Dolphins fan here...in peace

[Danny]

Hey guys,first time on this board...just wondering what you guys think of your team this year and what you guys think of the dolphins and the division....I like what you hguys did on draft day...I was hoping we'd get James Hardy as I think he's gonna be very hard to defence and they you have Evans too so it'll be hard for any secondary to keep up with those guys.

I feel good about the changes we've made in Miami starting with Parcells....we've added depth,a lot of good special team players and we beefed up both lines...our defence SHOULD be better at stoping the run and our running game should be better too....don't think we'll make the playoffs but we should have a better season with more young players.

Anyway,good luck to you guys this coming season unless you're playing the Dolphins of course and I hate NE and hope they punish them again for the game they taped,including 2 agaisnt us when we had a pretty good team.

Ozzy rules!!

[THE END OF ALL DAYS]

hey fish face...LOL, just kidding :)

your welcome any time. Fins should be better this year just with parcells beating on people. hard to be worse I guess :) both teams still along way from the damn Cheatriots, but it is all cyclical... they will be down someday too and then we can run the score up on the bastards like they did to us.

[hammerbillsfan]

:welcome: to Billszone!

:squish:

[Danny]

btw,what do you guys think they should do to the pats now that we know they taped another 6 games?I think they should take a draft pick away from them for each game.

Ozzy rules!!

[TigerJ]

Parcells will make Miami more competitive. That's no guarantee of a championship. His Dallas stint proved he's human after all, but Miami will get better. I think the improvement will start slow. The improved personnel on both lines will take a year to gel even if the Dolphins made all the right acquisitions. You still have to figure out who your QB is going to be, and then get him a few more weapons. I could see Miami being much tougher in a couple seasons. They'll win more than one this season. I think three to five wins might be a reasonable expectation.

Buffalo is further along in the turnaround process. We now have most of the necessary personnel upgrades in place. This years crop of rookies will probably take the usual amount of time to get up to speed. The more I hear about Hardy, the more I like him, BUT he's not perfect and he's not a finished product. As big as he is, he's not especially strong, and a strong, physical CB can probably jam him off of his intended route. He needs to get stronger and learn how to beat the jam. He was a man among boys at the college level, but that won't be the case any more. The offseason move that will probably make the biggest difference for the Bills is the retooling of the interior of the defensive line, dumping Tripplett, trading for Marcus Stroud and signing Spencer Johnson will be huge. It will not take a full year for the defensive line to gel since those guys are seasoned veterans. The other big factor in Buffalo's improvement will be getting back a bunch of promising young players from their MASH unit (injured reserve) John DiGiorgio is a smart athletic guy, but Paul Posluszny with a year to learn the system will be significantly better, even learning the system while riding the bench with his injury.

I think the Bills will be quite a bit better than the Dolphins this year, but with Parcells at the helm of the organization, Buffalo will soon need to be looking over their shoulder. For now, both of us have bigger concerns, how to get good enough to knock off Bill Belicheat and the Cheatriots.

[BADTHINGSMAN]

btw,what do you guys think they should do to the pats now that we know they taped another 6 games?I think they should take a draft pick away from them for each game.

Ozzy rules!!

More has to be done, basiclly the Pats traded a 1st round pick for a Super Bowl Title.. Heck if I owned any team Id take that every year if thats the punishment..

[LtFinFan66]

Welcome fellow Fin Fan

[PECKERWOOD]

Where the hell is im4bflo when ya need him? :lmao:

[PECKERWOOD]

Hey guys,first time on this board...just wondering what you guys think of your team this year and what you guys think of the dolphins and the division....I like what you hguys did on draft day...I was hoping we'd get James Hardy as I think he's gonna be very hard to defence and they you have Evans too so it'll be hard for any secondary to keep up with those guys.

I feel good about the changes we've made in Miami starting with Parcells....we've added depth,a lot of good special team players and we beefed up both lines...our defence SHOULD be better at stoping the run and our running game should be better too....don't think we'll make the playoffs but we should have a better season with more young players.

Anyway,good luck to you guys this coming season unless you're playing the Dolphins of course and I hate NE and hope they punish them again for the game they taped,including 2 agaisnt us when we had a pretty good team.

Ozzy rules!!

Long was a great pick by Miami and Merling in the 2nd was a steal. I'm indifferent about the Chad Henne pick, was never a big fan of his at Michigan, his accuracy was questionable at times. Not a bad draft though overall!

