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  • Coach Sal
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    • Aug 2006
    • 2475

    What I liked and did not like about the STARTERS

    I am pleasantly surprised to see so much more on the "like" side than the "not like" side after this one. There wasn't too much not to like, but here's the lists:

    What I liked:

    --Run defense. Aside from a couple plays the Steelers got a little loose (and that's being picky), the front-7 did a great job of stuffing the field between the tackles and on the edge. I especially liked the way the big guys up front moved down the line to collapse the holes.

    --Pass Rush Pressure. No sacks (see below), but Big Ben was feeling heat and had to get the heck out of the pocket several times.

    --Turk throwing on 1st down! Throwing was nice enough, but completing passes was fabulous. If this offesne can complete 1st down passes (again, Schonert has to be willing to throw the ball) it will absolutely help the running game, as well, and keep defenses off balance.

    --Run blocking/Lynch/Jackson: The run game was terrific. Remember when I wrote after I watched practice that Lynch was great at cutting and still hitting the hole really hard? Well, it looks like Schonert recognizes that, too, because I saw a lot of designed cut-back runs. The line did a good job with that....And Marshawn nailed 'em for big yardage.

    --Pass protection: Aside from a poor play by Langston Walker near his own goalline, the o-line mostly gave Trent a ton of time to throw the ball. His quick release probably made it look even better than it was, but I'll take that kind of protection every Sunday. It makes it a lot easier to call plays and take chances.

    --Trent Edwards: He more than made up for a sub-par performance last week. He threw the ball well to all parts of the field. The outside, middle, intermediate, and short routes. From his own end, between the 20s, and even the red zone. I hope takes more chances this season like he did on the TD pass to Royal. Running for a long first down was an added bonus.

    What I didn't like:

    --No sacks: Pressure is great to get, and the Bills got a lot (see above). But at some point, you have to start putting the quarterback on his butt. They allowed too many escapes. Close doesn't count on sacks and it cost the Bills a couple first downs.

    --Man-to-man defense: Ugh! I saw way too many defenders chasing receivers all over the field as they were catching passes. If the front-7 isn't going to get sacks, the secondary better be able to stay with their men for a little while longer. A lot to ask, but even when Roethlisberger didn't have a lot of time, the DBs didn't hold up their end of the bargain. They were bad.

    --Darian Barnes as the only RB in the backfield: Of course I love splitting Marshawn Lynch out as a WR, especially if there is a matchup with a linebacker. But, doing this and leaving Darian Barnes as the only RB in the backfoeld is counter-productive. All it does is tell the entire stadium, "we're throwing the football." If defensive coordinators and defenders see Barnes as the lone back, they won't be threatened by a pass at all and either blitz, blanket the receivers, or a combination of both. And don't say, "but we can surprise them by handing the ball to Barnes," either. What's the surprise? A 2-yard gain instead of one? Good teams don't have to trick their oppponents to beat them. They beat them by doing what they do very well.
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  • Mitchell55
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    • Feb 2008
    • 5214

    #2
    Re: What I liked and did not like about the STARTERS

    Originally posted by Coach Sal
    I am pleasantly surprised to see so much more on the "like" side than the "not like" side after this one. There wasn't too much not to like, but here's the lists:

    What I liked:

    --Run defense. Aside from a couple plays the Steelers got a little loose (and that's being picky), the front-7 did a great job of stuffing the field between the tackles and on the edge. I especially liked the way the big guys up front moved down the line to collapse the holes.

    --Pass Rush Pressure. No sacks (see below), but Big Ben was feeling heat and had to get the heck out of the pocket several times.

    --Turk throwing on 1st down! Throwing was nice enough, but completing passes was fabulous. If this offesne can complete 1st down passes (again, Schonert has to be willing to throw the ball) it will absolutely help the running game, as well, and keep defenses off balance.

    --Run blocking/Lynch/Jackson: The run game was terrific. Remember when I wrote after I watched practice that Lynch was great at cutting and still hitting the hole really hard? Well, it looks like Schonert recognizes that, too, because I saw a lot of designed cut-back runs. The line did a good job with that....And Marshawn nailed 'em for big yardage.

    --Pass protection: Aside from a poor play by Langston Walker near his own goalline, the o-line mostly gave Trent a ton of time to throw the ball. His quick release probably made it look even better than it was, but I'll take that kind of protection every Sunday. It makes it a lot easier to call plays and take chances.

    --Trent Edwards: He more than made up for a sub-par performance last week. He threw the ball well to all parts of the field. The outside, middle, intermediate, and short routes. From his own end, between the 20s, and even the red zone. I hope takes more chances this season like he did on the TD pass to Royal. Running for a long first down was an added bonus.

    What I didn't like:

    --No sacks: Pressure is great to get, and the Bills got a lot (see above). But at some point, you have to start putting the quarterback on his butt. They allowed too many escapes. Close doesn't count on sacks and it cost the Bills a couple first downs.

