omon. But, Jackson is a "straight-line" runner. He doesn't have the quick feet and elusive shiftiness--that ability to step away from the tackle at the last instant--that Omon shows on the video. Personally, I think there is a role for both of them on the Bills. But, I see little things from Omon in the video that you just don't see in every RB that, if he can transition those abilities to the NFL level, make me believe that Omon can, at least, become a major contributor for the Bills if they give him a chance to develop and bring his game up to the NFL level.

Of course, it will be up to Omon to do what he needs to do to take advantage of that opportunity if the Bills give it to him, but I think if does what he needs to do, he can turn out to be a real gem, at the very least as a role-player, but as a key role-player (and perhaps more), for the Bills.



PS: Another comparison, for those who remember him would be Robb Riddick, although I think Omon has the potential to be better than Riddick was.

DraftBoy
04-30-2008, 01:01 PM
All well said and I agree, Ive talking about this kid since the DII playoffs started and how good he is. I saw him play against Chadron St the week before and then the GV St game and the following Valdosta St game where they lost.

My only concern with him is, and you can see it in the video, that he needs to protect the ball a little better when he carries it. I saw it way too often being carries a little too carelessly. Im sure coaching will fix that but its something to watch.

Pinkerton Security
04-30-2008, 01:01 PM
agreed. not much to add, just that i hope he takes wright's snaps away because he disappointed me last year in his few carries.

yordad
04-30-2008, 01:02 PM
I have seen very little Omon, but I have seen some. He looked a lot like Lynch to me. If Lynch put on 10- 15 more pounds of muscle, they cold be clones. If Lynch put on that weight he probably wouldn't run a 4.46 anymore.

What I am saying is, he has moves. Deceptively shifty. Hit the hole hard. Spins. Excellent vision. And, he may not have top end track speed, but you gotta take a proper angle on this guy. He can jump over people. I am told his pro day was more impressive then the combine. He is very powerful. And, experienced.

So, basically a buffed out Lynch. He has potential. I think he will be a preseason stud. He should pass Wright on the depth chart. But, hopefully he never sees time in the game, because the real Lynch is a beast. And Jackson's got mad skills. But, he could be a good sleeper.

Mr. Miyagi
04-30-2008, 01:24 PM
I got it. His new nickname shall be Remy.

XO baby.

http://www.dallasliquormart.co.uk/images/Photos/remy-xo.jpg

justasportsfan
04-30-2008, 01:38 PM
All well said and I agree, Ive talking about this kid since the DII playoffs started and how good he is. I saw him play against Chadron St the week before and then the GV St game and the following Valdosta St game where they lost.

My only concern with him is, and you can see it in the video, that he needs to protect the ball a little better when he carries it. I saw it way too often being carries a little too carelessly. Im sure coaching will fix that but its something to watch.
Doesn't also seem to have breakaway speed but I think he'll be a good no.2. Move Wright to FB.

trapezeus
04-30-2008, 01:46 PM
i can't see the video at this time. but i think it is telling that Wright's performance was so shaky in his few touches that the bills drafted another RB. No one felt good with him. If he gets the push from Odom to get better great. if not, let's get Odom on board.

I'm never worreid about the RB position. Seems like there are a bunch that come out highly ranked from college, and then a boat load of extras floating around. and they seem like they can do well if they get the right OL in front of them. I think our OL is still a work in progress but its definitely getting better. Hopefully wright is a FB option with his size, but for some reason i highly doubt it.

LifetimeBillsFan
04-30-2008, 03:16 PM
.... Move Wright to FB.

It would not surprise me if that is the plan.

Especially since the Bills did not draft a FB or bring one in as a UDFA yet. And have passed up a couple of opportunities to sign another experienced FB in free agency.


Barnes isn't as bad as a lot of people here think: I saw him with the Jets and he did a creditable job for them, but got cut loose when they decided not to use a FB and go to a one-back set (like the Bills did last year).

But, even if Barnes turns out to be terrific, you always have to be prepared in case of an injury. And, right now, unless I'm mistaken, Barnes is the only true FB on the roster.