[jamze132]

Welcome to the board! Are you by any chance related to FTP? I sure hope not!

[shelby]

:welcome:......we make Fish fans mods around here....:coocoo:

[Danny]

I'm not related to anyone on the board.....thanks for your replys guys....Like I said before,I think you guys have a pretty good team this year and most Dolphins fans like me know that we've still got some work to do.....regarless,I can't wait for the season to start and see what happens....you guys have been cool so I'll make sure I stop by from time to time and see what you guys are up to....as a dolphins fan,I won't be TAPING anything you guys post....a pats fans,well,do we need to go there?...lol

Ozzy rules!!

[THATHURMANATOR]

Who is OZZY?

[Dr. Lecter]

Who is OZZY?

You can't be serious.

Despite your hatred of the 80's, you have to know who Ozzy is.

[hydro]

Why does every post have to be a tribute to him. :idunno:

[Mitchy moo]

:welcome:......we make Fish fans mods around here....:coocoo:

Just goes to show you how sane we are.

[ddaryl]

You can't be serious.

Despite your hatred of the 80's, you have to know who Ozzy is.

however Ozzy was better known for his work in 70's with Black Sabbath.


as for the Fish... they seem to be on the right track. They will need a few years to get all the pieces together.

At this point I want to see all Dolphin, Jets and Bills fans unite and spend there time pummeling the Patriot fans repeatedly in unison for the foreseeable future

[clumping platelets]

OZZY!!!! :punk:

[Danny]

Ozzy is Ozzy Osbourne of course,my favorite singer...seen him 20 times in concert and love Sabbath and Iron Maiden.....typing Ozzy at the end of every post is something I've always done....as far as the pats...I agree that we should all beat on them...everytime you guys or even the jets play the pats I'm rooting for whoever is playing them...as far as this board,I like it...it reminds me of ours(finsheaven)tho I think we have more fans arguing with each other all the time...lol...in the end football should be fun,is not life of death...you guys are welcome to visit our board anytime.

Ozzy rules!!

[mybills]

You had me at..

I hate NE and hope they punish them again
:evil:

[madness]

:welcome:

You guys are looking to be righting the ship but I'm sorry you'll have to lose in 3 different countries in a 2 year span. :D

[LtFinFan66]

:welcome:......we make Fish fans mods around here....:coocoo:that's just madness right there

[HHURRICANE]

Hey guys,first time on this board...just wondering what you guys think of your team this year and what you guys think of the dolphins and the division....I like what you hguys did on draft day...I was hoping we'd get James Hardy as I think he's gonna be very hard to defence and they you have Evans too so it'll be hard for any secondary to keep up with those guys.

I feel good about the changes we've made in Miami starting with Parcells....we've added depth,a lot of good special team players and we beefed up both lines...our defence SHOULD be better at stoping the run and our running game should be better too....don't think we'll make the playoffs but we should have a better season with more young players.

Anyway,good luck to you guys this coming season unless you're playing the Dolphins of course and I hate NE and hope they punish them again for the game they taped,including 2 agaisnt us when we had a pretty good team.

Ozzy rules!!

Parcells is going to make this team much better. His willingness to clean house quickly just proves it even more. If Miami had moved Campbell I think they would have been even better off for a quicker turn around in 2009.

I think if Miami wins 6-7 games that would be a major accomplishment.

Th Bills still have alot of question marks and I'm not ready to call them a playoff team. 9-7.

[Marvelous]

:welcome: fishy

------HOLY!!! They made a Phin Fan a MOD?? :wtf:

[feelthepain]

Parcells is going to make this team much better. His willingness to clean house quickly just proves it even more. If Miami had moved Campbell I think they would have been even better off for a quicker turn around in 2009.

I think if Miami wins 6-7 games that would be a major accomplishment.

Th Bills still have alot of question marks and I'm not ready to call them a playoff team. 9-7.

I think it's just as possible to see the Bills 6-10, 7-9 and the Dolphins 9-7.

[shelby]

:scratch:

Hey, happy birthday, FTP....:beers:

[feelthepain]

:scratch:

Hey, happy birthday, FTP....:beers:

Thank you!!:band:

[HHURRICANE]

I think it's just as possible to see the Bills 6-10, 7-9 and the Dolphins 9-7.

Dude, you lost bets to me three years in a row.

You want to rip on Bills fans for being overly optimistic? There is no way on God's green earth that Miami fnishes with 9 wins. No way.