    --Man-to-man defense: Ugh! I saw way too many defenders chasing receivers all over the field as they were catching passes. If the front-7 isn't going to get sacks, the secondary better be able to stay with their men for a little while longer. A lot to ask, but even when Roethlisberger didn't have a lot of time, the DBs didn't hold up their end of the bargain. They were bad.

    --Darian Barnes as the only RB in the backfield: Of course I love splitting Marshawn Lynch out as a WR, especially if there is a matchup with a linebacker. But, doing this and leaving Darian Barnes as the only RB in the backfoeld is counter-productive. All it does is tell the entire stadium, "we're throwing the football." If defensive coordinators and defenders see Barnes as the lone back, they won't be threatened by a pass at all and either blitz, blanket the receivers, or a combination of both. And don't say, "but we can surprise them by handing the ball to Barnes," either. What's the surprise? A 2-yard gain instead of one? Good teams don't have to trick their oppponents to beat them. They beat them by doing what they do very well.




    Good. But add Losman to bad.

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    • Dr. Lecter
      Zero for Zero!
      • Mar 2003
      • 67946

      #3
      Re: What I liked and did not like about the STARTERS

      I like that they threw the ball to the RBs as well, including Lynch (and not just dump-offs!).

      A welcome change of pace.
      Originally posted by mysticsoto
      Lecter is right in everything he said.

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      • Dr. Lecter
        Zero for Zero!
        • Mar 2003
        • 67946

        #4
        Re: What I liked and did not like about the STARTERS

        Originally posted by MLynch23
        Good. But add Losman to bad.
        He is not a starter.
        Originally posted by mysticsoto
        Lecter is right in everything he said.

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        • Mitchell55
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          • Feb 2008
          • 5214

          #5
          Re: What I liked and did not like about the STARTERS

          Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
          He is not a starter.



          Didnt read the thread. Its in caps to. Bad miss.

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          • DraftBoy
            Administrator
            • Jul 2002
            • 107443

            #6
            Re: What I liked and did not like about the STARTERS

            Solid observations Sal!
            COMING SOON...
            Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
            We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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            • Coach Sal
              Registered User
              • Aug 2006
              • 2475

              #7
              Re: What I liked and did not like about the STARTERS

              Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
              I like that they threw the ball to the RBs as well, including Lynch (and not just dump-offs!).

              A welcome change of pace.
              Yup. The one to Freddy was a designed flare. He did a great job of staying upright after that hit. I think Trent only actually "dumped down" once or twice in the 11 attempts.
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              • Mitchell55
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                • Feb 2008
                • 5214

                #8
                Re: What I liked and did not like about the STARTERS

                Originally posted by Coach Sal
                Yup. The one to Freddy was a designed flare. He did a great job of staying upright after that hit. I think Trent only actually "dumped down" once or twice in the 11 attempts.



                That was the cunningham play.

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                • bills_7
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                  • Mar 2004
                  • 1010

                  #9
                  Re: What I liked and did not like about the STARTERS

                  Notice how dick barely let JP play

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                  • Philagape
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                    • Jul 2002
                    • 19432

                    #10
                    Re: What I liked and did not like about the STARTERS

                    Originally posted by bills_7
                    Notice how dick barely let JP play
                    Kinda hard to stay on the field when you get sacked on two third downs in a row.

                    Dick must have arranged that!
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                    • yordad
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                      • Dec 2007
                      • 11867

                      #11
                      Re: What I liked and did not like about the STARTERS

                      If they wanna split out a receiving back, they should line up with Lynch and Jackson.
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                      • Mitchell55
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                        • Feb 2008
                        • 5214

                        #12
                        Re: What I liked and did not like about the STARTERS

                        Originally posted by bills_7
                        Notice how dick barely let JP play



                        JP 16 snaps. Edwards got 22 snaps. Not much of a difference and Edwards is a starter, he should get more. Next problem?

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                        • Ebenezer
                          Give me a minute...
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 73867

                          #13
                          Re: What I liked and did not like about the STARTERS

                          Originally posted by bills_7
                          Notice how dick barely let JP play
                          Thank God.




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                          • Crisis
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                            • Aug 2004
                            • 12738

                            #14
                            Re: What I liked and did not like about the STARTERS

                            im watching the replay because i missed the game but lynch did a great job picking up the blitz on the first royal td
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                            • Scumbag College
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                              • Oct 2002
                              • 4949

                              #15
                              Re: What I liked and did not like about the STARTERS

                              Great post Sal. I'd add to the likes:

                              Lee Evans- He looked great tonight, getting a couple of first downs and really looking like he's ready to go this year after missing the game last week.

                              DiGiorgio- Crowell probably will see little, if any action this preseason. But he was all around the ball on almost every play. It's great to have a guy that can backup at OLB and MLB and there isn't that much of a drop off.

                              Simpson- Made the deflection on Whitner's INT, but he made a couple of great hits. I think he's close to being back to 100%.
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