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dasaybz
09-16-2008, 11:13 PM
... and Ellison has 4 total tackles.

4 of the Bills top 5 leading tacklers are DBs.

Does this mean anything???

dasaybz
09-16-2008, 11:14 PM
<table class="w655px datatablecell" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr class="bold datatabledatahead"><td title="Player Name">Player </td> <td title="Total Tackles"> Tot </td> <td title="Solo Tackles"> Solo </td> <td title="Tackle Assists"> Assist </td> <td title="Number of Sacks"> Sck </td> <td title="Fumbles Forced"> Fumb </td> </tr> <tr class="whiteback"> <td class="paddedLeftAlign"> Terrence McGee (http://www.nfl.com/players/terrencemcgee/profile?id=MCG215622) </td> <td>13</td> <td>11</td> <td>2</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td> </tr> <tr class="ltblueback"> <td class="paddedLeftAlign"> Donte Whitner (http://www.nfl.com/players/dontewhitner/profile?id=WHI720119) </td> <td>12</td> <td>11</td> <td>1</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td> </tr> <tr class="whiteback"> <td class="paddedLeftAlign"> Ashton Youboty (http://www.nfl.com/players/ashtonyouboty/profile?id=YOU007285) </td> <td>11</td> <td>10</td> <td>1</td> <td>1</td> <td>0</td> </tr> <tr class="ltblueback"> <td class="paddedLeftAlign"> Paul Posluszny (http://www.nfl.com/players/paulposluszny/profile?id=POS250036) </td> <td>12</td> <td>8</td> <td>4</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td> </tr> <tr class="whiteback"> <td class="paddedLeftAlign"> Ko Simpson (http://www.nfl.com/players/kosimpson/profile?id=SIM560277) </td> <td>9</td> <td>7</td> <td>2</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td></tr></tbody></table>
<table class="w655px datatablecell" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr class="bold datatabledatahead"><td title="Player Name">Player </td> <td title="Total Tackles"> Tot </td> <td title="Solo Tackles"> Solo </td> <td title="Tackle Assists"> Assist </td> <td title="Number of Sacks"> Sck </td> <td title="Fumbles Forced"> Fumb </td> </tr> <tr class="whiteback"> <td class="paddedLeftAlign"> Terrence McGee (http://www.nfl.com/players/terrencemcgee/profile?id=MCG215622) </td> <td>13</td> <td>11</td> <td>2</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td> </tr> <tr class="ltblueback"> <td class="paddedLeftAlign"> Donte Whitner (http://www.nfl.com/players/dontewhitner/profile?id=WHI720119) </td> <td>12</td> <td>11</td> <td>1</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td> </tr> <tr class="whiteback"> <td class="paddedLeftAlign"> Ashton Youboty (http://www.nfl.com/players/ashtonyouboty/profile?id=YOU007285) </td> <td>11</td> <td>10</td> <td>1</td> <td>1</td> <td>0</td> </tr> <tr class="ltblueback"> <td class="paddedLeftAlign"> Paul Posluszny (http://www.nfl.com/players/paulposluszny/profile?id=POS250036) </td> <td>12</td> <td>8</td> <td>4</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td></tr></tbody></table>

Lexwhat
09-16-2008, 11:16 PM
What does this mean? (I'm really asking).

dasaybz
09-16-2008, 11:23 PM
I don't know.

Lexwhat
09-16-2008, 11:24 PM
lol

dasaybz
09-16-2008, 11:24 PM
Hell, our 3rd leading tackler is our nickel back.

dasaybz
09-16-2008, 11:25 PM
I just think it's kinda strange.

jamze132
09-16-2008, 11:56 PM
It means that Ellison sucks and McGee is getting tackles he shouldn't be getting. But to McGee's credit, he has been picked on by both QBs so far.

If Crowell was in the lineup, I bet he would have more than 4 tackles and McGee would have less than 13.

Dujek
09-17-2008, 04:10 AM
The other thing it can mean is that the CBs are playing too soft and are having to make tackles instead of breaking up pass plays.

Romes
09-17-2008, 05:01 AM
good question.

the optimist in me says that our DTs are busting up the inside runs and forcing run plays outside where the CBs are coming up and making plays...

don't know if thats true or not :idunno:

Night Train
09-17-2008, 05:16 AM
...
Does this mean anything???

Yes

We're 2-0

YardRat
09-17-2008, 05:37 AM
Conventional wisdom traditionally maintains that d-backs shouldn't be your leading tacklers, but if the front seven is consistently stuffing the run and putting opponents into passing situations then it's a good thing.

patmoran2006
09-17-2008, 06:16 AM
We're 5th in the NFL in defense right now, so take it for what it is..

X-Era
09-17-2008, 06:20 AM
... and Ellison has 4 total tackles.

