Over/Under on wins

[YardRat]

http://www.covers.com/articles/articles.aspx?theArt=161447&t=0

Buffalo isn’t getting much love from oddsmakers, as they have them down for another seven to eight win season. I get the feeling that they could thrive in the top heavy AFC East. For that reason I’m looking to go over 7.5 wins, and hoping to get reduced juice at 8 at some point prior to the season kicking off.

[Night Train]

I was going to say 8. That's fair.

[Mitchy moo]

HHmmmmmmmmm............

[Don't Panic]

8 is definitely fair, 9 is realistic, 10 is within reach... 11 would be the ideal. Any more than that and I think we'd all be pretty surprised. Happy, but surprised.

[YardRat]

I'm taking the over.

[LifetimeBillsFan]

I think 7.5 is a low number given the schedule and additions.

Given that the Bills managed to win 7 games last season, beating all of the lower tier teams on their schedule, despite all of the injuries, I would say, if a lot of things go bad, I would make 6 wins the floor for what they could do this season--because they will play hard every game.

I see 9 wins being very reachable with their schedule, even if some of the teams they play are improved.

If things go right and as they should, 10 wins are possible. But, I think the absolute ceiling, even if everything goes extremely well for them this season, would be 11 wins. If they do any better than that, I will be more than very pleasantly surprised.

But, given that 8 wins would be sufficient to win an "over" bet, I like their odds to at least do that well this season and would take the "over".

[Jan Reimers]

I think we'll win 10.

[PromoTheRobot]

They beat the over last year (it was 6.) I'd take the over again.

PTR

[djjimkelly]

i wouldnt touch the over with a 10 foot pole.

[feelthepain]

I think 7.5 is a low number given the schedule and additions.

Given that the Bills managed to win 7 games last season, beating all of the lower tier teams on their schedule, despite all of the injuries, I would say, if a lot of things go bad, I would make 6 wins the floor for what they could do this season--because they will play hard every game.

I see 9 wins being very reachable with their schedule, even if some of the teams they play are improved.

If things go right and as they should, 10 wins are possible. But, I think the absolute ceiling, even if everything goes extremely well for them this season, would be 11 wins. If they do any better than that, I will be more than very pleasantly surprised.

But, given that 8 wins would be sufficient to win an "over" bet, I like their odds to at least do that well this season and would take the "over".
Really? What about your QB who tossed more Int's then TD's and had a losing record? Does that position suddenly become a strength as you use the opposite logic when you evalute the up coming season? Seems to me there doesn't seem to be any consistency when you evaluate your teams 08 season. Basically your weaknesses will become strengths and your strengths will reamin strengths. Using this logic why not just hand the Bills the SB trophy and avoid wasting everyones time??

[YardRat]

Really? What about your QB who tossed more Int's then TD's and had a losing record? Does that position suddenly become a strength as you use the opposite logic when you evalute the up coming season? Seems to me there doesn't seem to be any consistency when you evaluate your teams 08 season. Basically your weaknesses will become strengths and your strengths will reamin strengths. Using this logic why not just hand the Bills the SB trophy and avoid wasting everyones time??

How about addressing the actual post, instead of making up your own info to respond to. Nowhere in LTBF's post did he even refer to the QB, or any strengths and weaknesses of the team.

If you want to mentally masturbate some more, I'd prefer you do it on your own board and not ours.

[TacklingDummy]

This is almost a lock to go under like the fins and falcons did last year.

[RockStar36]

If the sportsbook I use is going with 7.5 I'll bet the over before the season

[Philagape]

Over.

The team has lost nothing valuable, and even if some of newcomers make an impact, or some of the young players improve, then it's still a better team and possibly a much better team.
For the team to remain stagnant or take a step back, that would mean none of the newcomers help and none of the young players improve. What are the odds of that? Logic and probability are on the Bills' side.

[feelthepain]

How about addressing the actual post, instead of making up your own info to respond to. Nowhere in LTBF's post did he even refer to the QB, or any strengths and weaknesses of the team.

If you want to mentally masturbate some more, I'd prefer you do it on your own board and not ours.
I think I did respond the the thread. In order to give your over/under it has to be based on an evaluation, does it not? Why don't you stop crying because not everyone see's the Bills as an imporvement?!

[hydro]

I think I did respond the the thread. In order to give your over/under it has to be based on an evaluation, does it not? Why don't stop crying because not everyone see's the Bills as an imporvement?!

:headscrat

[feelthepain]

:headscrat

happy?

[hydro]

sure

[yordad]

7.5? Over all day long.

[Mitchy moo]

:skooby:

[YardRat]

I think I did respond the the thread. In order to give your over/under it has to be based on an evaluation, does it not? Why don't you stop crying because not everyone see's the Bills as an imporvement?!