And I 'd say there is a 90% chance that the Bills will finish better than Miami.

[Dr. Lecter]

I think it's just as possible to see the Bills 6-10, 7-9 and the Dolphins 9-7.

For as much as you rip us for uninhibited enthusiasm and blind faith, the Dolphins at 9-7 is blind faith and hope with no real reason to see a 8 game improvement.

BTW, Happy B-Day.

[feelthepain]

Dude, you lost bets to me three years in a row.

You want to rip on Bills fans for being overly optimistic? There is no way on God's green earth that Miami fnishes with 9 wins. No way.

And I 'd say there is a 90% chance that the Bills will finish better than Miami.

I think it's funny how you think this based on the fact that the Bills won 7 games and Miami won 1 game. As if that's a determining factor in the following years outcome. Face you're not of the opinion the Bills will be better then Miami for any other reason then the last years record. Lets not forget, Miami won't near the same team this year, you can't look at Miami as if they will march the exact same team back onto the field. You hardly have any evidence Miami will be 1-15 or 9-7, so how yoiu can make these claims of what Miami will be us utterly laughable and as usual wishful thinking, not fact.

BTW, I don't bet. I voice an opinion and that's as close to a bet as you'll get from me. You being right about the Bills is nothing more then luck, cause it's not like the Bills have been simply dominant the last 2 years. The Bills have been so bad the last 2 years they could eaisly have been 4-12, 3-13 as 7-9, when you have nearly the worst Offense and defense in the league 2 years running you're lucky to have won 7 games nothing more. Also Miami finished better then the Bills in 05, so I'm not sure where you learned your math but that would be 2 years....not 3.

[shelby]

The Bills are going to be much improved this year.
For starters, we won't have 14 players on IR.
Fairchild is gone. The O has improved by subtraction.
We had a decent draft and picked up some good players in FA.
i have a good feeling about this season, and i look forward to sweeping the Fish again!:squish:

[HHURRICANE]

I think it's funny how you think this based on the fact that the Bills won 7 games and Miami won 1 game. As if that's a determining factor in the following years outcome. Face you're not of the opinion the Bills will be better then Miami for any other reason then the last years record. Lets not forget, Miami won't near the same team this year, you can't look at Miami as if they will march the exact same team back onto the field. You hardly have any evidence Miami will be 1-15 or 9-7, so how yoiu can make these claims of what Miami will be us utterly laughable and as usual wishful thinking, not fact.

BTW, I don't bet. I voice an opinion and that's as close to a bet as you'll get from me. You being right about the Bills is nothing more then luck, cause it's not like the Bills have been simply dominant the last 2 years. The Bills have been so bad the last 2 years they could eaisly have been 4-12, 3-13 as 7-9, when you have nearly the worst Offense and defense in the league 2 years running you're lucky to have won 7 games nothing more. Also Miami finished better then the Bills in 05, so I'm not sure where you learned your math but that would be 2 years....not 3.

I didn't read anthying past the first few sentences.

Find me one person in the media that thinks you can get to .500.

One, anywhere!!

[feelthepain]

For as much as you rip us for uninhibited enthusiasm and blind faith, the Dolphins at 9-7 is blind faith and hope with no real reason to see a 8 game improvement.

BTW, Happy B-Day.
The difference is, I say "COULD", most Bill fans aren't using that word. Most are acting and talking as if the Bills winning and making a playoff push is a done deal, based on nothing more then hope. It's funny, Bill fans can tell Dolphin fans we won't be much next year based on what Miami did last year, but Bill fans can tell everyone how this year the Bills will be a playoff team based on last year! Based on what?

I find that funny considering how bad the Bills were. It's not me making numbers up here. The Bills were almost last on offense and defense...the Dolphins weren't. You can tell Dolphin fans we will still be a bad team based on our record, but your sub 500. record, offensive and defensive stats don't apply and have nothing to do with 08?? The Dolphins lost more games then they won...so did the Bills. The Dolphins didn't make the playoffs...neither did the Bills. The Dolphins didn't have a winning record against teams with a winning record..neither did the Bills.

The only thing the Bills did better then the fins in 07 was play slightly better against bad teams, yet this "one difference" makes the Bills a playoff team and the Dolphins will be the same bad team??

