It's ok if Jason Peters doesn't play

[OpIv37]

I mean, Kirk Chambers got the start at the end of last season so he has some experience. He'll be taking all the first team reps in practice this off season and he has the whole extra off-season to practice.

It's another year in the same basic system. So, he should be a lot better.

If the logic works for Edwards, Lynch and the rest of the OL, why not Kirk Chambers? Who needs Jason Peters?

[The Spaz]

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Yeah it's almost the same without the ability...

[Philagape]

Re: It's ok if Jason Peters doesn't play

Yeah it's almost the same without the ability...

Ability shmability. All the same. Don't go evaluating players on their merits!

[patmoran2006]

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if Kirk Chambers is our starting LT we better get on the horn with every QB in the country who is out of a job and tell them to stay in shape.. He'll get 8-9 QB's killed, minimum.

[mikemac2001]

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ill play some QB for the bills..... I am the champ at the shovel pass

[OpIv37]

Re: It's ok if Jason Peters doesn't play

if Kirk Chambers is our starting LT we better get on the horn with every QB in the country who is out of a job and tell them to stay in shape.. He'll get 8-9 QB's killed, minimum.

no kidding.

So much for opening up the offense and letting Trent go. He'll be a check down machine again because he won't have any other choice.

[Mitchy moo]

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no kidding.

So much for opening up the offense and letting Trent go. He'll be a check down machine again because he won't have any other choice.

That's where our 6 TE's come in handy.

[yordad]

Re: It's ok if Jason Peters doesn't play

I mean, Kirk Chambers got the start at the end of last season so he has some experience. He'll be taking all the first team reps in practice this off season and he has the whole extra off-season to practice.

It's another year in the same basic system. So, he should be a lot better.

If the logic works for Edwards, Lynch and the rest of the OL, why not Kirk Chambers? Who needs Jason Peters?

Op, I follow the sarcasm. But, would Chamber not be better? Would he not benifit from experience? Granted better then horrible still sucks, but when a player is average and gets better, he becomes better then average.

You act as if you don't believe the kid could benefit from more snaps, and more experience. As if it would make him worst or something.

No number of snaps is going to make him Jason Peters, but he can get better with every one.

Could lifting weights longer make someone stronger? Can target practice make someone a better shot? Can cooking something over and over help you make your recipe better? Can practicing your footwork make it second nature? Could blocking bigger stronger guys more and more ofter make you stronger and better at blocking? Could your stamina increase with the higher number of snaps? Could it help in learning and getting the assignments down? Understanding what the guy next to you is doing, what his strengths and weaknesses are, and what he is capable of? Could you learn more about what your capable of with more tries? Could you gain confidence?

"Gelling" might be overrated, but IMO, experience is very important. And, we all have experiences to prove experience is important.

I'll give you one.... I use to wrestle. When I was a kid and just starting out, I was at a tournament and me and this very weak looking kid were looking over the brackets. I noticed this scrawny dude standing next to me was looking at the same line I was. At the same time I asked him his name and he asked mine. Turns out, he was my next opponent. Now, if you looked at me, then him, you might of thought I weighted a lot more, and that I was going to spin him around with a finger then pin him while standing on his chest.

Turns out that although we were both young, he had been wrestling for years. And honestly, embarrassingly enough, he whooped the crap out of me. Years later I was doing that to others.

[Mitchy moo]

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Op, I follow the sarcasm. But, would Chamber not be better? Would he not benifit from experience? Granted better then horrible still sucks, but when a player is average and gets better, he becomes better then average.

You act as if you don't believe the kid could benefit from more snaps, and more experience. As if it would make him worst or something.

No number of snaps is going to make him Jason Peters, but he can get better with every one.

Could lifting weights longer make someone stronger? Can target practice make someone a better shot? Can cooking something over and over help you make your recipe better? Can practicing your footwork make it second nature? Could blocking bigger stronger guys more and more ofter make you stronger and better at blocking? Could your stamina increase with the higher number of snaps? Could it help in learning and getting the assignments down? Understanding what the guy next to you is doing, what his strengths and weaknesses are, and what he is capable of? Could you learn more about what your capable of with more tries? Could you gain confidence?

"Gelling" might be overrated, but IMO, experience is very important. And, we all have experiences to prove experience is important.

I'll give you one.... I use to wrestle. When I was a kid and just starting out, I was at a tournament and me and this very weak looking kid were looking over the brackets. I noticed this scrawny dude standing next to me was looking at the same line I was. At the same time I asked him his name and he asked mine. Turns out, he was my next opponent. Now, if you looked at me, then him, you might of thought I weighted a lot more, and that I was going to spin him around with a finger then pin him while standing on his chest.

Turns out that although we were both young, he had been wrestling for years. And honestly, embarrassingly enough, he whooped the crap out of me. Years later I was doing that to others.

Field the best team, it raises our chances to win.

[yordad]

Re: It's ok if Jason Peters doesn't play

Field the best team, it raises our chances to win.

