Schonert on Hardy

[Philagape]

from an AP story today ....

And not all of Hardy's touchdowns came with him merely out-jumping opponents in the end zone.
As he showed during his first day of practice, Hardy has good hands to catch the ball over the middle and is able to bend down and reach back for passes on quick outs along the sideline as well.
"He can bend for a big man," first-year offensive coordinator Turk Schonert said. "He can change direction. He can run all the routes. He's just not a guy that you tell to just run deep and throw the ball up to him. That's not what he's about."

[Philagape]

"This is a great opportunity," Hardy said. "But I'm not coming in thinking I'm going to get the starting job. I want to come in and work extremely hard, like Lee Evans, sort of be his little brother, and have him guide me through this."

"My whole life has really been about pressure," Hardy said. "I like pressure. It makes me work a lot harder. And especially with 72,000 fans cheering us one, I'll do everything in my power to get Buffalo to the playoffs."

[Philagape]

full story:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-bills-hardy&prov=ap&type=lgns

[HHURRICANE]

Too bad we are still low on WRs. Maybe one of the 17 CBs on this team can play at the position.

[Philagape]

Hardy sounds like someone who can turn a position of weakness into a strength. He's big, fast, quick and more than just a jump-ball specialist. He sounds coachable and ready to learn. If so, he'll start early, and Reed and Parrish will make nice depth.
The character issue dropped him, but if he's truly past that, we have a potential steal. No guarantees, of course, but it sounds good so far.

[Xanthos]

“My whole life has really been about pressure,” Hardy said. “I like pressure. It makes me work a lot harder. And especially with 72,000 fans cheering us on, I’ll do everything in my power to get Buffalo to the playoffs.” :bf1:

[patmoran2006]

He could POTENTIALLY.. and I will say that word again.. POTENTIALLY. Be a Terrell Owens type of WR on the field.

[kernowboy]

He could POTENTIALLY.. and I will say that word again.. POTENTIALLY. Be a Terrell Owens type of WR on the field.

lets hope he doesn't become an Owens type player off the field

[Goobylal]

Too bad we are still low on WRs. Maybe one of the 17 CBs on this team can play at the position.
Evans, Hardy, Parrish, Reed, Steve Johnson, Jason Jones, Justin Jenkins. The Bills should find a good group of 5 out of them.

[mikemac2001]

IM SOOOOOOOOOO PUMPED

[OpIv37]

Too bad we are still low on WRs. Maybe one of the 17 CBs on this team can play at the position.

because another 5'10" WR would really help this team....

Sometimes I don't know what this FO is thinking. Maybe we could at least move George Wilson back.

[TigerJ]

He could POTENTIALLY.. and I will say that word again.. POTENTIALLY. Be a Terrell Owens type of WR on the field.

There have been other receivers coming out of college about whom the same could have been said. I like what I'm hearing about Hardy, but I don't want to get drunk on the superlatives just yet. I'd rather just wait and see how training camp goes.

[Pinkerton Security]

i like this guy. a lot.

[HHURRICANE]

Sirius today was saying that if Hardy is not past his domestic issues the Bills pick will obvioulsy look very bad.

It seems like his way of "dealing with pressure" was beating on woman.

I like the fact that the Bills took a shot on a talented player with issues vs. a high character guy with a high motor. I'm just realistic that his problems may not be behind him. Time will tell.

[Goobylal]

Sirius today was saying that if Hardy is not past his domestic issues the Bills pick will obvioulsy look very bad.

It seems like his way of "dealing with pressure" was beating on woman.

I like the fact that the Bills took a shot on a talented player with issues vs. a high character guy with a high motor. I'm just realistic that his problems may not be behind him. Time will tell.
The Bills apparently investigated Hardy and were satisfied that his problems were behind him. The only person who would know that though is Hardy himself. So there's no point in worrying about something you can't control.

[DynaPaul]

Sounds nice. He probably won't blossom into a big time receiver until his 3rd year if he does turn out to be an all-pro.

[Mahdi]

because another 5'10" WR would really help this team....

Sometimes I don't know what this FO is thinking. Maybe we could at least move George Wilson back.
I dont get what yer complaint is.... They drafted a 6'6 receiver with a high pick and then selected another good 6'2 prospect who was very productive. It wouldnt surprise me to see Steve Johnson start in the slot come mid-season. I have nothing against Parrish or Reed but I really like Johnson having seen him play a lot at Kentucky.

[Luisito23]

I dont get what yer complaint is....


It wouldn't be a thread without OP's rants.....

[Novacane]

"This is a great opportunity," Hardy said. "But I'm not coming in thinking I'm going to get the starting job I want to come in and work extremely hard, ,.like Lee Evans, sort of be his little brother." and have him guide me through this."


Great. Just what we don't need. Evans filling his head with JP should be starting crap:rolleyes: Find another role model please.