So, either the Bills intend to use one of their TEs (either Schoumann or Fine) as their back-up FB or they may be intending to have Wright come in a bit bigger and stronger (they just need him to be 245-255) to compete with Barnes at the FB spot.

I just don't see Wright fitting in this offense as a RB--even as a goal-line specialist. But, if he works at it, I can see him becoming a "Tom Rathman" type FB that blocks, but also catches the ball as another outlet receiver for the QB and can run the draw.

I don't know if Wright would want to make the position switch--FB is a much tougher and more physically demanding position and gets a lot less glory--and motivation is essential to being successful at the position. But, I think that the move would not only be logical, but a good one for him to make--for team, as well as for himself, personally.

ddaryl
04-30-2008, 03:24 PM
It would not surprise me if that is the plan.

Especially since the Bills did not draft a FB or bring one in as a UDFA yet.


We signed Viti as a UDFA FB

LifetimeBillsFan
04-30-2008, 03:35 PM
We signed Viti as a UDFA FB

Oops. You're right about that. I forgot.

But, Viti is all of 5'9". And, as buffed out as he is, I want to see him be able to take on the likes of Shawnee Merriman and not get engulfed or tossed to the side consistently. Being pretty much the same height, though never as heavy or quite as muscular, I'd LOVE to see him be able to do it. But, I think Viti is going to have some leverage issues with the bigger guys that he is going to be going up against in the NFL--especially with the way they hate it when a guy goes low on them.

Still, why not see if Wright is willing to compete with him for the spot as well. As Jauron is so fond of saying, "competition is good"....

PECKERWOOD
04-30-2008, 04:03 PM
FB is one of those positions where you need to get down really low to block, being 5'9 may actually help Viti get leverage on bigger players.

Marvelous
04-30-2008, 04:17 PM
Looks good. Undfortunately for him i'm a HUGE Fred Jackson fan... But there's always room for more talent!!!!! I hope he can perform at the next next level for us..... Nice clip... I wanna see a full game...

The Answer
04-30-2008, 04:25 PM
The more I think about it - the more this pick does make sense for a few different reasons:

1) Lynch is our top back, but did miss some time due to injury as a rookie. But even if healthy an entire, we can't expect him to carry the ball every down or his career won't last very long.

2) Action Jackson emerged as a solid compliment, but he has to prove he can consistently produce again in 2008.

3) Although it's still to early call Wright a bust, he didn't necessarily give me confidence that he will end up doing much in this league based on what we saw in limited action as a rookie.

4) We still don't have a true 'short yardage/goaline' specialist.

5) You can never have enough ST studs.

Training camp will definitely be interesting, especially as we evaluate the RB positon.

~The Answer

EDS
04-30-2008, 05:41 PM
LTBF - Your description makes Omon sound just like Travis Henry, another short, squat runner who does not take direct hits, but runs with good power.

Don't Panic
04-30-2008, 09:07 PM
Great post, LBF. I was in love with this kid by the end of the night on Sunday.

Oaf
05-01-2008, 02:41 AM
Omon and Viti should be a ball to watch in the preseason.

I think both will stick as well. Is Wright PS-eligible? I wouldn't lose any sleep if we had to cut him either.

Spiderweb
05-01-2008, 12:50 PM
FB is one of those positions where you need to get down really low to block, being 5'9 may actually help Viti get leverage on bigger players.

Much better analysis than the post immediately above yours.

His stature, at his weight would be an advantage with blocking 99% of the time. Being short and squat (so to speak) will give the defenders problems in moving him more than the other way around. He who can get under the others pads is the one with the advantage.

TigerJ
05-02-2008, 11:52 AM
I agree with most of the things that have been said about Omon. Let me add that he looks pretty instinctive to me. That is, he seems to have a knack for sensing when and how to juke the defender. He doesn't have breakaway speed and thus won't break the real long plays often like he did in college. He is, however, faster than Wright.

Wright is kind of a FB/RB tweener, not big enough to be a classic bulldozing FB and not instinctive or fast enough to be a pure running back. The Bills might try switching him to FB, but I have a suspicion he might struggle to make the team there too. If I'm guessing right he's going to be one and done.

dasaybz
05-02-2008, 11:56 AM
Wright didn't get enough chances last year to actually see what he could do. I remember watching him in the preseason bowling guys over left and right. I'm rooting for Wright because I think he can make an impact on this team.