If the Dolphins were coming off the 30th ranked offense and the 31st ranked defense and had a 7-9 season the last 2 years and we were telling the fans of a Bills team that went 2-14, that we would not only compete for the division, but make a playoff run!! You people would be bouncing off the walls and telling us we're are nuts. Bill fans do this and you can't understand why anyone would argue against the opinion?? But I just refuse to respect the Bills...yeah, OK!!!!

And thank you for wishing me a HBD!!:D:

[feelthepain]

I didn't read anthying past the first few sentences.

Find me one person in the media that thinks you can get to .500.

One, anywhere!!

Find one person.....just "ONE" that had the Giants a SB winner in 07, much less winning a SB game against the Pats!!!!!! I think that pretty much puts to rest what the media thinks!!!

[justasportsfan]

I think it's funny how you think this based on the fact that the Bills won 7 games and Miami won 1 game. As if that's a determining factor in the following years outcome. Face you're not of the opinion the Bills will be better then Miami for any other reason then the last years record. Lets not forget, Miami won't near the same team this year, you can't look at Miami as if they will march the exact same team back onto the field. You hardly have any evidence Miami will be 1-15 or 9-7, so how yoiu can make these claims of what Miami will be us utterly laughable and as usual wishful thinking, not fact.

BTW, I don't bet. I voice an opinion and that's as close to a bet as you'll get from me. You being right about the Bills is nothing more then luck, cause it's not like the Bills have been simply dominant the last 2 years. The Bills have been so bad the last 2 years they could eaisly have been 4-12, 3-13 as 7-9, when you have nearly the worst Offense and defense in the league 2 years running you're lucky to have won 7 games nothing more. Also Miami finished better then the Bills in 05, so I'm not sure where you learned your math but that would be 2 years....not 3.

Translation FTP:"I don't know squat which is why I chicken out of a bet from justa and lose to HH all the time. I get owned all the time"

Happy Bday BTW!!

[yordad]

I think it's funny how you think this based on the fact that the Bills won 7 games and Miami won 1 game. As if that's a determining factor in the following years outcome. Face you're not of the opinion the Bills will be better then Miami for any other reason then the last years record. Lets not forget, Miami won't near the same team this year, you can't look at Miami as if they will march the exact same team back onto the field. You hardly have any evidence Miami will be 1-15 or 9-7, so how yoiu can make these claims of what Miami will be us utterly laughable and as usual wishful thinking, not fact.

BTW, I don't bet. I voice an opinion and that's as close to a bet as you'll get from me. You being right about the Bills is nothing more then luck, cause it's not like the Bills have been simply dominant the last 2 years. The Bills have been so bad the last 2 years they could eaisly have been 4-12, 3-13 as 7-9, when you have nearly the worst Offense and defense in the league 2 years running you're lucky to have won 7 games nothing more. Also Miami finished better then the Bills in 05, so I'm not sure where you learned your math but that would be 2 years....not 3.Gez dude, I stopped reading this after, "I think it's funny how you think this based on the fact that the Bills won 7 games and Miami won 1 game."

Your the same guy that keeps bringing up when the Bills defense finished near last year (in yards allowed)despite the fact more the half of the starting D will be different this year. And, NTM, your phins averaged less then 14pts. a game vs that banged up unit.

But, I still won't put you on ignore, because I get a good chuckle out of almost all your post.

[feelthepain]

The Bills are going to be much improved this year.
For starters, we won't have 14 players on IR.
Fairchild is gone. The O has improved by subtraction.
We had a decent draft and picked up some good players in FA.
i have a good feeling about this season, and i look forward to sweeping the Fish again!:squish:

Ohhh, so your teams changes equall success, but the Dolphins changes equall another bad season? Got it. Well I can see where your thinking has merrit.....oh wait, no I don't! Seems to me what it comes down to is Bill fans allow themselves to see success for their team, but that's all they see. Cause you're not using the same logic for both teams when determining what 08 will be.

Regardless of stats and records, the same logic should apply to both teams to determine the 08 season "if" you're going to be mature and fair about it. When Bill fans evaluate their team and where they stand, they ignore any negative about 07 and focus only on the positives. Then they add their FA's, trades and rookies to over inflate their opinion of their team. Why overinflate? Cause like I said Bill fans ignore their record, their stats and their recent history of winning or lack of winning against good teams, if you want to be a playoff team, you better beat the good teams too!! In the last 2 yeasrs the Dolphins have more wins against winning teams then the Bills.