4 of the Bills top 5 leading tacklers are DBs.

Does this mean anything???

It means LB is our #1 need going into next offseason.

Out of free agency,

Terrell Suggs- will cost a fortune, I think hes worth it, but the Bills probably wont
Karlos Dansby- an up and comer, young, and probably wont break the bank, a likely guy fort he Bills to target

Out of the draft,

1) Aaron Curry- Wake Forrest- the all around best OLB I have watched so far IMO
2) Brian Cushing- USC- I think hes overrated as does DB. But, the drop off after Curry is significant.
3) Clint Sintim- Virginia- has done much this year, but has been very successfull in the past
4) Tyrone McKenzie- USF- may end up being #2 due to production. Hes got a lanky build but can play

No juniors in that, and theres a chance of moving a top ILB prospect out to SLB, or moving Poz out. The ILB class is stronger.

dasaybz
09-17-2008, 07:27 AM
It means LB is our #1 need going into next offseason.

Out of free agency,

Terrell Suggs- will cost a fortune, I think hes worth it, but the Bills probably wont
Karlos Dansby- an up and comer, young, and probably wont break the bank, a likely guy fort he Bills to target

Out of the draft,

1) Aaron Curry- Wake Forrest- the all around best OLB I have watched so far IMO
2) Brian Cushing- USC- I think hes overrated as does DB. But, the drop off after Curry is significant.
3) Clint Sintim- Virginia- has done much this year, but has been very successfull in the past
4) Tyrone McKenzie- USF- may end up being #2 due to production. Hes got a lanky build but can play

No juniors in that, and theres a chance of moving a top ILB prospect out to SLB, or moving Poz out. The ILB class is stronger.

Sorry bro, but you lost me when you mentioned the word "offseason".

realdealryan
09-17-2008, 07:33 AM
Well, we have been linebacker blitzing like a MF...

Meathead
09-17-2008, 07:38 AM
<TABLE style="BORDER-RIGHT: #255691 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: #255691 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #255691 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #255691 1px solid" cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=nflsortcolumn id=defense style="FONT: bold 11px verdana" colSpan=12>Defense</TD></TR><TR><TD class=darkrow4 style="FONT: bold 11px verdana" colSpan=2></TD><TD class=darkrow4 style="FONT: bold 11px verdana" align=middle colSpan=4>TACKLES</TD><TD class=darkrow4 style="FONT: bold 11px verdana" align=middle colSpan=4>INTERCEPTIONS</TD><TD class=darkrow4 style="FONT: bold 11px verdana" align=middle colSpan=2>FUMBLE REC</TD></TR><TR><TD class=darkrow1 style="FONT: bold 11px verdana" align=left>Player</TD><TD class=darkrow1 style="FONT: bold 11px verdana" align=right>G</TD><TD class=darkrow1 style="FONT: bold 11px verdana" align=right>Total</TD><TD class=darkrow1 style="FONT: bold 11px verdana" align=right>Solo</TD><TD class=darkrow1 style="FONT: bold 11px verdana" align=right>Assts</TD><TD class=darkrow1 style="FONT: bold 11px verdana" align=right>Sacks</TD><TD class=darkrow1 style="FONT: bold 11px verdana" align=right>No</TD><TD class=darkrow1 style="FONT: bold 11px verdana" align=right>Yds</TD><TD class=darkrow1 style="FONT: bold 11px verdana" align=right>Avg</TD><TD class=darkrow1 style="FONT: bold 11px verdana" align=right>TD</TD><TD class=darkrow1 style="FONT: bold 11px verdana" align=right>No</TD><TD class=darkrow1 style="FONT: bold 11px verdana" align=right>TD</TD></TR><TR><TD class=altRow1 align=left><NOBR>Terrence McGee</NOBR></TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>2</TD><TD class=darkrow1 align=right>13</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>11</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>2</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0.0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>2</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0.0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=altRow2 align=left><NOBR>Donte Whitner</NOBR></TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>2</TD><TD class=darkrow1 align=right>12</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>11</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>1</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0.0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0.0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=altRow1 align=left><NOBR>Paul Posluszny</NOBR></TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>2</TD><TD class=darkrow1 align=right>12</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>8</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>4</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0.0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0.0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=altRow2 align=left><NOBR>Ashton Youboty</NOBR></TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>2</TD><TD class=darkrow1 align=right>11</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>10</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>1</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>1.0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0.0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=altRow1 align=left><NOBR>Kyle Williams</NOBR></TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>2</TD><TD class=darkrow1 align=right>8</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>5</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>3</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>1.0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0.0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=altRow2 align=left><NOBR>Kawika Mitchell</NOBR></TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>2</TD><TD class=darkrow1 align=right>7</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>6</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>1</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>1.0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0.0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=altRow1 align=left><NOBR>Jabari Greer</NOBR></TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>2</TD><TD class=darkrow1 align=right>7</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>4</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>3</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0.0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0.0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>1</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=altRow2 align=left><NOBR>Ko Simpson</NOBR></TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>2</TD><TD class=darkrow1 align=right>7</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>5</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>2</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0.0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0.0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=altRow1 align=left><NOBR>Marcus Stroud</NOBR></TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>2</TD><TD class=darkrow1 align=right>6</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>3</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>3</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>2.0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0.0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=altRow2 align=left><NOBR>Aaron Schobel</NOBR></TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>2</TD><TD class=darkrow1 align=right>6</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>6</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>1.0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0.0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=altRow1 align=left><NOBR>Keith Ellison</NOBR></TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>2</TD><TD class=darkrow1 align=right>4</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>2</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>2</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0.0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0.0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=altRow2 align=left><NOBR>Copeland Bryan</NOBR></TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>2</TD><TD class=darkrow1 align=right>3</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>2</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>1</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0.0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0.0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=altRow1 align=left><NOBR>Chris Kelsay</NOBR></TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>2</TD><TD class=darkrow1 align=right>3</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>2</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>1</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0.0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0.0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=altRow2 align=left><NOBR>Bryan Scott</NOBR></TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>2</TD><TD class=darkrow1 align=right>2</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>2</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0.0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0.0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=altRow1 align=left><NOBR>Ryan Denney</NOBR></TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>2</TD><TD class=darkrow1 align=right>1</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>1</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>1.0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0.0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow1 align=right>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=altRow2 align=left><NOBR>Spencer Johnson</NOBR></TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>2</TD><TD class=darkrow1 align=right>1</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>1</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0.0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0.0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD><TD class=altRow2 align=right>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=darkrow1 style="FONT: bold 11px verdana" align=left colSpan=2>Totals</TD><TD class=darkrow1 style="FONT: bold 11px verdana" align=right>103</TD><TD class=darkrow1 style="FONT: bold 11px verdana" align=right>78</TD><TD class=darkrow1 style="FONT: bold 11px verdana" align=right>25</TD><TD class=darkrow1 style="FONT: bold 11px verdana" align=right>7.0</TD><TD class=darkrow1 style="FONT: bold 11px verdana" align=right>2</TD><TD class=darkrow1 style="FONT: bold 11px verdana" align=right>0</TD><TD class=darkrow1 style="FONT: bold 11px verdana" align=right>0.0</TD><TD class=darkrow1 style="FONT: bold 11px verdana" align=right>0</TD><TD class=darkrow1 style="FONT: bold 11px verdana" align=right>1</TD><TD class=darkrow1 style="FONT: bold 11px verdana" align=right>0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Top (http://www.buffalobills.com/games/statscenter.html#top)

