I hate the NFL Network!

[Michael82]

I just saw an article in the paper today that said that even though Buffalo will be able to broadcast the Bills/Colts game on local TV on Sunday night, Rochester will not. Apparently the NFL considers Rochester, Toronto, Syracuse and all the surrounding areas a secondary market. So they won't be allowed to broadcast the game. Yet Buffalo and the surrounding suburbs will be allowed to broadcast the game on ABC. They are the primary market. Bob Matthews does have a point too.... Why the hell is Rochester considered a primary market when it comes to the blackout rule, yet for this, they are only a secondary market? **** YOU NFL! You greedy ****s!

Oh and **** TIME WARNER! :mad: :curse:

[RockStar36]

I figured as much when I was having this conversation with hydro yesterday and found that my local CBS wasn't airing the game this week. I'm part of the Bills network but not in Buffalo. Now the real question, do I go somewhere to watch it or just listen?

[hydro]

:lolpoint: Non-buffalonians

[HHURRICANE]

I get the NFL Network here in ATL. I think it is the most amateurish channel on TV.

When they have Thrusday games I want to vommit. The coverage sucks, and it's like they have equipment fom the 70s. Just horrible.

[Pride]

Whats this have to do with NFLN?

[mybills]

I get the NFL Network here in ATL. I think it is the most amateurish channel on TV.

When they have Thrusday games I want to vommit. The coverage sucks, and it's like they have equipment fom the 70s. Just horrible.
They put 3rd & 1 when it's really 4th & 1..they put 6-0 when the score is only 3-0. They screw up too many names, too. But I'm glad I have it so I can watch this Sunday. :D

[gr8slayer]

So quit being a :limp: and get DirecTV.

[mybills]

He lives with mom & dad. Maybe they don't want it.

[gr8slayer]

He lives with mom & dad. Maybe they don't want it.
Then man up and get out of mommy and daddies house and it won't be a problem anymore.

[RockStar36]

So quit being a :limp: and get DirecTV.

I want my local stations.

[gr8slayer]

I want my local stations.
I have no problem getting my local stations with DirecTV; all in HD too.

[LtFinFan66]

I just saw an article in the paper today that said that even though Buffalo will be able to broadcast the Bills/Colts game on local TV on Sunday night, Rochester will not. Apparently the NFL considers Rochester, Toronto, Syracuse and all the surrounding areas a secondary market. So they won't be allowed to broadcast the game. Yet Buffalo and the surrounding suburbs will be allowed to broadcast the game on ABC. They are the primary market. Bob Matthews does have a point too.... Why the hell is Rochester considered a primary market when it comes to the blackout rule, yet for this, they are only a secondary market? **** YOU NFL! You greedy ****s!

Oh and **** TIME WARNER! :mad: :curse:Cry me a river. I get to watch:snicker:

[LtFinFan66]

I want my local stations.I have locals

[Michael82]

I get the NFL Network here in ATL. I think it is the most amateurish channel on TV.

When they have Thrusday games I want to vommit. The coverage sucks, and it's like they have equipment fom the 70s. Just horrible.
Agreed. I have watched the Thursday games at the bars last season and laughed. It is pretty lame. Plus I have watched the channel at a hotel and I was bored. It's so much repeating and a bunch of crap. I side with Time Warner. The NFL is charging way too much for a crappy product. If they lowered the price for it, I bet TW would add it to their package.

[Michael82]

I figured as much when I was having this conversation with hydro yesterday and found that my local CBS wasn't airing the game this week. I'm part of the Bills network but not in Buffalo. Now the real question, do I go somewhere to watch it or just listen?
Does anyone have that link for free TV? I will watch it on my computer if I have to. Or maybe Log can put it on Log TV. :D

[RockStar36]

Well in this area you don't get locals with DirectTV. The only purpose DirectTV serves around here is for Sunday Ticket. Now I get all my Bills games anyways so why would I pay for Sunday Ticket? Also, in February the ability to get locals through an antenna will no longer be possible so that rules out DirectTV even more. I would get Dish but I have no line of sight.

[Michael82]

So quit being a :limp: and get DirecTV.
We used to have DirecTV before it was cool to have DirecTV and it got too damn expensive, plus not having the local channels sucked. So we went back to Time Warner and got a good deal with the Road Runner included. :up:

[RockStar36]

Does anyone have that link for free TV? I will watch it on my computer if I have to. Or maybe Log can put it on Log TV. :D

No I don't. I would go over to my parents or to a bar before I'd watch through an internet stream.