Too many running backs is NEVER a bad problem to have.

yordad
05-02-2008, 12:01 PM
Omon and Viti should be a ball to watch in the preseason.

I think both will stick as well. Is Wright PS-eligible? I wouldn't lose any sleep if we had to cut him either.He is ineligible. But, I agree. They should be really fun to watch.

We are going to have Reed, Parrish, Losman, and Jackson as our seconds? LOL, that sounds like good depth to me.

Viti and Omon against thirds? Talk about a power attack against some grocery baggers.

I think they are going to be fan favorites soon.

blackonyx89
05-02-2008, 12:28 PM
Because you never really know how a player is going to develop, I rarely make predictions about how well a player will do in the NFL (Glenn Dorsey, the last two years being an exception), but I'm going to go out on a limb and make a prediction and some comparisons about a player--and a player selected in the latter rounds of the draft at that!--who the Bills just drafted: Xavier Omon.

I just watched the YouTube video of Omon's highlights--and I strongly urge everyone to take the time to look at it (if you haven't seen it yet, the URL for it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRyuegVJiUQ )--to see if it showed what I thought I saw in him when I watched the games that I saw him play in college or if, perhaps, I was wrong and was seeing something that wasn't there watching those games at real speed and being caught up in the game.

Well, it's there. In virtually every play shown on the video. Take a look at the video and make up your mind for yourself about whether I am right or wrong about this:

He's got incredibly quick feet.

And, while some may think that, being short and stocky, he is a power runner who will run through defenders (I've read suggestions here and elsewhere that he will be a short-yardage specialist), if you look at the YouTube video, you will see that the first defender never--and I mean NEVER--gets a clean hit on him.

In addition to using his quick feet, he has that ability to make that little, sudden,instinctive move with his body at the last split-second that keeps that first defender from getting enough of a piece of him to bring him down. And, he has the strength and burst to shrug off or avoid those partial tackles and run away from them.

Now I know that the defensive players in the NFL are bigger, quicker and stronger than the guys that Omon played against in D-2 and that he may not be able to run away from them the way that he ran away from the players he faced in college, but you can't teach the kind of quick moves and instinctive elusiveness that he shows in the video...and it doesn't matter how big or strong you are if the guy you are trying to hit suddenly isn't there to hit anymore.

And, look at how low to the ground he runs when he gets the ball. It is going to be hard to see him when he gets behind a big offensive line. In addition, he has such a low center of gravity that, if he does get hit cleanly, it will be like getting hit my a bowling ball.

I know he only ran a 4.5 in the 40 and most DBs and even some LBs in the NFL run faster than that, so he may not have the pure speed necessary to run away from defenders and be a "home run hitter" in the NFL--and I will admit that his lack of pure straight-ahead speed is my biggest concern about him being able to make it in the pros. But, if you look at the video, he has excellent vision and a knack for running to daylight.

(Just a note on this last point: I realize that a lot of Bills fans have fallen in love with M.Lynch's "Beast Mode" style of running after watching W.McGahee constantly running out of bounds to avoid being hit, but IMHO Lynch is a RB who "runs to contact", looking to run over or through tacklers rather than use his speed and moves to avoid clean hits, and, being a little on the smaller side for such a RB, ultimately that is going to catch up to him and prematurely shorten his effectiveness and perhaps even his career. While it is important for a RB to be tough and show that he will run through tacklers when he needs to do so, again IMHO it is better if, while being tough, he tries to "run to daylight" and has the ability to do so--which is what Omon appears to do.)

While I don't know if Omon has the pure speed to "take it to the house" on long runs in the NFL, if you look at the video (and I realize that this was a highlight tape, not game film), you see that this kid was not just a "between the tackles" battering ram that some think his stats suggest.