When the Bill fans evaluate the Dolphins, they ignore any positive and only focus on the negative. Sorta like one fromula to determine one teams future and anouther formula to determine another teams future. That's hardly consistent...other then it being the same fromula Bill fans use every year.

[feelthepain]

Gez dude, I stopped reading this after, "I think it's funny how you think this based on the fact that the Bills won 7 games and Miami won 1 game."

Your the same guy that keeps bringing up when the Bills defense finished near last year (in yards allowed)despite the fact more the half of the starting D will be different this year. And, NTM, your phins averaged less then 14pts. a game vs that banged up unit.

But, I still won't put you on ignore, because I get a good chuckle out of almost all your post.

Oh right the Dolphins didn't have Ronnie Brown, Chris Chambers, Trent Green, Yeremiah Bell and Zach Thomas when we played the Bills in either game last year, but all those guy's suck and are all backups anyways right??

[feelthepain]

Translation FTP:"I don't know squat which is why I chicken out of a bet from justa and lose to HH all the time. I get owned all the time"

Happy Bday BTW!!

Oh look the princess awoke...whats the matter, that nasty ol "pea" finally get ya out of bed??

[shelby]

Actually FTP, you have Parcells, and i'm sure he will turn the team around. i agree the Dophins have made a lot of positive changes. i'm not sure they'll win 9 games, however.

As a Bills fan, it is my obligation to want a sweep of the fish. It's nothing personal against you.

[HHURRICANE]

Actually FTP, you have Parcells, and i'm sure he will turn the team around. i agree the Dophins have made a lot of positive changes. i'm not sure they'll win 9 games, however.

As a Bills fan, it is my obligation to want a sweep of the fish. It's nothing personal against you.

Shelby, if anything happens to our spouses I'm calling you!!!

[yordad]

Oh right the Dolphins didn't have Ronnie Brown, Chris Chambers, Trent Green, Yeremiah Bell and Zach Thomas when we played the Bills in either game last year, but all those guy's suck and are all backups anyways right??News flash: You should get over Chris Chambers. He couldn't be in your starting lineup because he was too busy playing for a different team.

But yeah, none would start for the Bills. Brown is the only one you could make a case for, IMO, and that ain't happening. So yeah, your saviors would be our scrubs.

[feelthepain]

Actually FTP, you have Parcells, and i'm sure he will turn the team around. i agree the Dophins have made a lot of positive changes. i'm not sure they'll win 9 games, however.

As a Bills fan, it is my obligation to want a sweep of the fish. It's nothing personal against you.

Hey look, I have nothing against good football talk or the majority of Bill fans here. You never see me say the Bills will suck this year, I do think it's a stretch for them to be a playoff team and I think they are no better off then the Dolphins. Seriously, the Bills did nothing to seperate themselves last year. They had the same record and offensive and defensive stats as they did in 06. They had just one win against a winning team just like 06, No imporvement's!

You won't see me tell Bill fans not to believe in their team, what I will do is try to curve the enthusiasm because I think it's a bit over the top when you look at both the Dolphins and Bills and what they've done the last 5 years.

Just winning 7 games against bad teams is hardly what I would call an accomplishment or reason to believe any team is ready to take the next step. Remember 4 of the Bills 7 wins were against the Dolphns and Jets. That's not exactly the Pats and Colts your team beat 4 times heck that's not even Broncos and Eagles. The Dolphins should have won the game in Miam the last 2 years, we lead in every statistic in those games. It just goes to show winning doesn't always go to the team that should win.

[feelthepain]

News flash: You should get over Chris Chambers. He couldn't be in your starting lineup because he was too busy playing for a different team.

But yeah, none would start for the Bills. Brown is the only one you could make a case for, IMO, and that ain't happening. So yeah, your saviors would be our scrubs.

OMG....THAT HAS TO BE THE DUMMBEST, MOST HOMERISTIC POST I'VE EVER READ!!!!!!!!!!!!

I didn't relize,

JP Losman and Trent Edwards were even in the same area code as Trent Green.
Nor did I realize Paul Posluzny would even be allowed to carry Zach Thomas's piss bucket much less be ahead of him on ANY DEPTH CHART ANYWHERE IN THE UNIVERSE.

As for Chambers he wasn't on our team due to trade, but that somehow means we didn't lose his talnent??? Gee love that logic.

Oh and BTW before Ronnie went down he was leading the league in total yards from the LOS!!! YES THE LEAGUE!!!!!!!!!!!