Lesson #1-There's a difference between a post and a thread.

Lesson #2-If you're responding to the thread, than quote the initial post.

Lesson #3-If you quote a post other than the first, it's generally understood that you are responding to that specific post.

Lesson #4-Quit whining anytime anybody mentions anything positive about the Bills on a Bills board. You want to degrade the team, go hang out with the other losers at any other Fins site.

Lesson #5-Obviously, your post is a dumbass.

Lesson #6- 1 and 15, 2-0 sweep. Scoreboard, so STFU.

[Mitchy moo]

Lesson #1-There's a difference between a post and a thread.

Lesson #2-If you're responding to the thread, than quote the initial post.

Lesson #3-If you quote a post other than the first, it's generally understood that you are responding to that specific post.

Lesson #4-Quit whining anytime anybody mentions anything positive about the Bills on a Bills board. You want to degrade the team, go hang out with the other losers at any other Fins site.

Lesson #5-Obviously, your post is a dumbass.

Lesson #6- 1 and 15, 2-0 sweep. Scoreboard, so STFU.

Lol. :respect:

[TigerJ]

I never bet money, but if I did, I'd go with the over. I will address the QB situation. The assessment of a fair number of people outside of Buffalo is that Trent Edwards handled himself pretty well for a rookie. Many think he is the real deal. Yes, he very much looked like a rookie at times, but given that he seems fairly poised, reads defenses pretty quickly and has a quick release, it's not unreasonable to think he may improve this season. Add to that the fact that his young offensive line should improve to give him more time and the Bills added a big target to hopefully make it a bit easier to get into the endzone, and it's to a complete shot in the dark to think they might be a little better offensively.

Then, the addition of Stroud and Mitchell, and the further maturation of John McCargo, the Bills may be better at stopping the run, while McKelvin obviously adds to DB depth. At this point in time, there is still a lot of guesswork. Training camp injuries and disappointments can drastically change the outlook. That said, I would not be at all surprised if the Bills won 9 or 10 games this season. Nor would I be surprised if Miami won 3 or 4. Bill Parcells hasn't exactly been standing still. I would be very surprised if the Patriots went 16-0 again.

[feelthepain]

Lesson #1-There's a difference between a post and a thread.

Lesson #2-If you're responding to the thread, than quote the initial post.

Lesson #3-If you quote a post other than the first, it's generally understood that you are responding to that specific post.

Lesson #4-Quit whining anytime anybody mentions anything positive about the Bills on a Bills board. You want to degrade the team, go hang out with the other losers at any other Fins site.

Lesson #5-Obviously, your post is a dumbass.

Lesson #6- 1 and 15, 2-0 sweep. Scoreboard, so STFU.

Lesson #7 90% of Bill fans are immature tools, much like yourself.

[PromoTheRobot]

Lesson #7 90% of Bill fans are immature tools, much like yourself.
As opposed to Fins fans who all carry Mensa cards. Call us when your team wins a game.

PTR

[feelthepain]

As opposed to Fins fans who all carry Mensa cards. Call us when your team wins a game.

PTR

Say's the fan of one of the least successful teams in the NFL since their inception.

[YardRat]

Lesson #7 90% of Bill fans are immature tools, much like yourself.

Lesson #8-Attack the post, not the poster. Please refer to Lesson #5 from my previous post.

Lesson #9-I can understand your anger issues. Being a fan of a team that was 'owned' by Jim Kelly and Co. is one thing, but being a fan of a team that has been 'owned' by JP Losman is just pathetic. I'd be pissed too.

[feelthepain]

Lesson #8-Attack the post, not the poster. Please refer to Lesson #5 from my previous post.

Lesson #9-I can understand your anger issues. Being a fan of a team that was 'owned' by Jim Kelly and Co. is one thing, but being a fan of a team that has been 'owned' by JP Losman is just pathetic. I'd be pissed too.

Lesson #10,

The Bills have done nothing in their entire career as a team to remember, nuff said!!!

[lmcshadow]

Over all the way, i think this is a pretty good squad and if the dont go so conservative on us ..... well..... :oops:

[trapezeus]

Man i wish the bills were 1-15 last year so that this year our improvements would be 3 and 4 time improvements from last year.

I'd take the over for the bills. it requires some faith, but i really do think that Edwards and lynch will do well with an OL who played an entire year together. I think a new TE and Hardy should be helpful in keeping the chains moving. I don't think the offense is going to blow anyone away, but it'll keep the defense rested and they'll start converting some of those FG drives into TD drives by midseason.

Defense, it all rests on Strouds gigantic shoulders. if they guy can play at 50% of his normal level, that helps immensely. i like our secondary now that we have 3 legit lbs.