[LtFinFan66]

If you ask for them, you get them:idunno:

[Michael82]

Well in this area you don't get locals with DirectTV. The only purpose DirectTV serves around here is for Sunday Ticket. Now I get all my Bills games anyways so why would I pay for Sunday Ticket? Also, in February the ability to get locals through an antenna will no longer be possible so that rules out DirectTV even more. I would get Dish but I have no line of sight.
Excellent post! It's the same way here. You can't get locals with DirecTV either.

[RockStar36]

If you ask for them, you get them:idunno:

Not....in....Erie.....

[hydro]

You can try here:
http://www.channelsurfing.net/

or here

www.myp2p.eu

[LtFinFan66]

Agreed. I have watched the Thursday games at the bars last season and laughed. It is pretty lame. Plus I have watched the channel at a hotel and I was bored. It's so much repeating and a bunch of crap. I side with Time Warner. The NFL is charging way too much for a crappy product. If they lowered the price for it, I bet TW would add it to their package.What is the NFL charging for? It comes in my basic package

[LtFinFan66]

Not....in....Erie.....Move

[Michael82]

What is the NFL charging for? It comes in my basic package
They were charging the Cable companies a crazy amount of money to buy the channel. Most cable companies laughed at them and told them to **** off. Time Warner was one of them.

[RockStar36]

Move

If I could, I would.

BTW, it is like 50/50 on the NFL and TW. Don't get the idea that TW is the innocent one on this deal. When I had Adelphia for cable they always showed me the Sabres games and NFL Network, then once TW officially took over I lost all that stuff. TW is equally at fault for this. Don't be surprised if the exclusive NFLN games get shown on another station, like the NE/NYG game did last year. I know that was a special game but still, the NFL is realizing that they are hurting the product but only showing on NFLN.

[LtFinFan66]

They were charging the Cable companies a crazy amount of money to buy the channel. Most cable companies laughed at them and told them to **** off. Time Warner was one of them.Maybe Time Warner is cheap.....seems they are not carrying the Big Ten Network for the same reason


You are quick to blame without all the facts

[RockStar36]

Time Warner does suck a fat ass. Believe me, if DirectTV had locals I would get it in a heartbeat. I was all set to get Dish when I move but I found out I literally cannot unless I chop down a neighbor's tree so I'm stuck with ****ty TW. On the good side, they offer half my locals in HD so I'll still get a good chunk of football games in HD, just not the Bills for the most part.

[Michael82]

Maybe Time Warner is cheap.....seems they are not carrying the Big Ten Network for the same reason


You are quick to blame without all the facts
You are also quick to blame without the facts. Have you seen what they wanted Time Warner to pay for it? Yet they wanted them to also offer it for free instead of on a sports tier package.... :ill:

[gr8slayer]

Time Warner does suck a fat ass. Believe me, if DirectTV had locals I would get it in a heartbeat. I was all set to get Dish when I move but I found out I literally cannot unless I chop down a neighbor's tree so I'm stuck with ****ty TW. On the good side, they offer half my locals in HD so I'll still get a good chunk of football games in HD, just not the Bills for the most part.
Unless I'm mistaken every game this year should be in HD.

[RockStar36]

Unless I'm mistaken every game this year should be in HD.

My local CBS is behind the times and doesn't offer HD. Yes, all games are going to be in HD but it's where available. Right now in Erie, TW offers FOX and NBC in HD so if the game is on CBS I'm screwed.

[LtFinFan66]

You are also quick to blame without the facts. Have you seen what they wanted Time Warner to pay for it? Yet they wanted them to also offer it for free instead of on a sports tier package.... :ill:Well Time Warner is too cheap to get the BTN as well so I am siding against TW on this one

[LtFinFan66]

My local CBS is behind the times and doesn't offer HD. Yes, all games are going to be in HD but it's where available. Right now in Erie, TW offers FOX and NBC in HD so if the game is on CBS I'm screwed.Same with my locals

[gr8slayer]

Dish Network and Verizon both carry NFLN, perhaps TW is the cheap ass in all of this.