In the video there is a play where he breaks a run for a 99 TD: it was in a D-2 playoff game that I saw against Grand Valley St. It was late in a game where the defending champs, Grand Valley, had comeback to close within 3-4 points and just needed to hold for a series to have a chance to win: everyone in the stadium and watching on TV knew that Omon was going to get the ball on that play--in fact, everyone knew that Omon was getting the ball virtually every play in the 4th Quarter. But, as the video shows, it didn't matter: Omon, who had already broken a long TD run earlier in the game, took the first play all the way "to the house", even though with all the carries he had that day any RB would have been exhausted.

If I were a little more sure of his speed, I would predict that Omon could approach greatness on the NFL level--kind of on the level of a Leroy Kelly or Tiki Barber (but with a different running style than either)--if given the chance to catch up to the speed of the game and get playing time.

But, since I'm not that sure of his pure speed, I'm going to go this far out on a limb here and say that, if the Bills give him that chance--which may include a stint on the practice squad, at least early this season--Omon will be the kind of RB that Kenneth Davis was for the SB-era Bills and that Chester Taylor has been for the Ravens and Vikings.

With Lynch and Fred Jackson (and perhaps Wright) ahead of him on the depth chart and his size/speed limitations, I don't know if Omon will be given the shot that he needs to make it in the NFL by the Bills or any other team, but, when I was watching the YouTube video, Omon reminded me a lot of Kenny Davis. Davis was another RB who wasn't big or particularly fast, but he was incredibly valuable spelling Thurman Thomas for those great Bills teams. I can see Xavier Omon becoming the "Kenneth Davis" to Marshawn Lynch for these Bills.

If I'm not mistaken, Fred Jackson is faster than Omon. But, Jackson is a "straight-line" runner. He doesn't have the quick feet and elusive shiftiness--that ability to step away from the tackle at the last instant--that Omon shows on the video. Personally, I think there is a role for both of them on the Bills. But, I see little things from Omon in the video that you just don't see in every RB that, if he can transition those abilities to the NFL level, make me believe that Omon can, at least, become a major contributor for the Bills if they give him a chance to develop and bring his game up to the NFL level.

Of course, it will be up to Omon to do what he needs to do to take advantage of that opportunity if the Bills give it to him, but I think if does what he needs to do, he can turn out to be a real gem, at the very least as a role-player, but as a key role-player (and perhaps more), for the Bills.



PS: Another comparison, for those who remember him would be Robb Riddick, although I think Omon has the potential to be better than Riddick was.


I loved Robb Riddick! He was a slasher type back. The way he cut through the hole and off to the races he went. I hope that Xavier (The X-Man) Xmon can do that. :D:

OpIv37
05-02-2008, 12:36 PM
I would caution against using highlight reels to make your predictions. I could put together a highlight reel that makes Robert Royal look like Antonio Gates but that's simply not the reality of a situation.

If you can get your hands on any full games, you might want to take a look at those and see if you still agree.

The Spaz
05-02-2008, 12:46 PM
I would caution against using highlight reels to make your predictions. I could put together a highlight reel that makes Robert Royal look like Antonio Gates but that's simply not the reality of a situation.

If you can get your hands on any full games, you might want to take a look at those and see if you still agree.

I'm not saying we have a superstar but if watch full games you will still see why he got at least 1500 yards for 4 seasons.

Dr. Lecter
05-02-2008, 12:47 PM
I would caution against using highlight reels to make your predictions. I could put together a highlight reel that makes Robert Royal look like Antonio Gates but that's simply not the reality of a situation.

If you can get your hands on any full games, you might want to take a look at those and see if you still agree.

He did watch games:

to see if it showed what I thought I saw in him when I watched the games that I saw him play in college or if, perhaps, I was wrong and was seeing something that wasn't there watching those games at real speed and being caught up in the game.

yordad
05-02-2008, 01:06 PM
I would caution against using highlight reels to make your predictions. I could put together a highlight reel that makes Robert Royal look like Antonio Gates but that's simply not the reality of a situation.

If you can get your hands on any full games, you might want to take a look at those and see if you still agree.I would like to see a highlight film that makes Royal look like Gates. Because I cannot think of one highlight catch in dudes career.

Actually, the only standout play I can think of is the one where he stepped out the back of the endzone to cement our non-playoffs fate in '06.

Those highlights don't show Omons incredible sustained production either.

Your like a Debbie Downer today.