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Just a couple of comments:

1.) Hardy has an aunt and family that live in Buffalo and were there before the Bills drafted him--his father's older sister. I'm sure that they will let him know just how important the Bills are to the area and how much the team needs what he can give it.

2.) James Hardy is 6'5" tall, Steve Johnson is 6'2", and Jason Jones is 6' 1/2". The Bills answered their need for size at WR by bringing in 3 guys with size and decent speed. So what are you complaining about now, OP?

3.) With teams using 3-, 4- and even 5-receiver sets 55% of the time last season, a team needs to have at least 6 CBs that will not be a liability if they have to take snaps on defense. McKelvin, McGee, Greer and James are four. Youboty might make five, he might not. Are you comfortable with Dustin Fox being the fifth or sixth? I'm not. And, I'll bet that right now, at this moment, Reggie Corner, despite being smaller than Fox, has better coverage skills than Dustin Fox.

Reggie Corner, McGee and Greer might be "smurfs", but McKelvin, James and Youboty are all average size for a NFL CB and, while I don't know much about him or his chances of making the team, Kennard Cox is a 6' tall CB. So, it's not like all of the Bills' CBs are undersized.

When you get the # 1 rated CB in the draft and the biggest WR--a guy who scored a TD one out of every 5.3 receptions that he had in college--and two other WRs over 6' tall to fill the team's need for size at that position, I don't know what the complaint is unless it is complaining for the sake of complaining....

[The Spaz]

When you get the # 1 rated CB in the draft and the biggest WR--a guy who scored a TD one out of every 5.3 receptions that he had in college--and two other WRs over 6' tall to fill the team's need for size at that position, I don't know what the complaint is unless it is complaining for the sake of complaining....

Ding!!

[HHURRICANE]

--and two other WRs over 6' tall to fill the team's need for size at that position, I don't know what the complaint is unless it is complaining for the sake of complaining....

To be fair you are talking about guys that got drafted late so these aren't big additions to the team.

The Bills had a golden opportunity to go back in the second and really make a statement with Sweed or Bennett.

The funny part is that they were trying to trade up to get Hardy and still got him so why not go back in and get another need?!

[John Doe]

To be fair you are talking about guys that got drafted late so these aren't big additions to the team.

The Bills had a golden opportunity to go back in the second and really make a statement with Sweed or Bennett.

The funny part is that they were trying to trade up to get Hardy and still got him so why not go back in and get another need?!

To be fair, they sat tight and were able to address another need at defensive end with their third round pick without having to use a draft pick to move up.

[Goobylal]

To be fair you are talking about guys that got drafted late so these aren't big additions to the team.

The Bills had a golden opportunity to go back in the second and really make a statement with Sweed or Bennett.

The funny part is that they were trying to trade up to get Hardy and still got him so why not go back in and get another need?!
Why stop there? Why not draft 3 WR's in a row? Maybe 4? Completely overhaul the WR's corps.

[Michael82]

Just a couple of comments:

1.) Hardy has an aunt and family that live in Buffalo and were there before the Bills drafted him--his father's older sister. I'm sure that they will let him know just how important the Bills are to the area and how much the team needs what he can give it.

2.) James Hardy is 6'5" tall, Steve Johnson is 6'2", and Jason Jones is 6' 1/2". The Bills answered their need for size at WR by bringing in 3 guys with size and decent speed. So what are you complaining about now, OP?

3.) With teams using 3-, 4- and even 5-receiver sets 55% of the time last season, a team needs to have at least 6 CBs that will not be a liability if they have to take snaps on defense. McKelvin, McGee, Greer and James are four. Youboty might make five, he might not. Are you comfortable with Dustin Fox being the fifth or sixth? I'm not. And, I'll bet that right now, at this moment, Reggie Corner, despite being smaller than Fox, has better coverage skills than Dustin Fox.

Reggie Corner, McGee and Greer might be "smurfs", but McKelvin, James and Youboty are all average size for a NFL CB and, while I don't know much about him or his chances of making the team, Kennard Cox is a 6' tall CB. So, it's not like all of the Bills' CBs are undersized.

When you get the # 1 rated CB in the draft and the biggest WR--a guy who scored a TD one out of every 5.3 receptions that he had in college--and two other WRs over 6' tall to fill the team's need for size at that position, I don't know what the complaint is unless it is complaining for the sake of complaining....
Good post! And don't mind Op, he loves to complain, just for the sake of complaining. :snicker:

[mybills]

Great post LTBF! :up:

and :rofl: @ John Doe's sig. Who's quotes are those?

[John Doe]

Great post LTBF! :up:

and :rofl: @ John Doe's sig. Who's quotes are those?