[gr8slayer]

My local CBS is behind the times and doesn't offer HD. Yes, all games are going to be in HD but it's where available. Right now in Erie, TW offers FOX and NBC in HD so if the game is on CBS I'm screwed.
That sucks. Oh well, if you can't get a game for some reason PM me, you can use the Slingbox.

[LtFinFan66]

Just as DTV, DISH, Comcast all carry the Big Ten Network

[Michael82]

Anyone going to have the game on their slingbox this Sunday? I can pay ZBs if you let me watch. :naughty:

[gr8slayer]

Just as DTV, DISH, Comcast all carry the Big Ten Network
Yup, BTN is great in the off-season.

[RockStar36]

That sucks. Oh well, if you can't get a game for some reason PM me, you can use the Slingbox.

I'll still get the games, just not in HD...which based off the last two games I've watched since getting my new tv, it sucks ass watching it without HD. I've been watching a ton of the Olympics simply because it's in HD. I think I'm becoming an HD snob now.

[LtFinFan66]

I am too

[BlackMetalNinja]

I'll be watching in HD... And Mikey, your excuse of DirecTV being too expsensive is hilarious. Time Warner is certainly more expensive, bundle or not... I just switched, I would know.

[RockStar36]

If he doesn't get locals then I understand his stance on DirectTV but if locals are available to him I don't see any reason not to switch.

[Michael82]

If he doesn't get locals then I understand his stance on DirectTV but if locals are available to him I don't see any reason not to switch.
nope, no locals. And we also have 6 TVs in the house, and we just have regular connected to them. The digital cable box is downstairs.

[RockStar36]

Well then I would think you'll have to make do without this one Bills pre-season game or make arrangements to go see it. It's not like it's a regular season game, and it's not like it is every week so I wouldn't worry about it.

[Michael82]

Well then I would think you'll have to make do without this one Bills pre-season game or make arrangements to go see it. It's not like it's a regular season game, and it's not like it is every week so I wouldn't worry about it.
true, but it still pisses me off. Why are we connected part of the home market for a black out? Yet for this, we aren't... WTF! :mad:

[gr8slayer]

true, but it still pisses me off. Why are we connected part of the home market for a black out? Yet for this, we aren't... WTF! :mad:
So move out of the house and get your own place in Buffalo.

[RockStar36]

true, but it still pisses me off. Why are we connected part of the home market for a black out? Yet for this, we aren't... WTF! :mad:

:idunno:

The NFL likes to screw people over?

[LtFinFan66]

Mikey thinks so

[RockStar36]

Well, they kinda do. Think about the point he is making, it is a valid point. How come for me living in Erie, if they don't sell out a game I get blacked out? I'm part of the Buffalo market. How come during the pre-season my local CBS is obligated to show the game? I'm part of the Buffalo market. But when NFLN has exclusive rights to the game, I'm not part of the Buffalo market. Funny how that works.

[gr8slayer]

:idunno:

The NFL likes to screw people over?
The NFL has never screwed me over, they offer a service and you can either pay for the NFL's service or you or you don't.

[billsburgh]

true, but it still pisses me off. Why are we connected part of the home market for a black out? Yet for this, we aren't... WTF! :mad:
that's an excellent point Mikey

[Michael82]

:idunno:

The NFL likes to screw people over?
Yeah they do. :mad:

[Michael82]

Well, they kinda do. Think about the point he is making, it is a valid point. How come for me living in Erie, if they don't sell out a game I get blacked out? I'm part of the Buffalo market. How come during the pre-season my local CBS is obligated to show the game? I'm part of the Buffalo market. But when NFLN has exclusive rights to the game, I'm not part of the Buffalo market. Funny how that works.
EXACTLY! :bf1:

That's my point for this thread. It's a bunch of bull****. :mad:

[gr8slayer]

So watch it on the Slingbox and be happy......... or drive to Buffalo and watch it at a sports bar.

[LtFinFan66]

EXACTLY! :bf1:

That's my point for this thread. It's a bunch of bull****. :mad:you are a big whiney baby

[LtFinFan66]

Yeah they do. :mad:no they don't

[Michael82]

So watch it on the Slingbox and be happy......... or drive to Buffalo and watch it at a sports bar.
How do I watch it on the Sling Box? Anyone have one that I can borrow? :D

[gr8slayer]

How do I watch it on the Sling Box? Anyone have one that I can borrow? :D
If it will curb your *****ing you can use mine..... Don't you attend every home game anyway? Why not just go to OP and watch it at a bar?

