Trent's style of QBing is going to help the O.

[HHURRICANE]

I've heard alot of complaining about dink and dunk but after watching the re-runs this kid is not Kelly Holcomb.

First off, he does a great job of leading the receiver so the player can gain yards after the catch. When Holcomb was playing they were true dump passes with the reciever getting hit right at the point of reception. I watched alot of Trent's plays get yardage after the catch.

JP has a deep ball but was also guilty of not hitting receivers in stride.

If I see a positive coming out of this it's that the timing should only get better on these type of plays. Hitting a guy in stride is big to any offense and I know this was something they wanted JP to improve on last year.

[PECKERWOOD]

Re: Trent's style of QBing is going to help the O.

Yeah, Trent is leading us to the playoffs.

[gr8slayer]

Re: Trent's style of QBing is going to help the O.

One thing that needs to improve with Edwards if we plan on being a "dink and dunk" offense (which I don't think we are) is he needs to stop throwing the ball so high; the last thing a WR wants to do is expose his body to a DB or LB and high throws lead to that.

[Philagape]

Re: Trent's style of QBing is going to help the O.

The Bills have been dink-and-dunk because of the smurf receivers. Hardy changes that. (and hopefully Johnson too)

[Night Train]

Re: Trent's style of QBing is going to help the O.

If he can actually read over the middle and not force the sideline out, it shows he's listening to Turk and not #7.

Just get the ball to the playmakers.

[acehole]

Re: Trent's style of QBing is going to help the O.

We shall see.

I've heard alot of complaining about dink and dunk but after watching the re-runs this kid is not Kelly Holcomb.

First off, he does a great job of leading the receiver so the player can gain yards after the catch. When Holcomb was playing they were true dump passes with the reciever getting hit right at the point of reception. I watched alot of Trent's plays get yardage after the catch.

JP has a deep ball but was also guilty of not hitting receivers in stride.

If I see a positive coming out of this it's that the timing should only get better on these type of plays. Hitting a guy in stride is big to any offense and I know this was something they wanted JP to improve on last year.

[acehole]

Re: Trent's style of QBing is going to help the O.

I've heard alot of complaining about dink and dunk but after watching the re-runs this kid is not Kelly Holcomb.

First off, he does a great job of leading the receiver so the player can gain yards after the catch. When Holcomb was playing they were true dump passes with the reciever getting hit right at the point of reception. I watched alot of Trent's plays get yardage after the catch.

JP has a deep ball but was also guilty of not hitting receivers in stride.

If I see a positive coming out of this it's that the timing should only get better on these type of plays. Hitting a guy in stride is big to any offense and I know this was something they wanted JP to improve on last year.

How do you know they wanted JP to improve on that again?

Basing this on the Jets game where he underthrew a 6inches on an 80 yarder?

This has got to be the stupidest knock on him.

Eli does it and wins the superbowl and it was heralded
as a great play on eli's part.

Trent style of play better improve from field goals to Td's we should no longer be focusing on JP here.

Jp is the back up.

Trents play is not to credit for yac it is wr and the type of play called...crossing routes being one.

We want to credit WR's for saving JP on a play and then credit Trent for a WR who skirts a db and runs his ass off.

Bizzarro world.

[acehole]

Re: Trent's style of QBing is going to help the O.

The Bills have been dink-and-dunk because of the smurf receivers. Hardy changes that. (and hopefully Johnson too)

when assesing a qb one must olny look at the qb.

by philagape

[Al the Bills Fan]

Re: Trent's style of QBing is going to help the O.

I think Hardy changes things a bit for our offense (maybe not immediately) once he is comfortable in the offense and is playing at the #2 spot he will certainly take pressure off of Evans. It is hard to throw down the field when your deep guy is constantly seeing double and triple coverage. He will be our redzone guy (fade routes in the end zone) and hopefully be the Eric Moulds in his prime type of reciever that this team needs. Will it happen this year???? Remains to be seen

I think Hardy will be starting by week 4 or 5 (I hope sooner) but even then my expectations aren't super high for him this year, it is awfully hard for a rookie WR to make a big impact. With that said, I think he will be special once he has got some NFL time under his belt. A great fit for our #2 opposite Evans.

[LifetimeBillsFan]

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I think that it is so early that it is really impossible to have any real sense of what the Bills' offense is going to look like this season.

