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  • X-Era
    What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
    • Feb 2005
    • 27670

    Bretts poison pill!

    The Pack wrote into the trade that if the Jets traded him to the NFC North they had to give the Pack 3 1st rounders.

    But what prevents the Vikings from trading the Jets a player and pick or whatever for nothing, and then the Jets from releasing Favre who would pretty much definetely sign with the Vikes?

    Seems slimy, but the Vikes move to get Hutch was pretty slimy too.

  • RockStar36
    Dude's Little Ignorant Crony
    • Sep 2004
    • 24761

    #2
    Re: Bretts poison pill!

    If the Vikings wanted him that bad then I'm sure the Packers will be happy with all those picks. Seriously, why is everyone blinded by the one good season last year and the years of crap before them?

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    • trapezeus
      Legendary Zoner
      • Oct 2004
      • 19525

      #3
      Re: Bretts poison pill!

      nothing, but why would another team take the risk of being the middle man without a clause linking the three together. once that clause that goes in there to link the 3 team deal, the poison pill would go into effect. i'd be stunned if the trade didn't cover that easy loophole.

      Also the jets released pennington. they're keeping favre.

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      • X-Era
        What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
        • Feb 2005
        • 27670

        #4
        Re: Bretts poison pill!

        Originally posted by RockStar36
        If the Vikings wanted him that bad then I'm sure the Packers will be happy with all those picks. Seriously, why is everyone blinded by the one good season last year and the years of crap before them?
        No no, you missed it.

        The Vikes trade a player and/or picks to the Jets, the Jets then release Favre who will most assuredly then sign with the Vikes. Technically, the Jets didnt trade Favre to anyone and they dont have to give the Pack squat.

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        • X-Era
          What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
          • Feb 2005
          • 27670

          #5
          Re: Bretts poison pill!

          Originally posted by trapezeus
          nothing, but why would another team take the risk of being the middle man without a clause linking the three together. once that clause that goes in there to link the 3 team deal, the poison pill would go into effect. i'd be stunned if the trade didn't cover that easy loophole.

          Also the jets released pennington. they're keeping favre.
          They clearly want him, I just wonder if it could be done.

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          • trapezeus
            Legendary Zoner
            • Oct 2004
            • 19525

            #6
            Re: Bretts poison pill!

            maybe in the scenario you could do it, but i'm sure the packers would run to goodell again. and the vikings would be playing with some fire. Anyone could pick up favre at that point and hold him until the vikings signed another deal. I'm not sure how waivers work in that sense.

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            • Ebenezer
              Give me a minute...
              • Jul 2002
              • 73867

              #7
              Re: Bretts poison pill!

              Originally posted by RockStar36
              If the Vikings wanted him that bad then I'm sure the Packers will be happy with all those picks. Seriously, why is everyone blinded by the one good season last year and the years of crap before them?
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              • Ebenezer
                Give me a minute...
                • Jul 2002
                • 73867

                #8
                Re: Bretts poison pill!

                Originally posted by EdwardsEra
                The Pack wrote into the trade that if the Jets traded him to the NFC North they had to give the Pack 3 1st rounders.

                But what prevents the Vikings from trading the Jets a player and pick or whatever for nothing, and then the Jets from releasing Favre who would pretty much definetely sign with the Vikes?

                A little thing called waivers. About 20 NFL teams would get first crack.




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                • X-Era
                  What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 27670

                  #9
                  Re: Bretts poison pill!

                  Originally posted by Ebenezer
                  A little thing called waivers. About 20 NFL teams would get first crack.
                  And Brett could and would turn most if not all down. Besides, there are only maybe a half dozen that would really go after him.

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                  • Ebenezer
                    Give me a minute...
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 73867

                    #10
                    Re: Bretts poison pill!

                    Originally posted by EdwardsEra
                    And Brett could and would turn most if not all down. Besides, there are only maybe a half dozen that would really go after him.
                    I don't believe you can "turn down" waivers. What would be the point of a waiver system?




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                    • X-Era
                      What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 27670

                      #11
                      Re: Bretts poison pill!

                      Originally posted by Ebenezer
                      I don't believe you can "turn down" waivers. What would be the point of a waiver system?
                      ????

                      Im admitting stupidity I guess.

                      I thought it merely meant that the lower ranked teams got the first shot. They still have to sign contracts and the player still has to agree to do that.

                      Waivers are usually used for players who have little to no reason to turn any offer down.

                      I cant believe that the players have no choice.

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                      • Ebenezer
                        Give me a minute...
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 73867

                        #12
                        Re: Bretts poison pill!

                        Originally posted by EdwardsEra
                        ????

                        Im admitting stupidity I guess.

                        I thought it merely meant that the lower ranked teams got the first shot. They still have to sign contracts and the player still has to agree to do that.

                        Waivers are usually used for players who have little to no reason to turn any offer down.

                        I cant believe that the players have no choice.
                        I am not sure. Yes, lower teams get first choice. If you are "claimed" that would tell me that you play for your current contract with that new team.




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                        • trapezeus
                          Legendary Zoner
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 19525

                          #13
                          Re: Bretts poison pill!

                          i don't know the specifics of waivers, but i believe you get the players rights if you get them off waivers. You'd have to let them go for another team to get a shot at that player. if the player is unhappy with their contract, it'd be a peters situation. It would be worth it as a team with no need for favre to get him to see what the vikings would give you. and if they won't cave, then just release him befor eyou have to pay him his full salary.

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                          • Ebenezer
                            Give me a minute...
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 73867

                            #14
                            Re: Bretts poison pill!

                            Originally posted by Ebenezer
                            I am not sure. Yes, lower teams get first choice. If you are "claimed" that would tell me that you play for your current contract with that new team.
                            and I know Pete Rosell was trying to change some of the rules for vested veterans but I am not sure if they ever went through.




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                            • superbills
                              Registered User
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 1170

                              #15
                              Re: Bretts poison pill!

                              Brett would have to play for any team that claimed him off of waivers. However, he could simply retire again rather than play somewhere he doesn't want to be.

                              It's reminiscent of the the old Dominik Hasek scenario. The Sabres had to trade him to the Red Wings for Kozlov and a bag of pucks or risk him simply retiring and getting nothing for him in return. If they would have tried to get too much from the team he traded him to, he warned that he would retire again, thus voiding the trade. I suppose that the Pack were content to let Brett slip into retirement anyway, but this whole mess also means that the proposed scenario would not work.
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