[Michael82]

you are a big whiney baby
Bite me, fin fan!

[LtFinFan66]

Bite me, fin fan!truth hurts eh:snicker:

[The Spaz]

Umm you do do get local channels with Directtv!

[gr8slayer]

Umm you do do get local channels with Directtv!
And if you don't you can buy the antenna for twenty bucks from Best Buy.

[Wally The Barber]

Move to Florida, I see them all (lol)

[OpIv37]

Well in this area you don't get locals with DirectTV. The only purpose DirectTV serves around here is for Sunday Ticket. Now I get all my Bills games anyways so why would I pay for Sunday Ticket? Also, in February the ability to get locals through an antenna will no longer be possible so that rules out DirectTV even more. I would get Dish but I have no line of sight.

for the record, DirecTV makes an HD antenna that's ATTACHED to the satellite and you can get your locals with the over-the-air antenna, completely integrated into your guide and DVR (if you have one).

So, it's a total myth that you can't have locals for HD.

And why can't you get locals over the air in February? If you're talking about digital conversion, you have your facts wrong. The DirecTV receiver can receive the digital signal so you can still get over the air channels and you won't need any converter box (in fact, any HDTV with an HD antenna is already receiving the digital signal over the air).

[gr8slayer]

nope, because the antenna won't work as of February. :::
YES IT WILL if it's from DirecTV; it can be purchased at Best Buy.

[billsburgh]

hey Mikey, Mike Catalana from channel 13 is on your side
http://www.13wham.com/content/sports/openmike/story.aspx?content_id=e453964d-652d-4523-8225-5290b69c01a1

[Bone]

Well I'm watching on sunday, go to a bar or something no need to complain.

[Dr. Lecter]

Excellent post! It's the same way here. You can't get locals with DirecTV either.

Get DishNetwork.

[Dr. Lecter]

Yes! Local channels are available in your area: Rochester NY 14623 We have provided a complete list of local stations and channel numbers below.
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Available Channels

<TABLE class="resultTable resultTableNarrow"><THEAD><TR class=headings><!-- @integration: table headings. do not loop this row --><TH class=network>Network</TH><TH class=affiliate>Affiliate</TH><TH class=localNum>Local Channel #</TH><TH class=threeDigNum>3-Digit Channel #
(older receivers)</TH></TR></THEAD><TBODY><!--output oparam of foreach--><!- empty oparam of foreach droplet--><!--output of foreach--><TR><TD>CBS</TD><TD>WROC</TD><TD>8</TD><TD></TD></TR><!--output oparam of foreach--><!- empty oparam of foreach droplet--><!--output of foreach--><TR><TD>NBC</TD><TD>WHEC</TD><TD>10</TD><TD></TD></TR><!--output oparam of foreach--><!- empty oparam of foreach droplet--><!--output of foreach--><TR><TD>ABC</TD><TD>WHAM</TD><TD>13</TD><TD></TD></TR><!--output oparam of foreach--><!- empty oparam of foreach droplet--><!--output of foreach--><TR><TD>CW</TD><TD>CW</TD><TD>14</TD><TD></TD></TR><!--output oparam of foreach--><!- empty oparam of foreach droplet--><!--output of foreach--><TR><TD>PBS</TD><TD>WXXI</TD><TD>21</TD><TD></TD></TR><!--output oparam of foreach--><!- empty oparam of foreach droplet--><!--output of foreach--><TR><TD>FOX</TD><TD>WUHF</TD><TD>31</TD><TD></TD></TR><!--output oparam of foreach--><!- empty oparam of foreach droplet--><!--output of foreach--><TR><TD>TFT</TD><TD>TFT</TD><TD>431</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


HD locals are not available in Rochester, but non-HD is available.

[Dr. Lecter]

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" align=left border=0><TBODY><TR><TD id=LARGE_BOLD_TEXT align=left bgColor=#ffffff colSpan=2>LOCAL NETWORK PACKAGE </TD></TR><TR><TD height=10></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2>Congratulations! This address is eligible for the:</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3>Rochester, NY Local Network Package</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3> </TD></TR><!-- Is not eligible for HD OTA --><TR><TD colSpan=3>Please note: Only channels denoted by "HD" are in high definition. Those without this notation are only available in standard definition.