Meathead
09-17-2008, 07:40 AM
If Crowell was in the lineup, I bet he would have more than 4 tackles and McGee would have less than 13.
foshiztle my gristle

man if the only thing you looked at were these tackling numbers youd think the bills were getting run all over

interesting

BAM
09-17-2008, 07:43 AM
I've noticed our DB's are playing well off the WR's through the first two games. We must be willing to give up the short stuff and are protecting against the long ball. Could be part of the reason.

don137
09-17-2008, 07:54 AM
Its only two games but it could mean a few things. One, teams are playing catch up and throwing the ball more against Buffalo two, opponents are are not able to establish the run and are throwing more three, the linebacking corp are not shredding their blockers or missing tackles thus causing the secondary to come up and stop the run or four, a combination of the first three. I think it is number four.

yordad
09-17-2008, 08:04 AM
It means we should have extended Crowell. And it means we should transition tag him now that it is basically too late.

Pinkerton Security
09-17-2008, 08:07 AM
it means we often allow underneath passes, and teams are often taking these short dump offs, and our cb's are making the plays.

baalworship
09-17-2008, 09:00 AM
If it's 3rd and 12 because we just got a sack and the opposing team throws a 7 yard pass which Youboty or McGee promptly swallows up that's not a bad thing.

Really, I think teams are forced to pass more because of Stroud.

justasportsfan
09-17-2008, 09:15 AM
teams are passing more against us 69 ATT vs. runs 48 ATT. We also send our cb's to blitz.

ALL D
09-17-2008, 09:21 AM
Run D is real strong this year...

It is there best chance of success...

Wait till Mclovin gets going...

trapezeus
09-17-2008, 09:25 AM
if there was a way to look at how many yards we've given up, then we know where those DB's are making the tackles. i was surprised by this thread and that DB's are our lead tacklers, but if they aren't giving up much yards like another poster said, then we're doing our thing.