To state the obvious:

Trent Edwards is entering just his second year and first as a starter. If he is as intelligent as he appears to be and has been studying his playbook and film as much this offseason as he has said that he has, with the experience that he gained last season, he should make a noticeable step forward this season.

But, since the Bills are only halfway through their OTAs and we really haven't had a chance to see Edwards in any kind of live action (indeed, all we have had a chance to see has been a few clips taken from here and there during the OTA sessions), it's impossible to really assess how much of a step forward he has taken thus far.

Additionally, with Schonert adding new things to the offense--and it always takes time to learn and adjust to new plays and concepts, we really have no idea what the offense is going to look like, as an offense, this season because it really hasn't even begun to take shape yet. Some of the things that they are practicing now will become regular features of the offense, some of them won't--some will go on the shelf and maybe only get used in one specific game, others may be scrapped entirely.

You also have new, different personnel and people being used in different positions than they may be used during the season (with Evans not working with the team, Parrish and Reed are both working on the outside a lot, which may not be the case during a lot of the season). Having three big WRs--Hardy, Johnson and Huggins--may allow Schonert to add plays that were hardly used in last year's offense. As a result, Edwards may be asked to throw passes that he never was called on to throw last year--and we have never even seen him throw those passes yet.

It is nice to see the little clips that we are able to get of what the Bills are doing in the OTAs and to read the summaries and comments that are made about how these practices went. Very nice. But, these are nothing more than brief little flashes. And, generally taken out of context of what went on during the whole practice.

Even in training camp and during the preseason games we are probably not going to see the whole offense and how the coaches intend for it to work.

So, all we are really doing now is speculating. Speculating is fun, but at this stage of the pre-preseason there isn't a whole lot of hard information for us to base our speculations on. Personally, I like what I have seen and heard thus far, but I want to see how it all starts to fit together in the preseason before I start to draw any conclusions about what may or may not work for this team this season.

The one thing that I will say at this early stage is: this Bills team is still very young--especially at some key positions, like QB--and, like all young teams, is likely going to have some ups and downs, even as the season progresses. I would caution against getting too high when they are on an "up" part of the cycle or too down when they hit a "down" part of the cycle. Health is going to be a key for this team and every practice that they are able to get through without anyone getting hurt at this point will be a positive.

For the rest, we will see how things progress and unfold once the pads go on and the team gets a chance to face some hostile opposition.

[Historian]

Re: Trent's style of QBing is going to help the O.

Just keep the chains moving.

It doesn't have to look pretty.

[shelby]

Re: Trent's style of QBing is going to help the O.

It is nice to see the little clips that we are able to get of what the Bills are doing in the OTAs and to read the summaries and comments that are made about how these practices went. Very nice. But, these are nothing more than brief little flashes. And, generally taken out of context of what went on during the whole practice.

Even in training camp and during the preseason games we are probably not going to see the whole offense and how the coaches intend for it to work.

So, all we are really doing now is speculating. Speculating is fun, but at this stage of the pre-preseason there isn't a whole lot of hard information for us to base our speculations on. Personally, I like what I have seen and heard thus far, but I want to see how it all starts to fit together in the preseason before I start to draw any conclusions about what may or may not work for this team this season.

The one thing that I will say at this early stage is: this Bills team is still very young--especially at some key positions, like QB--and, like all young teams, is likely going to have some ups and downs, even as the season progresses. I would caution against getting too high when they are on an "up" part of the cycle or too down when they hit a "down" part of the cycle. Health is going to be a key for this team and every practice that they are able to get through without anyone getting hurt at this point will be a positive.

For the rest, we will see how things progress and unfold once the pads go on and the team gets a chance to face some hostile opposition.

Excellent point.....we are all understandably excited with the new additions to the team, but LBF is right....we are a young team who should improve on last years' 7-9 record, but there may be plenty of disappointment on the way.

[gr8slayer]

Re: Trent's style of QBing is going to help the O.

As long as we improve upon our 7-9 record it's hard to be too critical. Each of the last two years we've slowly but surely gotten better and better. Hopefully this year it all culminates in a play-off appearance and maybe more.

[HHURRICANE]

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LTBF, I was just looking at last years games. It's May and I realize that we won't know much until pre-season.

Trent just impressed with this part of his game.

[PECKERWOOD]

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NOBODY CAUGHT MY SARCASM!!!!

People actually believe that Trent is the QB of the future, this place is hilarious.