If you do not see HD local channels currently available in your area, you may still be able to receive them via a high definition off-air antenna.</TD></TR><!-- Eligible for HD OTA (Direct and Retailer --><!-- Eligible for HD OTA (Retailer only --><TR><TD><TABLE width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><TABLE style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=left> </TD></TR><TR><TD id=LARGE_BOLD_TEXT align=left>Local channels currently available in this package:</TD></TR><TR><TD align=left><TABLE width=450 border=1><TBODY><TR class=TR><TD vAlign=bottom align=left colSpan=3>Rochester, NY Locals Package - $5.99 per month</TD></TR><TR class=headerbar vAlign=bottom><TD align=left>Station </TD><TD align=middle width=120>Local Channel Number </TD><TD align=middle width=120>Dish Channel Number </TD></TR><TR><TD class=data>ROCHESTER ABC-WHAM (http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/whats_on_dish/programming_packages/channels/index.asp?NetwID=51655)</TD><TD class=data align=middle>13</TD><TD class=data align=middle>7634</TD></TR><TR><TD class=data>ROCHESTER CBS-WROC (http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/whats_on_dish/programming_packages/channels/index.asp?NetwID=51236)</TD><TD class=data align=middle>8</TD><TD class=data align=middle>7635</TD></TR><TR><TD class=data>ROCHESTER FOX-WUHF (http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/whats_on_dish/programming_packages/channels/index.asp?NetwID=51239)</TD><TD class=data align=middle>31</TD><TD class=data align=middle>7637</TD></TR><TR><TD class=data>ROCHESTER NBC-WHEC (http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/whats_on_dish/programming_packages/channels/index.asp?NetwID=51238)</TD><TD class=data align=middle>10</TD><TD class=data align=middle>7636</TD></TR><TR><TD class=data>ROCHESTER PBS-WXXI (http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/whats_on_dish/programming_packages/channels/index.asp?NetwID=51240)</TD><TD class=data align=middle>21</TD><TD class=data align=middle>7640</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD><TABLE style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="90%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>https://customersupport.dishnetwork.com/rconnecthtml/images/clear.gif</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD align=left> </TD></TR><TR><TD id=CONTENT align=left>**CW Programming on Dish Channel Number 251 where available

Dishnetwork also has locals in Rochester, albeit not HD

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" align=left border=0><TBODY><TR><TD id=LARGE_BOLD_TEXT align=left bgColor=#ffffff colSpan=2>LOCAL NETWORK PACKAGE </TD></TR><TR><TD height=10></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2>Congratulations! This address is eligible for the:</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3>Erie, PA (129 Dish) Local Network Package</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3> </TD></TR><!-- Is not eligible for HD OTA --><TR><TD colSpan=3>Please note: Only channels denoted by "HD" are in high definition. Those without this notation are only available in standard definition.

If you do not see HD local channels currently available in your area, you may still be able to receive them via a high definition off-air antenna.</TD></TR><!-- Eligible for HD OTA (Direct and Retailer --><!-- Eligible for HD OTA (Retailer only --><TR><TD><TABLE width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><TABLE style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=left> </TD></TR><TR><TD id=LARGE_BOLD_TEXT align=left>Local channels currently available in this package:</TD></TR><TR><TD align=left><TABLE width=450 border=1><TBODY><TR class=TR><TD vAlign=bottom align=left colSpan=3>Erie, PA (129 Dish) Locals Package - $5.99 per month</TD></TR><TR class=headerbar vAlign=bottom><TD align=left>Station </TD><TD align=middle width=120>Local Channel Number </TD><TD align=middle width=120>Dish Channel Number </TD></TR><TR><TD class=data>ERIE ABC-WJET (http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/whats_on_dish/programming_packages/channels/index.asp?NetwID=51707)</TD><TD class=data align=middle>24</TD><TD class=data align=middle>7041</TD></TR><TR><TD class=data>ERIE CBS-WSEE (http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/whats_on_dish/programming_packages/channels/index.asp?NetwID=51708)</TD><TD class=data align=middle>5</TD><TD class=data align=middle>7042</TD></TR><TR><TD class=data>ERIE FOX-WFXP (http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/whats_on_dish/programming_packages/channels/index.asp?NetwID=51710)</TD><TD class=data align=middle>66</TD><TD class=data align=middle>7044</TD></TR><TR><TD class=data>ERIE NBC-WICU (http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/whats_on_dish/programming_packages/channels/index.asp?NetwID=51709)</TD><TD class=data align=middle>12</TD><TD class=data align=middle>7043</TD></TR><TR><TD class=data>ERIE PBS-WQLN (http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/whats_on_dish/programming_packages/channels/index.asp?NetwID=51711)</TD><TD class=data align=middle>54</TD><TD class=data align=middle>7047</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD><TABLE style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="90%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>https://customersupport.dishnetwork.com/rconnecthtml/images/clear.gif</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD align=left> </TD></TR><TR><TD id=CONTENT align=left>**CW Programming on Dish Channel Number 251 where available