[feelthepain]

Shelby, if anything happens to our spouses I'm calling you!!!


.....WHAT??:D:

[Luisito23]

Hey look, I have nothing against good football talk or the majority of Bill fans here



Likewise FTP....Likewise....:shake:

[LtFinFan66]

Keep it civil or this goes to the smack zone. One and only warning!

Thank you ladies and gents

[yordad]

OMG....THAT HAS TO BE THE DUMMBEST, MOST HOMERISTIC POST I'VE EVER READ!!!!!!!!!!!!

I didn't relize,

JP Losman and Trent Edwards were even in the same area code as Trent Green. Well, I truely am glad I could be the one to tell you Green sucks. But your right, they aren't in the same area code. Literally.
Nor did I realize Paul Posluzny would even be allowed to carry Zach Thomas's piss bucket much less be ahead of him on ANY DEPTH CHART ANYWHERE IN THE UNIVERSE. Maybe 10 years ago, but I am glad you didn't notice. Otherwise, I wouldn't be able to be the one to tell you he also sucks.

As for Chambers he wasn't on our team due to trade, but that somehow means we didn't lose his talnent??? Gee love that logic. That means your team didn't want his "talent" so how good could it have really been? And, how does that change the fact he is on another teams roster?

Oh and BTW before Ronnie went down he was leading the league in total yards from the LOS!!! YES THE LEAGUE!!!!!!!!!!! Well, when you are a teams only option, your going to get a lot of touches. SO tell me, where was he in the standings when the season ended? And, NTM, Lynch was a rookie. Come back in 7 months and make this claim. I would figure most Bills fans would rather have Lynch, but feel free to start a poll.I should also point out that not only are you not getting Chambers back, you also are not getting Thomas back, and I don't think anyone wants Green.

[feelthepain]

I should also point out that not only are you not getting Chambers back, you also are not getting Thomas back, and I don't think anyone wants Green.

That has nothing to do with the fact that we started last year with those players healthy and in the lineup and by the time we played the Bills we had none of them. Bill fans think they're beating the best the Dolphins have to offer, well we didn't have any of those players in 07 when we played, I'd say that was a huge advantage for the Bills, but you'll never hear Bill fans talk about that when they're blowing air up their skirts about how they dominated the Dolphins. The Only player the Bills didn't have in either game against the Dolphins 07 was a rookie LB....wow, that's significant!!!!!!!

[Dr. Lecter]

That has nothing to do with the fact that we started last year with those players healthy and in the lineup and by the time we played the Bills we had none of them. Bill fans think they're beating the best the Dolphins have to offer, well we didn't have any of those players in 07 when we played, I'd say that was a huge advantage for the Bills, but you'll never hear Bill fans talk about that when they're blowing air up their skirts about how they dominated the Dolphins. The Only player the Bills didn't have in either game against the Dolphins 07 was a rookie LB....wow, that's significant!!!!!!!

They were also missing their starting FS, the openeing day started at CB, their 3rd DE (who plays as much as a starter), the #TE who might have bees #1 at that time and others.

It was much more than one rookie LB.

[BillsOverDolphins]

however Ozzy was better known for his work in 70's with Black Sabbath.


as for the Fish... they seem to be on the right track. They will need a few years to get all the pieces together.

At this point I want to see all Dolphin, Jets and Bills fans unite and spend there time pummeling the Patriot fans repeatedly in unison for the foreseeable future
much like the fins

[Mike13]

:welcome:......we make Fish fans mods around here....:coocoo:

...........Clumpy?




much like the fins

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i112/Johnny_Utah26/Stuff/RIMSHOT.jpg

[Marvelous]

I know that the Phin mod is probably the coolest Phin fan i've seen on the net but making him a mod seems wrong.. Call me oldschool but the Phins are enemy #1! Not NE or Jets. Sure NE owns us & Jet sweep feels owe so good but Phin fans are it.
-When did this happen?
-Who made it happen?
-Why did it happen?

-Like i said LT, your a chill dude & we've already been down the path we're you negged me to death, but it's not personal that you don't belong here as a leader imo.. Heck you we're a unofficial leader without the title. Why the title? I wont mention this again folks. fyi..
--Thk1138 " Move along!"

[LtFinFan66]

I know that the Phin mod is probably the coolest Phin fan i've seen on the net but making him a mod seems wrong.. Call me oldschool but the Phins are enemy #1! Not NE or Jets. Sure NE owns us & Jet sweep feels owe so good but Phin fans are it.
-When did this happen?
-Who made it happen?
-Why did it happen?