All courtesy of OP

[mybills]

:chuckle:

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Good post! And don't mind Op, he loves to complain, just for the sake of complaining. :snicker:

I know. And, I just love giving him a hard time once in awhile for doing it :lol:

Actually, without guys like Op and HH on one side and some of the rest of us on the other the discussion would get pretty boring rather quickly. And, while sometimes it's just complaining for the sake of complaining, I really respect Op, et al. for having the courage to raise issues and make good arguments about to support their point of view even though they know that they are going to get a lot a heat for doing so. The thing is that we all want the same thing--a Bills team that can bring the Lombardi Trophy to Buffalo--even if we sometimes see things a little differently...but that's what makes life interesting!

[BAM]

I know. And, I just love giving him a hard time once in awhile for doing it :lol:

Actually, without guys like Op and HH on one side and some of the rest of us on the other the discussion would get pretty boring rather quickly. And, while sometimes it's just complaining for the sake of complaining, I really respect Op, et al. for having the courage to raise issues and make good arguments about to support their point of view even though they know that they are going to get a lot a heat for doing so. The thing is that we all want the same thing--a Bills team that can bring the Lombardi Trophy to Buffalo--even if we sometimes see things a little differently...but that's what makes life interesting!

I agree. Op is a good poster and always backs up his arguments with facts. He's a very intelligent poster and this place wouldn't be the same without him.

Here's to Op! :beers:

[trapezeus]

was i the only one to read OP's 5'7' post as a joke?

[baalworship]

Too bad we are still low on WRs. Maybe one of the 17 CBs on this team can play at the position.


Corner wasn't always a corner.....


:nod:

[ublinkwescore]

Too bad we are still low on WRs. Maybe one of the 17 CBs on this team can play at the position.

George Wilson?

[HHURRICANE]

George Wilson?

I knew that was coming.

The Bills draft Wire, a LB, to play SS and than try to convert him back to LB.

The Bills sign Wilson as a WR and than try converting him to CB. Why do I think this is coming full circle.

Jason Peters was a freak of nature. He probably could play any position on this team. With the excpetion of him I'd like to keep our experiments to a minimum.

[GarnOFreak]

Sirius today was saying that if Hardy is not past his domestic issues the Bills pick will obvioulsy look very bad.

It seems like his way of "dealing with pressure" was beating on woman.

I like the fact that the Bills took a shot on a talented player with issues vs. a high character guy with a high motor. I'm just realistic that his problems may not be behind him. Time will tell.

True, but then again, we have cheered for players with less than stellar pasts that played well for us while here......Travis and Willis to name just two, yanno?
Have to wait and see as everyone is saying, just keep that in mind too.

[GarnOFreak]

Why stop there? Why not draft 3 WR's in a row? Maybe 4? Completely overhaul the WR's corps.

Because then they'd make us move to Detroit.

:10:

[Goobylal]

Because then they'd make us move to Detroit.

:10:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=C1M0zU2IihI&feature=related (at the 1:40 mark)

[acehole]

Sirius today was saying that if Hardy is not past his domestic issues the Bills pick will obvioulsy look very bad.

It seems like his way of "dealing with pressure" was beating on woman.

I like the fact that the Bills took a shot on a talented player with issues vs. a high character guy with a high motor. I'm just realistic that his problems may not be behind him. Time will tell.

Well he can come to these board and beat a dead horse instead.

No seriously I am glad we all now see we need a guy like this
opposite L Evans.

Beside maybe the hoe deserved it.

No seriously if he does to well Lee is a goner...

I know the Bills and they will mess this one up after 2009.

[ublinkwescore]

Just a couple of comments:

1.) Hardy has an aunt and family that live in Buffalo and were there before the Bills drafted him--his father's older sister. I'm sure that they will let him know just how important the Bills are to the area and how much the team needs what he can give it.

2.) James Hardy is 6'5" tall, Steve Johnson is 6'2", and Jason Jones is 6' 1/2". The Bills answered their need for size at WR by bringing in 3 guys with size and decent speed. So what are you complaining about now, OP?

3.) With teams using 3-, 4- and even 5-receiver sets 55% of the time last season, a team needs to have at least 6 CBs that will not be a liability if they have to take snaps on defense. McKelvin, McGee, Greer and James are four. Youboty might make five, he might not. Are you comfortable with Dustin Fox being the fifth or sixth? I'm not. And, I'll bet that right now, at this moment, Reggie Corner, despite being smaller than Fox, has better coverage skills than Dustin Fox.

Reggie Corner, McGee and Greer might be "smurfs", but McKelvin, James and Youboty are all average size for a NFL CB and, while I don't know much about him or his chances of making the team, Kennard Cox is a 6' tall CB. So, it's not like all of the Bills' CBs are undersized.

When you get the # 1 rated CB in the draft and the biggest WR--a guy who scored a TD one out of every 5.3 receptions that he had in college--and two other WRs over 6' tall to fill the team's need for size at that position, I don't know what the complaint is unless it is complaining for the sake of complaining....

Wow, that was a very popular post for some reason, can't imagine why.

[SeatownBillsFan21]

nuff said