Dishnetwork also has locals in Erie
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[SquishDaFish]

New sat is launched for Direct TV your area should have locals by the 1st of the year.

[SquishDaFish]

I bet you just got those locals too Rockstar because of that new sat. Now go get yourself Direct TV!!

[RockStar36]

for the record, DirecTV makes an HD antenna that's ATTACHED to the satellite and you can get your locals with the over-the-air antenna, completely integrated into your guide and DVR (if you have one).

So, it's a total myth that you can't have locals for HD.

And why can't you get locals over the air in February? If you're talking about digital conversion, you have your facts wrong. The DirecTV receiver can receive the digital signal so you can still get over the air channels and you won't need any converter box (in fact, any HDTV with an HD antenna is already receiving the digital signal over the air).

That is news to me. If that is a fact, and I wouldn't lose them in February, then I would highly consider getting DirectTV when I move. Do you have any links as to where I can find out about that stuff?

[RockStar36]

I know Doc, but like I said, I have no line of sight for Dish at the new place.

[OpIv37]

That is news to me. If that is a fact, and I wouldn't lose them in February, then I would highly consider getting DirectTV when I move. Do you have any links as to where I can find out about that stuff?

not off hand but I will try to find you some later.

[RockStar36]

I'm looking at the site now. I like the one package and it has a bunch of HD stations but I need to find about locals since football games are all on local.

[RockStar36]

Oh my...

MSG HD would be part of my normal package because I'm in the Buffalo area. This might have just swayed my decision bigtime...the price of Center Ice through TW would be way more than the price of DirectTV.

[RockStar36]

Just what I thought. Everything on the DTV site says I can get a rooftop antenna, or set top, both of which suck and I wouldn't want that.

[OpIv37]

Just what I thought. Everything on the DTV site says I can get a rooftop antenna, or set top, both of which suck and I wouldn't want that.

but rooftop antennas are cheap and you can set it up with your satellite. The new HD antennas are small- they're not those radio tower monstrosities from the 60's.

[SquishDaFish]

I wouldnt worry to much about locals right now. They are just starting to roll out channels from the new sat they launched. People that dont get locals period should start to get them by 1st of year and people that do get locals should have them in HD soon.

[RockStar36]

Well I won't be able to mount an antenna to the roof since my landlord won't go for that. If they were to roll out locals, that would be the day I would order the service. However, in the meantime, I need locals in order to view the Bills every single week.

[Michael82]

Well I won't be able to mount an antenna to the roof since my landlord won't go for that. If they were to roll out locals, that would be the day I would order the service. However, in the meantime, I need locals in order to view the Bills every single week.
plus you'd rather get the HD locals that Time Warner offers. That's why would sway me to stay....

[LtFinFan66]

Well I won't be able to mount an antenna to the roof since my landlord won't go for that. If they were to roll out locals, that would be the day I would order the service. However, in the meantime, I need locals in order to view the Bills every single week.Why would you need locals to view the Bills if you got Sunday NFL Ticket?

[OpIv37]

Why would you need locals to view the Bills if you got Sunday NFL Ticket?

because if the local channel picks up a game, Sunday Ticket blacks it out in the local area to force you to watch it on the local channel. It's NFL policy to make everyone watch the local channel.