-Like i said LT, your a chill dude & we've already been down the path we're you negged me to death, but it's not personal that you don't belong here as a leader imo.. Heck you we're a unofficial leader without the title. Why the title? I wont mention this again folks. fyi..
--Thk1138 " Move along!"I am a Mod only in the NFL zone. The place to talk about non-Bills NFL stuff

[jamze132]

I think it's funny how you think this based on the fact that the Bills won 7 games and Miami won 1 game. As if that's a determining factor in the following years outcome. Face you're not of the opinion the Bills will be better then Miami for any other reason then the last years record. Lets not forget, Miami won't near the same team this year, you can't look at Miami as if they will march the exact same team back onto the field. You hardly have any evidence Miami will be 1-15 or 9-7, so how yoiu can make these claims of what Miami will be us utterly laughable and as usual wishful thinking, not fact.

BTW, I don't bet. I voice an opinion and that's as close to a bet as you'll get from me. You being right about the Bills is nothing more then luck, cause it's not like the Bills have been simply dominant the last 2 years. The Bills have been so bad the last 2 years they could eaisly have been 4-12, 3-13 as 7-9, when you have nearly the worst Offense and defense in the league 2 years running you're lucky to have won 7 games nothing more. Also Miami finished better then the Bills in 05, so I'm not sure where you learned your math but that would be 2 years....not 3.
Its a good thing you don't bet because 99.97% of your posts are absolutely horrible. And if you equate that with real life, you must really struggle to get up out of bed every morning and out of the basement.

[jamze132]

Actually FTP, you have Parcells, and i'm sure he will turn the team around. i agree the Dophins have made a lot of positive changes. i'm not sure they'll win 9 games, however.

As a Bills fan, it is my obligation to want a sweep of the fish. It's nothing personal against you.
Shelby, when are you goig to learn that you can be rational with FTP? The entire world is out to get him...

[jamze132]

Hey look, I have nothing against good football talk or the majority of Bill fans here. You never see me say the Bills will suck this year, I do think it's a stretch for them to be a playoff team and I think they are no better off then the Dolphins. Are you serious? How could we be "no better off than the Dolphins" when we have consistently beaten you for around 3-4 years now? And I think it's 5 games in a row? Seriously, the Bills did nothing to seperate themselves last year. They had the same record and offensive and defensive stats as they did in 06. They had just one win against a winning team just like 06, No imporvement's! Yes our offense and defense have sucked for a few years now, but who on this board or anywhere else is disputing that? Is that the only thing you can acurately say about Buffalo?
You won't see me tell Bill fans not to believe in their team, what I will do is try to curve the enthusiasm because I think it's a bit over the top when you look at both the Dolphins and Bills and what they've done the last 5 years.

Just winning 7 games against bad teams is hardly what I would call an accomplishment or reason to believe any team is ready to take the next step. Remember 4 of the Bills 7 wins were against the Dolphns and Jets. But you can't even say that about your team... That's not exactly the Pats and Colts your team beat 4 times heck that's not even Broncos and Eagles. The Dolphins should have won the game in Miam the last 2 years, we lead in every statistic in those games. It just goes to show winning doesn't always go to the team that should win.

Holy crap, FTP. It's almost pointless to argue with you but it sure is fun. You come onto a BILLS board and expect people to be biased? WTF are you thinking? If I went to a Phin board, I would expect nothing less than unbiasness. It's natrual. Its quite obvious you can't hold an intelectual coversation about football with someone in real life because you spend a lot of time trying to do so with BILLS FANS who are never going to see your reduclous and callou point of view. But I am glad you come to this site, you trully are the highlight of my day.




Oh, Dante sucks...

[mybills]

Find one person.....just "ONE" that had the Giants a SB winner in 07, much less winning a SB game against the Pats!!!!!! I think that pretty much puts to rest what the media thinks!!!
:wave:

[mybills]

2008
fins - 5 wins
bills - 11 wins
jets - 9 wins
ne - 9 wins

[LtFinFan66]

:wave:judging by the second half of his post I think he meant media people but good on ya if you called it

[mybills]

I called it in this forum weeks before the playoffs. It was a thread about who had a chance to beat ne. I got laughed at, too. The laugh was on them, though. :D

[DynaPaul]

DIO!