Skoobs, did you just post this in the wrong thread? Because if not, I think you misunderstood the conversation.

No one is claiming it would be better to field our backups.

[TigerJ]

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Op, I follow the sarcasm. But, would Chamber not be better? Would he not benifit from experience? Granted better then horrible still sucks, but when a player is average and gets better, he becomes better then average.

You act as if you don't believe the kid could benefit from more snaps, and more experience. As if it would make him worst or something.

No number of snaps is going to make him Jason Peters, but he can get better with every one.

Could lifting weights longer make someone stronger? Can target practice make someone a better shot? Can cooking something over and over help you make your recipe better? Can practicing your footwork make it second nature? Could blocking bigger stronger guys more and more ofter make you stronger and better at blocking? Could your stamina increase with the higher number of snaps? Could it help in learning and getting the assignments down? Understanding what the guy next to you is doing, what his strengths and weaknesses are, and what he is capable of? Could you learn more about what your capable of with more tries? Could you gain confidence?

"Gelling" might be overrated, but IMO, experience is very important. And, we all have experiences to prove experience is important.

I'll give you one.... I use to wrestle. When I was a kid and just starting out, I was at a tournament and me and this very weak looking kid were looking over the brackets. I noticed this scrawny dude standing next to me was looking at the same line I was. At the same time I asked him his name and he asked mine. Turns out, he was my next opponent. Now, if you looked at me, then him, you might of thought I weighted a lot more, and that I was going to spin him around with a finger then pin him while standing on his chest.

Turns out that although we were both young, he had been wrestling for years. And honestly, embarrassingly enough, he whooped the crap out of me. Years later I was doing that to others.

I will grant that Chambers could be better than he was last season, but he was pretty bad when I saw him. I sincerely hope the Bills and Peters can get together soon. I get that Peters had 3 years on his contract and should play it out, but the Bills set the precedent, renegotiating deals with Schobel and Kelsay with time left on the old deals.

[Dr. Lecter]

Re: It's ok if Jason Peters doesn't play

I mean, Kirk Chambers got the start at the end of last season so he has some experience. He'll be taking all the first team reps in practice this off season and he has the whole extra off-season to practice.

It's another year in the same basic system. So, he should be a lot better.

If the logic works for Edwards, Lynch and the rest of the OL, why not Kirk Chambers? Who needs Jason Peters?

Chambers = Lynch.

Interesting.

[eyedog]

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They overpay the two overrated d-ends and under pay the best player on the team. Makes sense to me.

Maybe they should have prepared a little better for this moment. Everybody on this board fiqured out Peters was gonna come looking for a new contract to match his skills. Instead of drafting an undersized olb and fifteen cb's they should have gotten a legit o-lineman in the 4th or 5th rd.

Brandon is playing hardball now but lets not get stupid. You can't go into the season with Chambers starting. Pay him and get him in camp.

[OpIv37]

Re: It's ok if Jason Peters doesn't play

Op, I follow the sarcasm. But, would Chamber not be better? Would he not benifit from experience? Granted better then horrible still sucks, but when a player is average and gets better, he becomes better then average.

You act as if you don't believe the kid could benefit from more snaps, and more experience. As if it would make him worst or something.

No number of snaps is going to make him Jason Peters, but he can get better with every one.

Could lifting weights longer make someone stronger? Can target practice make someone a better shot? Can cooking something over and over help you make your recipe better? Can practicing your footwork make it second nature? Could blocking bigger stronger guys more and more ofter make you stronger and better at blocking? Could your stamina increase with the higher number of snaps? Could it help in learning and getting the assignments down? Understanding what the guy next to you is doing, what his strengths and weaknesses are, and what he is capable of? Could you learn more about what your capable of with more tries? Could you gain confidence?

"Gelling" might be overrated, but IMO, experience is very important. And, we all have experiences to prove experience is important.

I'll give you one.... I use to wrestle. When I was a kid and just starting out, I was at a tournament and me and this very weak looking kid were looking over the brackets. I noticed this scrawny dude standing next to me was looking at the same line I was. At the same time I asked him his name and he asked mine. Turns out, he was my next opponent. Now, if you looked at me, then him, you might of thought I weighted a lot more, and that I was going to spin him around with a finger then pin him while standing on his chest.

Turns out that although we were both young, he had been wrestling for years. And honestly, embarrassingly enough, he whooped the crap out of me. Years later I was doing that to others.

in your example, it was YEARS later and you were practicing during those years. We're talking a few MONTHS of off season here.

And anyway, it was more sarcastic, aimed at all the people who think Trent and the rest of the O is going to be good because of "experience." If they're true to their logic, Kirk Chambers in place of Jason Peters shouldn't scare them.

Of course, realistically Chambers is a HUGE downgrade. Could he become a great LT? Maybe- if Peters can become a pro bowl LT after being an undrafted TE, anything is possible. But right now, Peters is far superior.

[OpIv37]

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Chambers = Lynch.

Interesting.

why not? If it works for Lynch and Edwards and the offense as a whole, why wouldn't it work for Chambers?