[LtFinFan66]

because if the local channel picks up a game, Sunday Ticket blacks it out in the local area to force you to watch it on the local channel. It's NFL policy to make everyone watch the local channel.not if locals are unavailable in your area:idunno:

[mikemac2001]

who really cares....i will go to a bar before i spend 20 mins crying about direct tv or cable or local

i will just go to the bar....watch it get some half price appetizers and enjoy the ****ing game


sorry if its to hard to put your pants on

[gr8slayer]

who really cares....i will go to a bar before i spend 20 mins crying about direct tv or cable or local

i will just go to the bar....watch it get some half price appetizers and enjoy the ****ing game


sorry if its to hard to put your pants on
Word to your home work.

[superbills]

not if locals are unavailable in your area

But the NFL doesn't care that locals aren't available on your system. If there's a local channel available via cable or other means, they are contractually obliged to blackout the Sunday Ticket game. There are no waivers simply because DirecTV doesn't offer the local station...

[tat2dmike77]

There is to much crying in this thread over stupid ass crap

[LtFinFan66]

But the NFL doesn't care that locals aren't available on your system. If there's a local channel available via cable or other means, they are contractually obliged to blackout the Sunday Ticket game. There are no waivers simply because DirecTV doesn't offer the local station...Understood, but if you cannot receive locals via DirecTV, then the game would be shown on the local channel near the teams local area up on one on the 700+ channels

[LtFinFan66]

There is to much crying in this thread over stupid ass craponly Mikey is crying

[gr8slayer]

only Mikey is crying
And I've offered him a solution on more than one occasion. SLINGBOX; I've offered my services.

[BillsSabresB.C.T. Fan]

I have a friend that runs and installs cable lines for TWC and he says that it's not the money it's that TWC wants to put NFLN in it's InDemand sports package with MLB Extra Innings and Center Ice and NFLN won't let them do it.

[lmcshadow]

I just saw an article in the paper today that said that even though Buffalo will be able to broadcast the Bills/Colts game on local TV on Sunday night, Rochester will not. Apparently the NFL considers Rochester, Toronto, Syracuse and all the surrounding areas a secondary market. So they won't be allowed to broadcast the game. Yet Buffalo and the surrounding suburbs will be allowed to broadcast the game on ABC. They are the primary market. Bob Matthews does have a point too.... Why the hell is Rochester considered a primary market when it comes to the blackout rule, yet for this, they are only a secondary market? **** YOU NFL! You greedy ****s!

Oh and **** TIME WARNER! :mad: :curse:
Im with you Micky :rockon:

[gr8slayer]

Im with you Micky :rockon:
Yeah Michael, I'm with you too.

[SquishDaFish]

I have a friend that runs and installs cable lines for TWC and he says that it's not the money it's that TWC wants to put NFLN in it's InDemand sports package with MLB Extra Innings and Center Ice and NFLN won't let them do it.

You are right. NFL wants the NFLChannel to be included free and want the customers not to have to pay to get the channel. Thats what is holding it up from being included.

[SquishDaFish]

Rockstar go to www.directtv.com search locals and input your zipcode. I know Rochester has locals now and am hearing via www.dbstalk.com that Rochesters locals just went HD this morning.

[LtFinFan66]

You are right. NFL wants the NFLChannel to be included free and want the customers not to have to pay to get the channel. Thats what is holding it up from being included.yet according to Mikey, the NFL are the greedy ones:rolleyes:

[SquishDaFish]

Well LT Mikey is wrong then. Because as described above that is the problem with the channel not making it to all homes in the US.

[RockStar36]

Why would you need locals to view the Bills if you got Sunday NFL Ticket?

Why would I order Sunday Ticket if I can get all the Bills games for free on local stations?

[RockStar36]

Rockstar go to www.directtv.com (http://www.directtv.com) search locals and input your zipcode. I know Rochester has locals now and am hearing via www.dbstalk.com (http://www.dbstalk.com) that Rochesters locals just went HD this morning.

Already did, no locals.

I think I'm sticking with TW for now. Like I said, the day DTV gets locals I will make the switch. I actually planned for the last year now to switch to Dish when I moved and then I found out this place can't get Dish, I'm quite upset about it.

[SquishDaFish]

Well dont worry with the new sat up Im sure your locals will be out soon.

[RockStar36]

Not to debate over it, but for the record, DTV has been saying Erie will be getting locals for a few years now. Until I actually see it happen, I won't believe it.

[SquishDaFish]

Yea well the launching of the new sat recently will accomplish that fact

[RockStar36]

We'll see I guess