Throwing Hardy under the Bus!!!

[kernowboy]

Just read some more information about the James Hardy alleged incident.

There does seem to be a lot of 2+2 = 27.

It seems the situation that because Hardy has a permit to carry a small handgun and was in a fight with his old man, therefore he must have pulled a gun on him.

Hardy has not been charged with anything.

His father has said there was an argument not altercation and that Hardy did not pull a gun on him.

Only a female witness said he pulled a handgun. She called the police and maybe chose to big it up recognising Hardy as a star. Boring stories do not make money for witnesses to sell. As he has a legal license to carry a gun, might have meant he had the gun on it, but doesn't mean he pulled the gun out on his old man. But the witness could easily have implied he did, so not to feel that she has wasted police time.

I have only heard that this witness said a gun was pulled. No other source seems to have confirmed this.

Maybe fans should put their toys back into the pram?

[Night Train]

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I'm going to my daughters dance recital Saturday, right after I load and pack my Glock.

[YardRat]

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I'm going to my daughters dance recital Saturday, right after I load and pack my Glock.

Make sure you keep the safety on until you actually reach the destination.

[Luisito23]

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Hardy's still aight with me....It's just another case of someone trying to be famous that all.

[Mitchy moo]

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This may end up being a cheap lesson for Hardy about how even little things can blow up into big things when you're a pro athlete.

Just for the record, getting a gun permit in FL is as easy as getting a drivers license. You basically ask for it and get it, nothing difficult. Many people also carry guns down here for protection and / or personal security. As for packing one for a family BBQ, well that's a another story.

[Confused]

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slow news week.

[TheGhostofJimKelly]

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slow news week.

very slow.

[acehole]

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Please.

She did not sell this story...it seems like you are trying to sell this one.

IT is what it is. No more no less.

Just read some more information about the James Hardy alleged incident.

There does seem to be a lot of 2+2 = 27.

It seems the situation that because Hardy has a permit to carry a small handgun and was in a fight with his old man, therefore he must have pulled a gun on him.

Hardy has not been charged with anything.

His father has said there was an argument not altercation and that Hardy did not pull a gun on him.

Only a female witness said he pulled a handgun. She called the police and maybe chose to big it up recognising Hardy as a star. Boring stories do not make money for witnesses to sell. As he has a legal license to carry a gun, might have meant he had the gun on it, but doesn't mean he pulled the gun out on his old man. But the witness could easily have implied he did, so not to feel that she has wasted police time.

I have only heard that this witness said a gun was pulled. No other source seems to have confirmed this.

Maybe fans should put their toys back into the pram?

[dasaybz]

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I just hope that this isn't the beginning of many altercations with this guy. He's already beat up his girlfriend and pulled a gun on his dad before he's taken one snap in this league.

Not a very good start.

[mayotm]

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Please.

She did not sell this story...it seems like you are trying to sell this one.

IT is what it is. No more no less.

Unless you were there, you don't know what happened.

[EDS]

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Just read some more information about the James Hardy alleged incident.

There does seem to be a lot of 2+2 = 27.

It seems the situation that because Hardy has a permit to carry a small handgun and was in a fight with his old man, therefore he must have pulled a gun on him.

Hardy has not been charged with anything.

His father has said there was an argument not altercation and that Hardy did not pull a gun on him.

Only a female witness said he pulled a handgun. She called the police and maybe chose to big it up recognising Hardy as a star. Boring stories do not make money for witnesses to sell. As he has a legal license to carry a gun, might have meant he had the gun on it, but doesn't mean he pulled the gun out on his old man. But the witness could easily have implied he did, so not to feel that she has wasted police time.

I have only heard that this witness said a gun was pulled. No other source seems to have confirmed this.

Maybe fans should put their toys back into the pram?

This may all be true, but you also have to consider the fact that the father is probably looking for a pay day and knows that reporting that his son pulled a gun on him may decrease his sons future earnings. So now, potentially, the dad has a bargining chip with the son to get more money out of him - because he didn't report him and if the son doesn't give him the money he wants then he will start talking.

Obviously the above is just conjecture, and I hope we never have to hear about Hardy and his gun collection again.

[LifetimeBillsFan]

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Here's another way to look at it:

Hardy may be an athlete, but his father spent 10 years in jail. A lot of guys who spend that much time in jail aren't exactly nice guys or push-overs...I mean we may not be talking about your typical suburban father here.

The kid gets into an serious argument with his father--and who knows what got said at that point--and maybe he felt threatened to the extent that he felt that he needed to pull the pistol out to let the father know that he wasn't going to be bullied, etc.

You never know. And, we don't have enough information about what went down to really be able to draw any conclusions about that.

Now, on the other hand, why the kid was walking around and went to the house with a gun in his pocket is a different story.

Not the brightest thing to do--even if he has a license and is allowed to carry a licensed gun in that state--considering how many pro athletes have recently been arrested for just carrying a gun or having a gun in their car.

It sounds to me like Hardy is a young man who needs to get away from some of his family and learn some things about being a professional athlete pretty quickly. And, probably, grow up (in a certain sense) as well. I just hope that happens soon. Before he ends up getting into the kind of trouble that he can't walk away from and/or that impacts his football career.

[justasportsfan]

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It was a cell phone not a gun. Ax Vicks brother.

[Goobylal]

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Here's another way to look at it:

Hardy may be an athlete, but his father spent 10 years in jail. A lot of guys who spend that much time in jail aren't exactly nice guys or push-overs...I mean we may not be talking about your typical suburban father here.

The kid gets into an serious argument with his father--and who knows what got said at that point--and maybe he felt threatened to the extent that he felt that he needed to pull the pistol out to let the father know that he wasn't going to be bullied, etc.

I think that's exactly what happened. I doubt Hardy just pulled out a gun and started waving it at his father for no reason whatsoever. Just like he didn't "beat up" (which was probably him pushing her against a hard wall) his girlfriend without being provoked, which while it's still wrong, it's like throwing punches at her for no reason.

You never know. And, we don't have enough information about what went down to really be able to draw any conclusions about that.

Now, on the other hand, why the kid was walking around and went to the house with a gun in his pocket is a different story.

Not the brightest thing to do--even if he has a license and is allowed to carry a licensed gun in that state--considering how many pro athletes have recently been arrested for just carrying a gun or having a gun in their car.

I'd bet the area he was visiting wasn't exactly the 'burbs.

It sounds to me like Hardy is a young man who needs to get away from some of his family and learn some things about being a professional athlete pretty quickly. And, probably, grow up (in a certain sense) as well. I just hope that happens soon. Before he ends up getting into the kind of trouble that he can't walk away from and/or that impacts his football career.

I agree. I hope that Skooby is right and that this is a cheap lesson for young James and that he learns from it.

[!Papacrunk!]

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so not to get on some other tangent here, but for those (me) that are too lazy to google, what was the end result of the '06 incident where Hardy hurt his girlfriend and also infant?